(2024) - PG Boogie Fland to Kentucky

[realTomCrean]

https://x.com/kentuckyf34638/status/1715192701186875734?s=46&t=KBMjZuJJTG50JspPvw-4aA

[Hornsby]

Yeah it's tough to know that we brought in so many guys for visits for the 24 class and we might just walk away with Liam. If I remember correctly we had more 4 and 5-star visits than ever before. That's rough

Rabjohns was bragging about how we were listed with more top 50 player then ever a few months ago. As I said at the time it means nothing if you don't get them. And we only got one. For some reason we cannot seem to close the deal in the fall.

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[Banksyrules]

49 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Something about this recruitment hurts me a little more than others. I guess because he seemed like such a good fit. I would say well the sun is still going to come up but it's cloudy out. I'm glad Queen isn't deciding for a little bit, this recruitment seems to take the wind out of us. Need a TV timeout to regroup. 

I hurt for the kid. I think he seems like a nice kid and wants to do what’s best. Cal is a scumbag and you know he’s not going to get the best coaching. This is Brooks 2.0. 

[Hornsby]

I’ll say this to about Cal. He is in desperation mode so who knows what he sold Boogie on in this recruitment. 

He is 57-36 his last three seasons so maybe if he has a bad year he gets canned. Wh knows

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[bigrod]

Lots of doom and gloom here today. We just have to hope that Cupps gets some good experience this year and is ready to start next year. I think (hope) he is going to surprise a lot of people. We are still tending in the right direction, and any reasonable person knew it wasn't going to happen overnight. I always felt like the third year for a new coach is a good tell for the future. Let's hope we keep building and maybe finish better than expectations. If that happens, a couple of these players get drafted, and maybe someone makes a nice jump, I think we're in good shape for the Spring.

[Uspshoosier]

12 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Yeah it's tough to know that we brought in so many guys for visits for the 24 class and we might just walk away with Liam. If I remember correctly we had more 4 and 5-star visits than ever before. That's rough

Staff had the option of making some of the other kids higher priorities but chose to go for the top end talent.  Seems like their gamble didn’t pay off.  That’s a whole  other argument on what the staff should have or could have done.    Can’t worry about that now they just have to deal with the hand dealt to them and continue to work.    They definitely are going to be able to offer someone a lot of PT at the lead guard position 

[ap2345]

15 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Yeah it's tough to know that we brought in so many guys for visits for the 24 class and we might just walk away with Liam. If I remember correctly we had more 4 and 5-star visits than ever before. That's rough

The only issue I’ve got is that sometimes “a bird in the hand is greater than 2 in the bush” and to me IU has passed over good players the last couple cycles that could’ve helped to program to focus on 1 or 2 guys and then missed. It’s not a recipe for success. To me get the guys that you can get and then swing for the fences. Don’t swing for the fence and then miss out all together. It’s a good thing they landed Liam but a one man class isn’t going to cut it with the roster overhaul IU might face next year. 

[Uspshoosier]

12 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Rabjohns was bragging about how we were listed with more top 50 player then ever a few months ago. As I said at the time it means nothing if you don't get them. And we only got one. For some reason we cannot seem to close the deal in the fall.

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That’s partly self inflicted.  Probably also the first time in awhile that an IU staff openly moved on or prioritized higher ranked kids then some other top 50 kids they had a real good chance at landing if they would of went all in 

[Joe_hoopsier]

11 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

I hurt for the kid. I think he seems like a nice kid and wants to do what’s best. Cal is a scumbag and you know he’s not going to get the best coaching. This is Brooks 2.0. 

This is just me, that 10 year old kid, holding out all hope for that pony to be under the Christmas tree. This scenario would cold karma..;

 

Boogie leaked some info to pUKe and only pUKe. Then "SOMEHOW" that info gets leaked all over the CBB world. Boogie see's this happen and has a WTF moment, you just stole my day that I have building to for years. FU, I'm a Hoosier.

 

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE be a pony, not a snake. :)

 

[Hornsby]

Staff had the option of making some of the other kids higher priorities but chose to go for the top end talent.  Seems like their gamble didn’t pay off.  That’s a whole  other argument on what the staff should have or could have done.    Can’t worry about that now they just have to deal with the hand dealt to them and continue to work.    They definitely are going to be able to offer someone a lot of PT at the lead guard position 

High risk high reward strategy. Woodson is going to have to recruit his behind off this spring may need up to five guys.

