General Coach Candidate News

[spe317]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

Not a thing. I think some people just try to push it too much. I want everyone to do whatever they want. 

Chris is a confirmed anarchist. Heard it here first. 

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, Hornsby said:

Beard beats his girlfriend- out
Drew is too religious- out

We are covering every end of the spectrum now. I guess we are looking for an occasional church going but maybe only goes on holidays.

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Don't forget the part Nothing about his coaching bothers me. But that doesn't fit the narrative 

[IU Prof]

44 minutes ago, Trish said:

I just don’t buy the Drew talk. Yes, Big Ten money is different, but Baylor has great NIL and is a basketball school. He’s lived in Waco since 2003, has a brand new arena to play in as well. He hasn’t accepted any other job but would listen to Indiana because he grew up there? I don’t buy it.

 

Yes you can argue the Stevens talk is similar, however, Stevens isn’t a coach currently. Coaches don’t just quit coaching, he’ll be a coach again somewhere. He has the itch to coach again.  

Not saying it'll be Drew, but the issue isn't just NIL, it's revenue-share in a post-House settlement world. Big 10 schools are better positioned than Big XII schools to pay athletes the full allowable amount of revenue share. So many Big XII schools may soon find themselves at a monetary disadvantage in recruiting aside from NIL.

And then add in the fact that IU had suggested it'll not only pay the full allowable revenue share amount, but will allocate a higher percentage of those funds to hoops than most schools, and IU may soon be in a particularly favorable position compared to most other programs.

Whether that's enough to get Drew to move is another matter. But there are reasons to think that the IU job might be especially appealing now, even in ways that might not have been the case for the UK opening last year given the timing of the House settlement.

[MikeRoberts]

Just now, spe317 said:

Chris is a confirmed anarchist. Heard it here first. 

Atheist?

[HoosierInParadise]

Isn't tony Bennett super religious. Seems we are just looking for any reason now to disqualify good coaches so we can hire a turgeon type in the end.

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It has been well documented that Turgeon is left-handed. We must not hire a left-handed coach. They must be eliminated from the candidate list. There is just something about left-handed coaches.....

[Artie86]

Just now, Scotty R said:

What is wrong with being religious 

Nothing at all. I think some may fear that it will be/might be pushed within the program and be a turn off. jmo

[HoosierAloha]

2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

A few people who are the money behind this have places there. I have heard Fuzzy Zoeller name more this year than any other year. Maybe he's the Zoeller and not Cody Zeller.

I'm sure it's rather common knowledge but Fuzzy and Ned are pretty close "buds"

 

[Uspshoosier]

When the dust settles and a coach is hired some on here might be disappointed with the hire and be let down however I promise you that the sun will come up the next day and after processing the hire everyone will be back on here hoping for the best and ready for this program to be turned around.    

[Hovadipo]

6 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

That part of Tom Allen was a major bonus

Until it got in the way of hiring good coaches and instead only hiring people that thought like him. Hopefully he and Drew differ there.

[Chris007]

Just now, HoosierAloha said:

I'm sure it's rather common knowledge but Fuzzy and Ned are pretty close "buds"

 

Yes, I thought so. I just remember hearing Ned's name a lot in the past searches but not Fuzzy's. This time Fuzzy name has popped up more and Andy Mohr. I haven't seen it but I hear Fuzzy has a really nice place on Marco Island. 

[spe317]

1 minute ago, MikeRoberts said:

Atheist?

Unsure if this is purple font or not because mine was. 
 

Chris said he wants everyone to do what they want —-> anarchy. 
 

And if Chris is an atheist, I neither know nor care. Don’t care if he’s Christian, Sikh, Taoist, Agnostic, or Muslim. As long as he’s not Mormon…(I’m one) it’s a joke. 
 

let’s get back to tracking flights and hacking Dolson’s phone. Anyone heard anything about a new GM?

[CSP]

Just now, Hovadipo said:

Until it got in the way of hiring good coaches and instead only hiring people that thought like him. Hopefully he and Drew differ there.

hard to work with people you don't trust to begin with

[iubb]

10 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

What is wrong with being religious 

Nothing..

There is being religious, and then BEING RELIGIOUS, to the point where you try to push it onto the players/ staff etc...

 

Thats where this becomes an issue (especially with recruits) because some may find that offputting especially since there are many flavors of religion (Judaism, Islam, etc)

 

I give zero ***** about the religion/beliefs of our coach...  I just dont want them to push it on the players...

The same goes for political beliefs...  

 

 

 

[PartyintheVillas]

7 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Beard beats his girlfriend- out
Drew is too religious- out

We are covering every end of the spectrum now. I guess we are looking for an occasional church going but maybe only goes on holidays.

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Being heavily involved with religion definitely doesn't equal being morally good. I think thats one distinction some of us are kind of saying. Another is that pushing a specific flavor of religion onto others via peer pressure or team culture is not in line with the university's mission. If Drew is personally very religious, that's his choice and I support his freedom of choice. If he requires or influences the team unduly in anyway to follow his religious beliefs, then that's a problem. I have no idea if that's the case, just the arguments I'm seeing. The guy can coach though for sure.

[CSP]

Just now, PartyintheVillas said:

Being heavily involved with religion definitely doesn't equal being morally good. I think thats one distinction some of us are kind of saying. Another is that pushing a specific flavor of religion onto others via peer pressure or team culture is not in line with the university's mission.

He wins. Idgaf

[Ctf9]

Something I’ve been wondering about the revenue sharing: if IU is committed to giving such a big slice to men’s hoops, how will this affect women’s hoops and football? IU is nationally competitive in so many sports, too. Does anyone know how Cignetti or others feel about this? 

[PartyintheVillas]

1 minute ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

He wins. Idgaf

If he was a satanist and advocates human sacrifices and wins are you good with that?

[AZ Hoosier]

13 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Dolson should have a pretty good idea on whether or not he wants to take that risk after the Tom Allen era. Drew and Allen aren't much different, if they are at all, in this way.

LEO, redux

[Stuhoo]

From my own experience, this is where superior managers and leaders can get it right or get it very wrong.

Being very religious and devout is absolutely fine. Having staff (or in this case players) that are very religious or devout is absolutely fine. The trouble comes when it is perceived to be a condition for acceptance in the group or favor with the leader. 

I would have also a problem with Bruce Pearl requiring attendance at Jewish services for non-Jewish players or highlighting solely  Jewish prayers pre-game. There should be a clear message that being religious is a personal choice, not a team requirement. Once that's done? Go for it ... but on one's own time. And it's not enough to not require participation.. To have a particular religion established during team meetings creates tremendous pressure for the players of a different religion to not rock the boat, but that doesn't make them any less uncomfortable.

So a guy like Drew would and should adjust at a public university that has no established religious affiliation. This is some really tricky stuff if there is not forethought and handled correctly. FWIW;  I have no doubt that Drew is really smart and perfectly capable of handling this correctly.

[lillurk]

6 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

I'm sure it's rather common knowledge but Fuzzy and Ned are pretty close "buds"

 

Salute, actually didn’t know this though I know where Fuzzy’s from. How’s he feel about IU hoops?