Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[TadQueasy 890]

22 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Screen names are usually not meant to be taken literally chief. He’s not claiming to be a doctor and I’m not actually an IU Home Jersey btw

I am a Tad Queasy tho!  

[AH1971 1,650]

7 minutes ago, DoctorP said:

I picked Muss on purpose. This past weekend after they beat Illinois you said he’s “a really good coach”. Now when he’s brought up as a Woody replacement, his style is suddenly unsustainable. 

You continue to be heavily biased and disingenuous 

He's a really good coach from an X's and O's standpoint. He's also a maniac. His preference to retool in the portal every single season isn't sustainable at a job like Indiana where expectations are sky high every single season. He was shot out of a cannon at Arkansas and crashed and burned even faster. 

X's and O's are a fraction of what it takes to be successful here...but you knew that. 

[SamIam 677]

Woody is gone, the admin isn't gonna make the call today so I'm not wasting anymore time on it.

In my opinion we should all be able to agree Dusty is number one. I've been doing laps for him on here for a year, you can check my posts about his record at FAU. I was told he was unproven, but I am glad Coach Cignetti has ended the debate once and for all. If you are a good coach, you are a good coach. If you are going to bring up Archie's record, you might as well save the characters and just say you don't know ball.

Dusty is the energetic program leader that Pat Kelsey is with the X and O proficiency of Mark Pope. MAKE HIM SAY NO. He is the best option. Young, energetic, modern. He is not only being considered because he is "in the family" like Woodson, instead his connection to IU is maybe the only reason he would take a call from any other school. His buyout is incredibly low, but those conversations need to be backchannelled right now so he doesn’t take the raise that will be offered as soon as UM senses us sniffing around. My impression is that he would take the call. It’s a unique opportunity for IU and I hope they don’t screw it up and that the door isn't closed. 

Some of the other names here don’t really make sense

• Pearl isn't leaving, would be expensive and I don’t like him anyway, but if he takes the call, sure. 
• I don’t want Beard because beating your gf is a no-go for me, but I can promise you that is a non-starter for the admin, so we should stop wasting time on him. FYI, the cops dropped the case because the fiancé declined to cooperate, but the police report is jarring enough (did she fake the bite marks?). It speaks poorly on many of you to carry water for this man as the role model for our players. 
• Stevens isn't going to come but sure send a call out, fun to dream about though
• Oats wants to go midwest apparently, not my favorite coach and would be uber uber expensive but would no doubt be good

Other options are:

• McCollum. I don’t want to hear about "unproven" anymore. If anyone compares someone to Archie I might melt down. If you can coach you can coach. There have been strong rumors that McC is an ******* and that stopped him from reaching D1 until now but if he wins who cares.
• Luke Murray: Hurley sucked without him, his offense is a dream, and Bill would come to our games! Obviously any asst. is a risk though.
• Shrewsberry/Shertz: TOUGH sell to the fanbase, I get it. But you have to understand that Shrews has built a roster without the portal, the old fashioned way and his best player missed half their games so far. I promise they will round into form. Probably not quite good enough for IU though. Same thing with Shertz. Great coach but probably not flashy enough in year one at SLU. 

Dusty checks literally every box. Get it done or regret that we didn't for the next 25 years. 

[IUHoosierJoe 1,304]

8 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

I came here to discuss the process and mindset within the University on matters such as this, and the “Fire Woodson” crowd didn’t care for that. The mistake I made was suggesting their reactions were emotional, which elicited an extremely emotional response from the unemotional and rational posters whom I called “emotional”.

Just curious who you think is on Dolson’s candidate list.  

[Chris007 46,542]

21 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

I don’t my dad does.  Brad was willing to take the job but Tracy and the kids weren’t ready to move yet.  And Brad was happy in Boston.  It’s not like he was miserable or anything and willing to fight his family but coaching at IU has been a dream of his.  
 

This is where Whitten could come in handy.  Send her to Boston and stroke that massive ego Tracy apparently has.  Give her what she wants.  Let her be the queen of Bloomington for the next 20 years or whatever.  

I think there is another way to get to Brad and I think Scott is using it genuinely. Tracy will play a big part but not the whole part

[realTomCrean 1,688]

11 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

I came here to discuss the process and mindset within the University on matters such as this, and the “Fire Woodson” crowd didn’t care for that. The mistake I made was suggesting their reactions were emotional, which elicited an extremely emotional response from the unemotional and rational posters whom I called “emotional”.