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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

Chris just say Trilly is wrong so I can sleep tonight 

If you can't sleep based on a kid not choosing IU, I'll pray for you

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[realTomCrean]

4 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

High risk high reward strategy. Woodson is going to have to recruit his behind off this spring may need up to five guys.

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That’s been his strength in his IU tenure. No doom and gloom here. 3* kids were passing on IU a few years ago under Archie 

[realTomCrean]

Just now, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

If you can't sleep based on a kid not choosing IU, I'll pray for you

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Oh my gosh it was a joke. Get on with yourself 

[Hornsby]

The only issue I’ve got is that sometimes “a bird in the hand is greater than 2 in the bush” and to me IU has passed over good players the last couple cycles that could’ve helped to program to focus on 1 or 2 guys and then missed. It’s not a recipe for success. To me get the guys that you can get and then swing for the fences. Don’t swing for the fence and then miss out all together. It’s a good thing they landed Liam but a one man class isn’t going to cut it with the roster overhaul IU might face next year. 

This strategy may work for elite programs but we currently are not elite. Now we scramble in the spring to fill a roster. Imo that is not a recipe for building long term success. They may need to rethink their recruiting strategy

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[ronzo4IU]

33 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think that's why you see more of the Tipton edits on social media and not as many press conferences anymore. 

Well, that would make more sense when you have all these social media glory hounds who can’t control themselves and steal the thunder away from a teenager.

[Banksyrules]

Just now, Hornsby said:

This strategy may work for elite programs but we currently are not elite. Now we scramble in the spring to fill a roster. Imo that is not a recipe for building long term success. They may need to rethink their recruiting strategy

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I don’t think so. This is the new age of NIL. I like aiming for the fences early then if it doesn’t work we can be more balanced later.  This year will be a good one for us. 

[Hoosier987]

9 minutes ago, realTomCrean said:

That’s been his strength in his IU tenure. No doom and gloom here. 3* kids were passing on IU a few years ago under Archie 

Im not here to say the Archie days were great….because they were far from it, but let’s not pretend that a bunch of 3 star kids were passing on us …because they weren’t. Archie’s first class was a top 10 class in the country. He had a 5 star (depending on who your recruiting services were) in each of his 3 off season classes….Romeo, TJD and Lander (who was regarded as the Boogie Fland in his class, before reclassifying). Lastly, “Mr. Basketball” of the state went to IU for 3 straight years. We didn’t have a bunch of 3 stars passing on IU. Archie was recruiting the State far better than his predecessor.

[OldBuddy67]

33 minutes ago, bigrod said:

Lots of doom and gloom here today. We just have to hope that Cupps gets some good experience this year and is ready to start next year. I think (hope) he is going to surprise a lot of people. We are still tending in the right direction, and any reasonable person knew it wasn't going to happen overnight. I always felt like the third year for a new coach is a good tell for the future. Let's hope we keep building and maybe finish better than expectations. If that happens, a couple of these players get drafted, and maybe someone makes a nice jump, I think we're in good shape for the Spring.

Yes on Cupps! He's a 4 year guy who will only get better! Remember how we all disliked Aaron Craft, same type of player but better! Craft played in a FF. You need glue guys and all 5 stars just doesn't get it done. Have to have a mix of both IMO.

[JSHoosier]

I like that we went big, we need to be stacking this kind of talent to reach the level we should expect.  The problem is they put all the eggs in the one basket and now the backup plan is hoping for Spring. The backup options we could've had are no longer considering IU.

You don't want to be in a position where you're counting on a good Spring, but we are and that's at least partly self inflicted.

[go iu bb]

9 hours ago, JSHoosier said:

Rankings aren't everything but are a pretty good guide.  Players ranked where Cupps are aren't typically ready day 1, they need time to adjust and develop for the college game and have bigger roles as upperclassmen.  There's nothing wrong with that and you need those kinds of players, but to win at the level we should expect you also needs guards like Fland.

It's a good thing Cupps has a year behind Johnson to get ready to take over the team.