(2024) - PG Boogie Fland to Kentucky

[Banksyrules 4,463]

Just now, Hornsby said:

This strategy may work for elite programs but we currently are not elite. Now we scramble in the spring to fill a roster. Imo that is not a recipe for building long term success. They may need to rethink their recruiting strategy

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I don’t think so. This is the new age of NIL. I like aiming for the fences early then if it doesn’t work we can be more balanced later.  This year will be a good one for us. 

[Hoosier987 1,054]

9 minutes ago, realTomCrean said:

That’s been his strength in his IU tenure. No doom and gloom here. 3* kids were passing on IU a few years ago under Archie 

Im not here to say the Archie days were great….because they were far from it, but let’s not pretend that a bunch of 3 star kids were passing on us …because they weren’t. Archie’s first class was a top 10 class in the country. He had a 5 star (depending on who your recruiting services were) in each of his 3 off season classes….Romeo, TJD and Lander (who was regarded as the Boogie Fland in his class, before reclassifying). Lastly, “Mr. Basketball” of the state went to IU for 3 straight years. We didn’t have a bunch of 3 stars passing on IU. Archie was recruiting the State far better than his predecessor.

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33 minutes ago, bigrod said:

Lots of doom and gloom here today. We just have to hope that Cupps gets some good experience this year and is ready to start next year. I think (hope) he is going to surprise a lot of people. We are still tending in the right direction, and any reasonable person knew it wasn't going to happen overnight. I always felt like the third year for a new coach is a good tell for the future. Let's hope we keep building and maybe finish better than expectations. If that happens, a couple of these players get drafted, and maybe someone makes a nice jump, I think we're in good shape for the Spring.

Yes on Cupps! He's a 4 year guy who will only get better! Remember how we all disliked Aaron Craft, same type of player but better! Craft played in a FF. You need glue guys and all 5 stars just doesn't get it done. Have to have a mix of both IMO.

[JSHoosier 19,744]

I like that we went big, we need to be stacking this kind of talent to reach the level we should expect.  The problem is they put all the eggs in the one basket and now the backup plan is hoping for Spring. The backup options we could've had are no longer considering IU.

You don't want to be in a position where you're counting on a good Spring, but we are and that's at least partly self inflicted.

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Announcement for KY on same day as IU's Hoosier Hysteria.....slap. That's a GFY moment IMO.

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9 hours ago, JSHoosier said:

Rankings aren't everything but are a pretty good guide.  Players ranked where Cupps are aren't typically ready day 1, they need time to adjust and develop for the college game and have bigger roles as upperclassmen.  There's nothing wrong with that and you need those kinds of players, but to win at the level we should expect you also needs guards like Fland.

It's a good thing Cupps has a year behind Johnson to get ready to take over the team.

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Just now, Schreckbagger said:

Announcement for KY on same day as IU's Hoosier Hysteria.....slap. That's a GFY moment IMO.

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Could just be a coincidence.  IU has been largely irrelevant his entire life so may not even realize the IU/pUKe rivalry was a thing.

[Stuhoo 79,391]

FWIW

Hoosier Hysteria is a super-fun couple of hours to signify that things are underway, but it is no way a big deal or in any way susceptible to being lessened by the decision of a recruit for a year from now.

[Artie86 1,840]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

FWIW

Hoosier Hysteria is a super-fun couple of hours to signify that things are underway, but it is no way a big deal or in any way susceptible to being lessened by a recruit for next year.

It is a big deal just for the fact that it is the beginning of IU Basketball season..... I know what you are saying though. This could have been a great platform or exclamation point to this recruitment.....

[Artie86 1,840]

Guys, I just can't get past the fact why Boogie would choose Cal over a genuine, down to earth, (consistently trending up on the recruiting trail) coach like Coach Woodson and instead choose Cal. I know all kids are different and want see things differently than others. This one is just a head scratcher to me. I can only think of the obvious that KY's wins and rankings carry weight...JMO

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52 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

The only issue I’ve got is that sometimes “a bird in the hand is greater than 2 in the bush” and to me IU has passed over good players the last couple cycles that could’ve helped to program to focus on 1 or 2 guys and then missed. It’s not a recipe for success. To me get the guys that you can get and then swing for the fences. Don’t swing for the fence and then miss out all together. It’s a good thing they landed Liam but a one man class isn’t going to cut it with the roster overhaul IU might face next year. 