The "Fire Woodson crowd" is every single IU fan I know. Even my Purdue and UK friends are feeling bad for IUBB fans. All time low, Clown - of course we're emotional. This **** is embarrassing 

[Kentuckysucks 2,475]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

I think there is another way to get to Brad and I think Scott is using it genuinely. Tracy will play a big part but not the whole part

His son could play for him next year.

[Napleshoosier 10,437]

Who’s putting the for sale sign in his front yard?  Lol. Leal?

[spe317 612]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think there is another way to get to Brad and I think Scott is using it genuinely. Tracy will play a big part but not the whole part

Yes but that’s called kidnapping and extortion. 

[Chris007 46,542]

1 minute ago, Kentuckysucks said:

His son could play for him next year.

That is true but not where I was going. 

[southsidehoosier 5,068]

 

[mdiu28 1,903]

18 minutes ago, SamIam said:

Woody is gone, the admin isn't gonna make the call today so I'm not wasting anymore time on it.

In my opinion we should all be able to agree Dusty is number one. I've been doing laps for him on here for a year, you can check my posts about his record at FAU. I was told he was unproven, but I am glad Coach Cignetti has ended the debate once and for all. If you are a good coach, you are a good coach. If you are going to bring up Archie's record, you might as well save the characters and just say you don't know ball.

Dusty is the energetic program leader that Pat Kelsey is with the X and O proficiency of Mark Pope. MAKE HIM SAY NO. He is the best option. Young, energetic, modern. He is not only being considered because he is "in the family" like Woodson, instead his connection to IU is maybe the only reason he would take a call from any other school. His buyout is incredibly low, but those conversations need to be backchannelled right now so he doesn’t take the raise that will be offered as soon as UM senses us sniffing around. My impression is that he would take the call. It’s a unique opportunity for IU and I hope they don’t screw it up and that the door isn't closed. 

Some of the other names here don’t really make sense

• Pearl isn't leaving, would be expensive and I don’t like him anyway, but if he takes the call, sure. 
• I don’t want Beard because beating your gf is a no-go for me, but I can promise you that is a non-starter for the admin, so we should stop wasting time on him. FYI, the cops dropped the case because the fiancé declined to cooperate, but the police report is jarring enough (did she fake the bite marks?). It speaks poorly on many of you to carry water for this man as the role model for our players. 
• Stevens isn't going to come but sure send a call out, fun to dream about though
• Oats wants to go midwest apparently, not my favorite coach and would be uber uber expensive but would no doubt be good

Other options are:

• McCollum. I don’t want to hear about "unproven" anymore. If anyone compares someone to Archie I might melt down. If you can coach you can coach. There have been strong rumors that McC is an ******* and that stopped him from reaching D1 until now but if he wins who cares.
• Luke Murray: Hurley sucked without him, his offense is a dream, and Bill would come to our games! Obviously any asst. is a risk though.
• Shrewsberry/Shertz: TOUGH sell to the fanbase, I get it. But you have to understand that Shrews has built a roster without the portal, the old fashioned way and his best player missed half their games so far. I promise they will round into form. Probably not quite good enough for IU though. Same thing with Shertz. Great coach but probably not flashy enough in year one at SLU. 

Dusty checks literally every box. Get it done or regret that we didn't for the next 25 years. 

Do people really think he'd leave Michigan after a single year? I don't. 

Yeah he has a connection here but if you ask me - he would not have taken the Michigan job, a job in conference, only to bolt for IU that quickly. He would've waited for IU to open up. 

This isn't Lane Kiffin we're talkin' about here. 

[Alford Bailey 12,421]

The Bozich article held nothing back. Hard hitting IMO. I think there is a chance Woodson could be gone before the end of the season if the 25 point losses continue. Personally I’m not giving these players a pass. They’ve been paid well and suck.

[Chris007 46,542]

1 minute ago, mdiu28 said:

Do people really think he'd leave Michigan after a single year? I don't. 

Yeah he has a connection here but if you ask me - he would not have taken the Michigan job, a job in conference, only to bolt for IU that quickly. He would've waited for IU to open up. 

