Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[ap2345 8,572]

@Chris007 that info about meetings being had is definitely making the rounds this morning. I’ll be shocked if an announcement or outright move isn’t made before the season ends at this point

[KathywithaC 632]

8 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

Ending it immediately would be the smartest thing they could do short of inventing time travel and making a serious hire in the first place.

EDIT: This is IUBB, which means the smart thing won't happen.

What benefit to the program would exist by firing him now? How would that improve the program in the near term, which is the only real impact it would have. Would we be more competitive? Win more games? Serve the interests of the players?

[KathywithaC 632]

10 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Yes as in today. I don't believe it will happen but I believe it is being talked about. Now do I think Dolson is going around the office asking everyone for their opinion? NO of course not but he is talking with some people very close to him

Do you believe those discussions with “some people” only began today?

[VFury 46]

16 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I'm sorry  but not going to argue with Katchy about this but I got a text from someone higher than her last night that said some serious conversations are going on right now at the highest levels about ending this nightmare immediately. 

For the sake of Woodson's legacy, I hope he isn't here when Dusty rolls into town. When he beats them by 20, it'll get very ugly imo.

[Home Jersey 9,128]

Removing Woodson before the next home game is not a basketball decision but a prudent risk management decision based on legitimate concerns about crowd control and physical safety at this point. 

[JSHoosier 20,601]

3 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

What benefit to the program would exist by firing him now? How would that improve the program in the near term, which is the only real impact it would have. Would we be more competitive? Win more games? Serve the interests of the players?

This team isn't going anywhere. It gets a crappy coach out and IU can begin a, hopefully competent this time, coaching search. Also keeps the crowd from getting more toxic.

[AnotherSznOnTheBrink 285]

2 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

What benefit to the program would exist by firing him now? How would that improve the program in the near term, which is the only real impact it would have. Would we be more competitive? Win more games? Serve the interests of the players?

I guess it just depends on how weighted fan sentiment is at this stage for the administration. That’s the biggest positive. Every weighs these things differently. 

[maharkn 1,800]

12 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

This!  He needs to go now!  His attitude and ego are a cancer to the university and basketball program and he could do much damage by the end of the year 

I really don't care if they let the night janitor take over. Just need to show possible candiates that we are serious and the job is open now.

[DoctorP 1,318]

If it wasn’t clear before, it’s clear now that Cathy never had any sources within the department. Troll

[Chris007 46,496]

1 minute ago, VFury said:

For the sake of Woodson's legacy, I hope he isn't here when Dusty rolls into town. When he beats them by 20, it'll get very ugly imo.

You are 100% correct. 

[AnotherSznOnTheBrink 285]

I still think announcing a planned retirement at the end of the year is the cleanest way out of this. 

[AZ Hoosier 7,946]

2 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

What benefit to the program would exist by firing him now? How would that improve the program in the near term, which is the only real impact it would have. Would we be more competitive? Win more games? Serve the interests of the players?

For starters, it would convey to the fanbase that somebody at Indiana gives a damn about the state of Indiana basketball. It would start the "healing" process within the fanbase.

[Chris007 46,496]

2 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

Do you believe those discussions with “some people” only began today?

Well when you only show up once in a blue moon you miss a lot of info. I've detailed all the talks that have taken place since the Bahamas. 

[KathywithaC 632]

1 minute ago, JSHoosier said:

This team isn't going anywhere. It gets a crappy coach out and IU can begin a, hopefully competent this time, coaching search.

Looking for a “competent” replacement won’t be inhibited by a six or seven week gap in time. 

[Pagoda 1,134]

32 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

They aren’t “my guys” any more than they’re “your guys”. But I do understand the visceral reactions here. We haven’t had an elite program for several decades, and that’s due to a bunch of people in positions of leadership who were each convinced they knew what they were doing. Way too many cooks who can’t and couldn’t boil water.

Looking at some of your old quotes, they're your guys.

"You think most of those people [previous ADs] know more about basketball than Quinn?  Uh, no. Not even close. Most of them hadn’t even been ADs before we hired them."

"Crean was no better than Woodson as a coach and he squandered far more talented teams than MW has been able to assemble."

"Woodson was as ready as Miller, if not more so."

 

[TheWatShot 14,344]

KathwithaC is the textbook ivory tower fan who simply doesn't grasp the realities of what we're all seeing. 

[Trish 11,856]

I agree with the above. The cleanest way out of this complete train wreck is to announce his retirement within the next two weeks. You don’t want to wait too long, let the fans give him his non deserved flowers. 

[DoctorP 1,318]

5 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

For starters, it would convey to the fanbase that somebody at Indiana gives a damn about the state of Indiana basketball. It would start the "healing" process within the fanbase.

Cathy doesn’t care about, or even respect, the fanbase. You see how she comes in here and talks down to everyone. 
She thinks we’ll continue to eat the **** being fed to us and be happy about it.
This fanbase is top tier in terms of its knowledge about and love for basketball. 
We have the most expensive roster in the conference and are getting blown out once a week. 
 

We see the developmental and scheme failures game after game, year after year. 
 

Relieving Woodson of his duties soon can begin to repair the program’s relationship with the one thing it still has going for it: us. Last night was incredibly toxic. It was warranted. End this soon—or at least make it public it’s ending at seasons end. 

[KathywithaC 632]

3 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

For starters, it would convey to the fanbase that somebody at Indiana gives a damn about the state of Indiana basketball. It would start the "healing" process within the fanbase.

I agree, it would provide a visceral solution for some, but it wouldn’t impact the long term health of the program, which should be the objective.

[Kentuckysucks 2,472]

1 minute ago, KathywithaC said:

Looking for a “competent” replacement won’t be inhibited by a six or seven week gap in time. 

There is no point in keeping him employed for another day.  There are so many bad things that could go wrong the longer he’s employed.