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[Hoosierfan1901]

Hell, they should make me coach

Resume: 

5 years playing elementary basketball 

1 year in middle school

 

[Hardwood83]

2 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said:

We are a program in the toilet and somehow trending further downward, somehow. We just took one of the games consensus great young coaches, chewed him up, and spit him out. If we were misled into making a coaching change by Stevens, it’s a fatal blow. Dolson would be working from square one with no hot leads. Don’t forget the donors who ponied up the dough to make the transition. This is true and Dolson and the athletic Dept just likely burned up every dime of political capital they had. Just imagine for one second that you were given assurances that a certain guy was coming, if you could meet certain demands, you commit to potentially 8 figures of your money towards said guy, and the athletic Dept delivers Dane ******* Fife...... I’d never take another phone call. Neither would you. 

Wha?!? Archie's failure is 100% on Archie's shoulders. I didn't tell him to favor Romeo or refuse to practice FT's or ignore recruiting/developing shooters. I doubt you did either, so not sure who "we" is. He got a shot at the big-time and shat himself. 

[DLG3]

Been off the thread since about 3.  Does this sum up the last few hours?
unsubstantiated rumors that Matta agreed to a deal with Indiana and then failed a physical.  Quickly shot down by the most reliable local reporters from our athletic department as untrue.  No one actually has any reliable information that IU talked to Matta, much less went into contract talks or asked him to take alleged physical.  Reaction even after this non proof assumes that all the rumors were true and that apparently he was the only guy we have talked and that we are an embarrassment.  Then some Indiana sports guy with a twitter following smaller than my 12 year old nephew says it will be Belein, then intimates it will be someone from a multitude of former Indians guys.
do I have it summed up?

Yes. You should save us all a lot of time and just do this for every day haha.


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[TheWatShot]

1 minute ago, brumdog45 said:

Been off the thread since about 3.  Does this sum up the last few hours?

unsubstantiated rumors that Matta agreed to a deal with Indiana and then failed a physical.  Quickly shot down by the most reliable local reporters from our athletic department as untrue.  No one actually has any reliable information that IU talked to Matta, much less went into contract talks or asked him to take alleged physical.  Reaction even after this non proof assumes that all the rumors were true and that apparently he was the only guy we have talked and that we are an embarrassment.  Then some Indiana sports guy with a twitter following smaller than my 12 year old nephew says it will be Belein, then intimates it will be someone from a multitude of former Indians guys.

do I have it summed up?

I majored in Journalism when I was in college, and my teachers always stressed getting every detail right. Why? Because even if you publish a correction after publishing a mistake, some people will see the correction, but everyone will remember the mistake. 

[lillurk]

1 hour ago, Sandman said:

I keep seeing this "prints money" comment about Arkansas...why haven't they printed money for a football coach? They were a good football program in the SWC in the old days. You think they want to suck at the sport that makes the REAL money? They've been trash in the SEC, why not throw money at a big time football coach? For that matter, why were they wandering in the desert for so many years after Richardson was axed? They could've money-whipped a big name coach years ago, why didn't they?

This, exactly this. Yes the Waltons absolutely COULD throw money at the program and its coaches but they haven’t really tried that up to now.

Musselman’s transience is not a problem. He immediately made Nevada better than it had been IN ITS HISTORY, then left for a better job. He has gotten Arkansas near its historic peak, 1994 notwithstanding, in two years. Indiana is a better job than Arkansas.

What’s a better job than Indiana? To Muss, probably the NBA. But two issues there:

1. If he leaves for a pro job, it probably means he did very well at IU, and
2. The NBA tried him twice already, so he’d be a retread who would probably not get tons of interest at that level unless he REALLY crushed it for awhile in college.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

It seems most likely to me that the person who should be embarrassed is the guy at Rivals who printed the rumor, not IU

Yes, to a degree he/they should. Also, they likely aren’t fabricating this story out of thin air. They are trying to report facts as they find them. That’s on IU to tidy things up.

