General Coach Candidate News

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I think @ap2345 already answered the questions about a GM but I’d add that as C’s coach, BS had input on player decisions but Danny Ainge made the call.

Now BS is where the buck stops as president of basketball ops, but the Cs have a GM, and surely Mazzulla has input on player personnel too. There’s a division of labor and there always has been in college, too, albeit with different titles.

My guess is that recruits with NBA aspirations like the NBA-style titles, among other things.

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3 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

So, just for giggles I looked it up and February 26th is National Carpe Diem Day. Hopefully, Scott and Brad do so and seize the day by announcing that we have our next head coach.

Unfortunately, it's also National Tell a Fairy Tale Day, so there's that.

As far as the GM role, assuming it would only be for basketball, football would have their own if needed? If so, this might be a good spot for Fife. He seemed to have great recruiting connections, and would bring him back into the program as a potential successor when Stevens decides to step down.

Well those two bolded days pretty much describe the two camps concerning Brad Stevens on this board.

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The AAU call is really difficult for me to understand UNLESS there was extreme confidence from Scott Dolson that Brad Stevens was going to be the new head coach. If Scott Dolson actually said some version of "we have our top target, he's not currently a college head coach and he has two weeks to decide" to leading AAU figures in the state, clearly alluding to Brad Stevens, there can only be a couple of logical explanations: 

First, Stevens is all but signed and they are just working out small-picture contract details and begin working with the Celtics to figure out succession plans. Of course, those plans would be very short-term due to the pending ownership change. Stevens knows how important the relationship with Indiana Elite and others would be so he has Scott not-so-vaguely let them know what is likely coming. That seems like a stretch to me but this call apparently happened so...maybe this is not crazy?

The second option is that conversations have been had with Brad Stevens, Dolson is hopeful and confident but nothing is really close to set in stone. He knows Dusty May is getting approached for a new contract with Michigan so time is ticking and he has this call to apply a very unsubtle timeline to Brad Stevens. This seems like a serious overplaying of his hand and looks a bit foolish to leading AAU figures if Brad Stevens is not the guy. I find this second option even more unrealistic and it seems like something Scott Dolson would not even consider doing. 

I am extremely hesitant to get my hopes up but that is getting more difficult by the day. 

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Just now, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

Has any names leaked of who Brad would want his GM to be? I could see him bringing someone from Boston with him or someone from one of his Butler teams that’s a great basketball mind.

Possibly Austin Ainge

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1 minute ago, HoosierHuddle said:

The AAU call is really difficult for me to understand UNLESS there was extreme confidence from Scott Dolson that Brad Stevens was going to be the new head coach. If Scott Dolson actually said some version of "we have our top target, he's not currently a college head coach and he has two weeks to decide" to leading AAU figures in the state, clearly alluding to Brad Stevens, there can only be a couple of logical explanations: 

First, Stevens is all but signed and they are just working out small-picture contract details and begin working with the Celtics to figure out succession plans. Of course, those plans would be very short-term due to the pending ownership change. Stevens knows how important the relationship with Indiana Elite and others would be so he has Scott not-so-vaguely let them know what is likely coming. That seems like a stretch to me but this call apparently happened so...maybe this is not crazy?

The second option is that conversations have been had with Brad Stevens, Dolson is hopeful and confident but nothing is really close to set in stone. He knows Dusty May is getting approached for a new contract with Michigan so time is ticking and he has this call to apply a very unsubtle timeline to Brad Stevens. This seems like a serious overplaying of his hand and looks a bit foolish to leading AAU figures if Brad Stevens is not the guy. I find this second option even more unrealistic and it seems like something Scott Dolson would not even consider doing. 

I am extremely hesitant to get my hopes up but that is getting more difficult by the day. 

Scott's not stupid. If that happened you don't do that without having a good understanding of what the situation is. It's not just that. IU is also scheduling non conference games which is odd without a HC 

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1 minute ago, HoosierHuddle said:

The AAU call is really difficult for me to understand UNLESS there was extreme confidence from Scott Dolson that Brad Stevens was going to be the new head coach. If Scott Dolson actually said some version of "we have our top target, he's not currently a college head coach and he has two weeks to decide" to leading AAU figures in the state, clearly alluding to Brad Stevens, there can only be a couple of logical explanations: 

First, Stevens is all but signed and they are just working out small-picture contract details and begin working with the Celtics to figure out succession plans. Of course, those plans would be very short-term due to the pending ownership change. Stevens knows how important the relationship with Indiana Elite and others would be so he has Scott not-so-vaguely let them know what is likely coming. That seems like a stretch to me but this call apparently happened so...maybe this is not crazy?

The second option is that conversations have been had with Brad Stevens, Dolson is hopeful and confident but nothing is really close to set in stone. He knows Dusty May is getting approached for a new contract with Michigan so time is ticking and he has this call to apply a very unsubtle timeline to Brad Stevens. This seems like a serious overplaying of his hand and looks a bit foolish to leading AAU figures if Brad Stevens is not the guy. I find this second option even more unrealistic and it seems like something Scott Dolson would not even consider doing. 