It's a good question and one no one really knows. What we do know is that he put the buyout low for his first season in his contract negotiations and Louisville said no, Michigan said yes. Why did he do that?

Why was he in Bloomington after the final four last year? To see old family and friends? To talk to Dolson and be told that Scott's hands are tied this year but he's retiring Mike after the 25 season? I don't know

[OKHOOSIER 3,139]

14 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think there is another way to get to Brad and I think Scott is using it genuinely. Tracy will play a big part but not the whole part

Brinks truck? Keys to the city of Indianapolis? Lifetime supply of Mother Bear’s? 

[MikeRoberts 7,233]

13 minutes ago, Napleshoosier said:

Who’s putting the for sale sign in his front yard?  Lol. Leal?

You would think Leal would want Woody fired so could sell his house

[AH1971 1,650]

20 minutes ago, SamIam said:

Woody is gone, the admin isn't gonna make the call today so I'm not wasting anymore time on it.

In my opinion we should all be able to agree Dusty is number one. I've been doing laps for him on here for a year, you can check my posts about his record at FAU. I was told he was unproven, but I am glad Coach Cignetti has ended the debate once and for all. If you are a good coach, you are a good coach. If you are going to bring up Archie's record, you might as well save the characters and just say you don't know ball.

Dusty is the energetic program leader that Pat Kelsey is with the X and O proficiency of Mark Pope. MAKE HIM SAY NO. He is the best option. Young, energetic, modern. He is not only being considered because he is "in the family" like Woodson, instead his connection to IU is maybe the only reason he would take a call from any other school. His buyout is incredibly low, but those conversations need to be backchannelled right now so he doesn’t take the raise that will be offered as soon as UM senses us sniffing around. My impression is that he would take the call. It’s a unique opportunity for IU and I hope they don’t screw it up and that the door isn't closed. 

Some of the other names here don’t really make sense

• Pearl isn't leaving, would be expensive and I don’t like him anyway, but if he takes the call, sure. 
• I don’t want Beard because beating your gf is a no-go for me, but I can promise you that is a non-starter for the admin, so we should stop wasting time on him. FYI, the cops dropped the case because the fiancé declined to cooperate, but the police report is jarring enough (did she fake the bite marks?). It speaks poorly on many of you to carry water for this man as the role model for our players. 
• Stevens isn't going to come but sure send a call out, fun to dream about though
• Oats wants to go midwest apparently, not my favorite coach and would be uber uber expensive but would no doubt be good

Other options are:

• McCollum. I don’t want to hear about "unproven" anymore. If anyone compares someone to Archie I might melt down. If you can coach you can coach. There have been strong rumors that McC is an ******* and that stopped him from reaching D1 until now but if he wins who cares.
• Luke Murray: Hurley sucked without him, his offense is a dream, and Bill would come to our games! Obviously any asst. is a risk though.
• Shrewsberry/Shertz: TOUGH sell to the fanbase, I get it. But you have to understand that Shrews has built a roster without the portal, the old fashioned way and his best player missed half their games so far. I promise they will round into form. Probably not quite good enough for IU though. Same thing with Shertz. Great coach but probably not flashy enough in year one at SLU. 

Dusty checks literally every box. Get it done or regret that we didn't for the next 25 years. 

The concerns with guys like May and McCollum have very little to do with X's and O's. 

[mdiu28 1,903]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

 It's a good question and one no one really knows. What we do know is that he put the buyout low for his first season in his contract negotiations and Louisville said no, Michigan said yes. Why did he do that?

 Why was he in Bloomington after the final four last year? To see old family and friends? To talk to Dolson and be told that Scott's hands are tied this year but he's retiring Mike after the 25 season? I don't know

I did not know those two things I bolded. 

Very interesting, indeed. 

[tyappleg 3,404]

17 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think there is another way to get to Brad and I think Scott is using it genuinely. Tracy will play a big part but not the whole part

The Simon's are buying the Boston Celtics and will run him out of town straight to Bloomington. 

[AZ Hoosier 7,952]

46 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Screen names are usually not meant to be taken literally chief. He’s not claiming to be a doctor and I’m not actually an IU Home Jersey btw

And maybe, just maybe, she's neither "Kathy" or "with a C". :D