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[IvanRenkosillegitimatechild 53]

2 hours ago, yogisballin said:

I wish people would quit with this Stevens stuff, we’re not getting that guy. IU is nowhere near as desirable as it was say 15-20 years ago. There is no way Stevens is leaving his current cake job for this headache here in the B1G. Each post I read, if I see something regarding Stevens. I just move on and the quicker some of you let go of this pipe dream, the better. Zero chance people

Serious question have you ever coached basketball and then stopped? I have coached middle school basketball for over 10 years and this year had to give it up because of my sons select baseball schedule and every day I still think about coaching and how I can’t wait until my son gets in 5th grade so I can coach again. When you’re a coach you don’t just say oh I’m done and never doing it again unless you’re not a competitor and you hate it or you physically can’t do it anymore. You absolutely want back on the sideline and the itch gets bigger and bigger the further away you get. 

[Kentuckysucks 2,796]

4 minutes ago, JerryYeagley23 said:

All due respect, and we haven’t spoken directly on here or via messages. But it was widely reported in the media that BS turned down IU’s 7 year/$70m offer. So based on your sources, we weren’t far along in conversations before throwing a contract offer to him? I know you have connections in Boston, but my connections at IU would not discuss contract numbers unless we had both done due diligence and were preparing to negotiate. Not looking to argue, and respect what you’re saying. But in my opinion and according to my sources on the IU side, we were at the end stages of agreeing to hire BS last time until some things went wrong. 

And if Brad or Tracy were seriously negotiating with IU do you really think Brad would go and inform the Celtics brass of that?  No one who is thinking of taking another job goes and tells their current employer that until it’s a done deal.

[IvanRenkosillegitimatechild 53]

2 hours ago, Artie86 said:

.....quite honestly, I am having a hard time understanding what he is saying! lol

I thought I was the only one hahaha

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2 hours ago, JSHoosier said:

People were confident on Stevens last time too, then he publicly stated he has no interest.

It's not happening. Even if the new owners wanted to go in a different direction another NBA franchise would scoop him up.

I do feel like Stevens probably has an idea of who is going to put an offer in to buy the Celtics and do his research on If he wants to work for those owners or not.

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9 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

And if Brad or Tracy were seriously negotiating with IU do you really think Brad would go and inform the Celtics brass of that?  No one who is thinking of taking another job goes and tells their current employer that until it’s a done deal.

I think that’s the conventional wisdom but at the executive level these things tend to work differently. Not uncommon to have such conversations if you are well regarded in the organization and don’t want to burn bridges / try to give yourself leverage. 

[8bucks 6,665]

2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

I'm sure that already has a good idea from the last few weeks who is exactly interested and who is not. 

On a side not I love all the new people joining but some of them have no idea how this process works. 

For the new people, to be fair, they probably missed out on process 101 with KathyC.  

[OKHOOSIER 4,031]

FWIW, I followed the Harbs hiring pretty closely due to Michigan ties and numerous alumni in my family, and the narrative surrounding that was very similar. NFL fans and media were basically saying zero chance he leaves the NFL, and UM fans and insiders were essentially the only people saying it legitimately could happen. NFL and CFB media didn’t just think it wouldn’t happen, there was open mockery of UM and its fans for believing it would. Mgoblog was on top of it from the start. 
 

The circumstances aren’t exactly the same, but all the media noise nationally is strikingly similar IMO. Doesn’t mean anything, just my own observation. 

[IUHoosierJoe 1,431]

According to some folks’ logic here, despite what we believe we all saw for many years, Roy Williams didn’t really coach at North Carolina.  I mean, he was offered the North Carolina job in 2000 and turned it down, so there’s “0% chance” he would have taken it in 2003 when he was offered again.  Absolutely nothing would have changed in those three years.

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2 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

I think that’s the conventional wisdom but at the executive level these things tend to work differently. Not uncommon to have such conversations if you are well regarded in the organization and don’t want to burn bridges / try to give yourself leverage. 