I am extremely hesitant to get my hopes up but that is getting more difficult by the day. 

I agree, I'm hesitant on this info, but it was on Trilly, which I hold in higher regard than certain avenues. 

My question about the whole "AAU" thing is why? It's not to put pressure on BS, sorry, but I don't believe that. And as a coach, that would turn me off..

Now.... there is one pretty massive in-state recruit that played for Indiana Elite (hmmmmmmmmm) .... like maybe that was strategically done by BS because he's, in an indirect way, telling Mullins pump the brakes young fella. 

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15 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

IT'S DESTINY!

 

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1 hour ago, Capt. Crimson said:

Brad's coming home y'all. 

Brad Stevens Coming Home

Credit to @Tony Adragna

 

1 hour ago, BA47591 said:

Sounds like Scott has a plan. As often as he talks to Brad if he's still working that situation, maybe it's possible. Can we presume that the agent contacts have been made with Dusty? That's probably several weeks from taking shape. I wonder who is the next teir of contacts? 

 

I wonder if Dolson plan is to sing the above song to him everyday until Stevens signs on the dotted line?  Never know could work. 

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I just pray whoever the coach is they fire Clif Marshall LOL

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Just now, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

I just pray whoever the coach is they fire Clif Marshall LOL

Then you give Tyme what he wants

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2 minutes ago, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

I just pray whoever the coach is they fire Clif Marshall LOL

Cliff seems like a great guy...but man oh man has our shooting sucked in the 8 years he's been here. 

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3 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

Scott's not stupid. If that happened you don't do that without having a good understanding of what the situation is. It's not just that. IU is also scheduling non conference games which is odd without a HC 

The non-conference games being scheduled for next year definitely piques the interest.  I don’t see how that would happen without a HC in place.  I suppose it’s possible, though I don’t find it probable.

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7 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

Scott's not stupid. If that happened you don't do that without having a good understanding of what the situation is. It's not just that. IU is also scheduling non conference games which is odd without a HC 

Right...I know Scott is not stupid. Very far from it. That was kinda the point of my post but I rambled a bit. The only reason a very smart person chooses to have that type of conversation with that type of wording is because of extreme confidence in the outcome. The scheduling part is odd as well. Things that, without context, could be seen as normal course of events for a basketball program that needs to fill out a schedule with better games and a basketball program that needs to have a better relationship with AAU programs in the state...normal things that the AD is proactively taking care of. However, with the added clear hint at Brad Stevens being candidate #1, plus those other dots...even someone as dim as myself can't help but connect said dots.

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1 hour ago, iu eyedoc said:

Brad on the phone to his parents this morning:

 

....I've had that CD since '91 when it came out. It's been played a lot. lol

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2 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

Cliff seems like a great guy...but man oh man has our shooting sucked in the 8 years he's been here. 

Correlation or Causation? Archie's teams at Rhode Island aren't shooting the lights out either. Woodson hasn't exactly recruited many known shooters beside Luke Goode, who is shooting 41% this season for 3 even after a terrible November.

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1 hour ago, ib4iu said:

While this is certainly possible, and has happened for elite executive people in the past (Theo Epstein and Billy Beane) it’s pretty rare. Given the team is selling. Current owners looking to sell 51%. I can’t imagine them wanting to sell majority stake and then give a couple % of their leftover to Brad. On the flip side, the new owner isn’t going to give a couple % to Brad and lose majority ownership. 

Well maybe with IU's interest Stevens's agent can leverage a measly percent or two and a larger salary out of it. 

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5 minutes ago, PartyintheVillas said:

Correlation or Causation? Archie's teams at Rhode Island aren't shooting the lights out either. Woodson hasn't exactly recruited many known shooters beside Luke Goode, who is shooting 41% this season for 3 even after a terrible November.

I'm not blaming Cliff solely on our shooting struggles but probably is some sort of correlation.  His background is in football too. If he's doing the same workout as before, then probably not the best. 

[Trish 14,477]

Alright folks, almost 11AM on the EST zone. It’s time to switch the discussion to Randy Whitman / unqualified candidates. 

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10 minutes ago, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

I just pray whoever the coach is they fire Clif Marshall LOL

I am in the camp that believes Marshall has a ton to do with our shooting issues.  When I played in HS our coaches warned us that significant weight lifting would affect our shooting and we would need to put in twice the shooting work to maintain.  Also, it was heavily discourage during season.  Anytime you mess with the shooting motion ratio (including visual, muscle memory and strength) that its is going to affect your percentage/ability until your brain retrains itself and gets the ratio back in sync.  Now, that could be all BS, but I do know I shot worse immediately after nearly every single time, so I believe it from first hand experience.

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9 minutes ago, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

I just pray whoever the coach is they fire Clif Marshall LOL

I’m not on here a ton but this doesn’t get enough discussion (unless I don’t know where to look).  IMHO he has to be a key source to our shooting woes