Do you believe the story is true?


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[TadQueasy]

1 minute ago, Hooserfan1901 said:

Hell, they should make me coach

[DLG3]

Chris, I have to ask...do you think Dolson has totally moved on from Stevens, or is he gonna make another push? Sure seems like he probably got a firm no.


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[TheWatShot]

6 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said:

We are a program in the toilet and somehow trending further downward, somehow. We just took one of the games consensus great young coaches, chewed him up, and spit him out. If we were misled into making a coaching change by Stevens, it’s a fatal blow. Dolson would be working from square one with no hot leads. Don’t forget the donors who ponied up the dough to make the transition. This is true and Dolson and the athletic Dept just likely burned up every dime of political capital they had. Just imagine for one second that you were given assurances that a certain guy was coming, if you could meet certain demands, you commit to potentially 8 figures of your money towards said guy, and the athletic Dept delivers Dane ******* Fife...... I’d never take another phone call. Neither would you. 

Archie Miller was never a "great young coach." His success at Dayton was overblown, his offense was terrible and got worse every year he was there, and the perception of him was heavily influenced by him being the brother of a successful coach at Arizona. 

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

What this tells me is that options 1 thru 5 all said 'No' (Stevens, Donovan, Bennett, Beard, Few) 

I was rooting for Matta, because I assumed the options above would say NO, Matta's impeccable record speaks for itself.

Where we go now.......Altman, Beilein, Musselman, Moser?

Whose options? BtownBanners or Dolson? You have no idea what his options are.

 

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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

Whew....someone just jumped the gun then on that rumor....

As were the reactions

 

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[HoosierTrav]

Anoter thing that I’m probably looking into too much but notable. The athletic Dept was lightning quick to dispel the Matta rumors but did not and have yet to do the same regarding ANY of the Stevens rumors. Worrisome. 

[Chris007]

2 minutes ago, DLG3 said:

Chris, I have to ask...do you think Dolson has totally moved on from Stevens, or is he gonna make another push? Sure seems like he probably got a firm no.


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My personal opinion is he hasn’t totally. But I don’t know that.

[HoosierTrav]

2 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Archie Miller was never a "great young coach." His success at Dayton was overblown, his offense was terrible and got worse every year he was there, and the perception of him was heavily influenced by him being the brother of a successful coach at Arizona. 

We can all look back into the past from the present and be right. But at the time Archie was hired he was considered a rising star by nearly everyone who is anyone. You can deny that all you want. 

[coonhounds]

Archie Miller was never a "great young coach." His success at Dayton was overblown, his offense was terrible and got worse every year he was there, and the perception of him was heavily influenced by him being the brother of a successful coach at Arizona. 

His brother is clearly a cheat in the biggest way. Also ncaa results wise would be murdered by our fan base including me. He has bought enough talent he should have delivered by now.

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[lillurk]

1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Yes, to a degree he/they should. Also, they likely aren’t fabricating this story out of thin air. They are trying to report facts as they find them. That’s on IU to tidy things up.

Do you believe the story is true?


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I believe he posted it in good faith but might not have been following journalistic best practices (two or more sources). And/or his source(s) are bad.

I don’t believe it’s true. It sure seems like Dolson or intermediaries have talked to lots of folks, more folks than I would imagine are actually on his shortlist. Biding time until Beard and later Muss can talk, I’d guess.

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

Never. Trust. Sources.
If that's not apparent at this point, I don't know what to say. People are flinging crap against the wall just to see what sticks. Bottom line is this. Only 2 people know for sure what's going down, and that's Scott Dolson, and the coach he's in negotiations with. Period. This has passed the point of speculation and crossed into utter stupidity. 

This

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[ap2345]

According to Snow IU has not contacted Beard or his representation about the job.

[Artie86]

3 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

My personal opinion is he hasn’t totally. But I don’t know that.

I feel the same way...

[coonhounds]

My personal opinion is he hasn’t totally. But I don’t know that.

Still holding out hope in my camp. [emoji120]

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