You beat me to it. My COO has openly interviewed and been head hunted for a couple CEO positions elsewhere. It was never a secret. Our organization understands we will lose an amazing COO if our CEO doesn’t retire before he feels the need to move on. It’s not uncommon at all. 

[GloryDays 6,004]

3 hours ago, SlammySammy said:

Reminder....Jerry mentioned wayyyyyyy back 1000 posts ago in the retire Woodson thread that "we have our guy" and that we would know before the tournament starts....either he was wrong OR most likely someone NOT coaching in the tournament. It looks like most of the coaches mentioned will be in the tournament, including May, Pearl, Beard, McCollum, Drew, etc....Jay Wright, Brad Stevens and Billy Donovan only 3 mentioned that will definitely not be coaching in the tournament this year. Am I missing anyone? I mean unless its a D2 coach....or, lord help us, Randy Wittman....

It's the old Silent Verbal play.

[lillurk 4,008]

I would highly recommend the first 30 minutes of CurryHicksSage’s #searchSZN last night: https://twitter.com/curryhickssage/status/1889142509701365822?s=46

He talks at a high level about how all this works and then gets into his thoughts on IU. He’s plugged into Cbb coaching circles but is open that he doesn’t have any particular unique connections at IU.

Two guys he mentions that we haven’t discussed much here that I think are strong:

1. Todd Golden. Cleared of the non-criminal Title IX charge at UF, team is currently top 5 on Kenpom and top 10 in both O and D. 39 years old. CHS characterizes the charges as “being horny online” so you’d think if there were, e.g. unsolicited Richard pictures he might’ve been found liable even if the sanction was something much less than losing his job. Wonder if a fresh start in a new place might appeal.

2. Pat Kelsey. I find his schtick somewhat annoying but it seems *genuine*, quick turnaround at UL, not paid lots there so would be an easy get.

I love Dusty, so I don’t say this lightly, but to me these are coaches IU would do well to pursue if they can’t get the very tip top of the list

[Alford Bailey 12,512]

Finally BGLEAS speaks up. You should listen to him….

[tyappleg 3,982]

2 minutes ago, lillurk said:

I would highly recommend the first 30 minutes of CurryHicksSage’s #searchSZN last night: https://twitter.com/curryhickssage/status/1889142509701365822?s=46

He talks at a high level about how all this works and then gets into his thoughts on IU. He’s plugged into Cbb coaching circles but is open that he doesn’t have any particular unique connections at IU.

Two guys he mentions that we haven’t discussed much here that I think are strong:

1. Todd Golden. Cleared of the non-criminal Title IX charge at UF, team is currently top 5 on Kenpom and top 10 in both O and D. 39 years old. CHS characterizes the charges as “being horny online” so you’d think if there were, e.g. unsolicited Richard pictures he might’ve been found liable even if the sanction was something much less than losing his job. Wonder if a fresh start in a new place might appeal.

2. Pat Kelsey. I find his schtick somewhat annoying but it seems *genuine*, quick turnaround at UL, not paid lots there so would be an easy get.

I love Dusty, so I don’t say this lightly, but to me these are coaches IU would do well to pursue if they can’t get the very tip top of the list

I believe we will get Pat Kelsey a raise, he just won't be coaching Indiana.

[Unexpectedflash 1,182]

4 minutes ago, lillurk said:

I would highly recommend the first 30 minutes of CurryHicksSage’s #searchSZN last night: https://twitter.com/curryhickssage/status/1889142509701365822?s=46

He talks at a high level about how all this works and then gets into his thoughts on IU. He’s plugged into Cbb coaching circles but is open that he doesn’t have any particular unique connections at IU.

Two guys he mentions that we haven’t discussed much here that I think are strong:

1. Todd Golden. Cleared of the non-criminal Title IX charge at UF, team is currently top 5 on Kenpom and top 10 in both O and D. 39 years old. CHS characterizes the charges as “being horny online” so you’d think if there were, e.g. unsolicited Richard pictures he might’ve been found liable even if the sanction was something much less than losing his job. Wonder if a fresh start in a new place might appeal.