Targeting top guys is a good strategy because it sets up IU in the transfer portal.  If it doesn't work out for Boogie (and others) at their initial school, IU already has a relationship.  We'll just have to live with a decent number of misses. UK and KU are always going to be hard to beat because of the success their players have had (are having) in the NBA. IU has mostly produced role players outside of OG. 

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10 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

Guys, I just can't get past the fact why Boogie would choose Cal over a genuine, down to earth, (consistently trending up on the recruiting trail) coach like Coach Woodson and instead choose Cal. I know all kids are different and want see things differently than others. This one is just a head scratcher to me. I can only think of the obvious that KY's wins and rankings carry weight...JMO

I and others have basically said it before in this thread, but here is Calipari's very effective sell:

• UK has NIL and facilities that at least equal the best of the best.
• UK plays in the very successful, high pace, NBA-style SEC.
• It's not just UK, it's the combination of UK and Calipari that has a proven, long-term record of developing top guards into successful NBA players:
  • Fox
  • Wall
  • Bledsoe
  • Murray
  • Knight
  • Booker
  • Gilgeous Alexander
  • Maxey
  • Wallace
• Whether they won or lost at UK, their NBA outcome ranged from pretty good to incredible. And every one of those players basically has stayed out of trouble.
• The guards that played for Calipari are glad they did. IU fans may think he's slimy and unlikeable, but his players say they're good with him.

[HinnyHoosier 4,724]

Let's not assume this staff doesn't have a contingency strategy on the table. Let's also not assume said strategy applies only to this class. 

Woody & Co has performed above and beyond expectations in my opinion, and enough so that it's safe to assert they aren't a fluke.

 

As far as pUKe is concerned, pressure's on Cal. Take the recruit, see what you can (or in his case, can't) do with that talent in terms of program success. He's proven nothing more than an overall inability to succeed with the highest level of recruiting in the last 14 years along with a fear of playing Indiana for nearly the duration of his tenure there. 

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I also agree I think people are sleeping on Gabe. I wanted Boogie badly but landing Liam was #1 for me. If we do snag Queen thats even better but a top portal PG might be the best bet to fuse the freshman with veterans in which it takes to win a championship.

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2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

They also have Robert Dillingham who will most likely be back next year, plus Jasper Johnson if he reclassifies, and Boogie. 

I'd be surprised if Dillingham returned. He seems like a kid ready to leave as a YouTube sensation.

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17 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said:

Targeting top guys is a good strategy because it sets up IU in the transfer portal.  If it doesn't work out for Boogie (and others) at their initial school, IU already has a relationship.  We'll just have to live with a decent number of misses. UK and KU are always going to be hard to beat because of the success their players have had (are having) in the NBA. IU has mostly produced role players outside of OG. 

I'm sorry but there's no way I'm touching Boogie Fland down the road if he does in fact spurn us for Kentucky this afternoon. Once he commits, that ship will have sailed. 

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1 minute ago, IndyResident16 said:

I'm sorry but there's no way I'm touching Boogie Fland down the road if he does in fact spurn us for Kentucky this afternoon. Once he commits, that ship will have sailed. 

No need to cut off your nose just to spite your face... 

[ap2345 7,338]

5 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said:

I'm sorry but there's no way I'm touching Boogie Fland down the road if he does in fact spurn us for Kentucky this afternoon. Once he commits, that ship will have sailed. 

Good thing that you aren’t running the program then. That’s just not the way to do things in todays college basketball.

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Just now, ap2345 said:

Good thing that you aren’t running the program then. That’s just not the way to do things in todays college basketball.

Never said I was. Don't see the staff reconnecting with a former recruit who spurned them for a rival. 

That's just me though, would hope CMW and co have a little dignity. 

[HoosierX 1,521]

11 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said:

I'm sorry but there's no way I'm touching Boogie Fland down the road if he does in fact spurn us for Kentucky this afternoon. Once he commits, that ship will have sailed. 

Something tells me that you wouldn't have much of a say in the matter.