2. Pat Kelsey. I find his schtick somewhat annoying but it seems *genuine*, quick turnaround at UL, not paid lots there so would be an easy get.

I love Dusty, so I don’t say this lightly, but to me these are coaches IU would do well to pursue if they can’t get the very tip top of the list

I feel like there’s zero chance Kelsey leaves Louisville. He’s all in with them or a great actor. Also think there’s zero chance golden leaves because why would he. He has no ties to Indiana and has Florida rolling. He’ll get a nice raise to stay 

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51 minutes ago, BGleas said:

Just going on record for me personally since we're in a new search, I don't believe much of that happened last time. It wasn't close, he was never coming last time. 

I know you worked for the C's and likely still have connections there.  Seeing how you have been definitive in your responses makes me wonder if you are getting this directly from BS or his family.  IF the Chris version of last time is correct, I don't think Brad would have discussed this with anyone within the Celtics organization during the process.  I have changed jobs 6 times and I keep all those discussions private until I have accepted a job and past the background checks.  

Clearly you have heard something that suggests a different version occured.  Did BS have any discussions with IU?  Generally curious to hear your side beyond just saying the other version did not happen.

 

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5 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

I feel like there’s zero chance Kelsey leaves Louisville. He’s all in with them or a great actor. Also think there’s zero chance golden leaves because why would he. He has no ties to Indiana and has Florida rolling. He’ll get a nice raise to stay 

Sure, I think those are worthwhile questions. As for Kelsey, UL is not in a great spot financially; I’m sure they could give him a raise but IU can absolutely outspend them and provide more NIL.

Golden could just want a fresh start after the accusations, could want to be at a place with more resources for bball, etc.

[SlammySammy 487]

We are down to debating GOLDEN and KELSEY??? Two less inspiring candidates could not be found....

[Lebowski 2,909]

If we don't hire Ben McCollum we're going to regret this opportunity.  

[Hoosierfan2017 22,562]

17 minutes ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

According to some folks’ logic here, despite what we believe we all saw for many years, Roy Williams didn’t really coach at North Carolina.  I mean, he was offered the North Carolina job in 2000 and turned it down, so there’s “0% chance” he would have taken it in 2003 when he was offered again.  Absolutely nothing would have changed in those three years.

Roy Williams didn’t quit his coaching job and take a non-coaching job during those three years, and he also was a UNC alum. Brad Stevens has no connection to IU, he quit coaching entirely, and he’s turned the job down multiple times. He left the college game over a decade ago and reportedly didn’t like recruiting when he was in it. 

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13 minutes ago, lillurk said:

I would highly recommend the first 30 minutes of CurryHicksSage’s #searchSZN last night: https://twitter.com/curryhickssage/status/1889142509701365822?s=46

He talks at a high level about how all this works and then gets into his thoughts on IU. He’s plugged into Cbb coaching circles but is open that he doesn’t have any particular unique connections at IU.

Two guys he mentions that we haven’t discussed much here that I think are strong:

1. Todd Golden. Cleared of the non-criminal Title IX charge at UF, team is currently top 5 on Kenpom and top 10 in both O and D. 39 years old. CHS characterizes the charges as “being horny online” so you’d think if there were, e.g. unsolicited Richard pictures he might’ve been found liable even if the sanction was something much less than losing his job. Wonder if a fresh start in a new place might appeal.

2. Pat Kelsey. I find his schtick somewhat annoying but it seems *genuine*, quick turnaround at UL, not paid lots there so would be an easy get.

I love Dusty, so I don’t say this lightly, but to me these are coaches IU would do well to pursue if they can’t get the very tip top of the list

Was impressed with UF in their game against Auburn. I would think that a fresh start would be an appeal to get away from the accusations but my concern would be fans not being happy about IU hiring him even though he was cleared.