General Coach Candidate News

[AZ Hoosier 9,499]

1 minute ago, Hovadipo said:

Hang on, there’s a new format? Is Old Fart pushing random buttons again?

I thought Old Fart was still busy fetching bandwidth from he crick... that's a lot of responsibility for an old dude...

[iu2win 144]

I have not been a big supporter of Buzz W but shutting down the court storming last night after upsetting Auburn was impressive.

[realTomCrean 2,136]

Brad Stevens, Chris Beard, Tom Crean. Those are the legitimate choices, pick 1 Hoosier

[Class of '66 Old Fart 87,884]

[jimsorgi 560]

1 minute ago, iu2win said:

I have not been a big supporter of Buzz W but shutting down the court storming last night after upsetting Auburn was impressive.

I didn't have "ability to shut down court storming" on my list of priorities. Need to revisit our other candidates. I'm not sure Mark Turgeon would be as effective in that role. 

[Uspshoosier 51,081]

11 minutes ago, iu2win said:

How many superstar Creighton players can the average IU fan name?  

Probably not a lot maybe however someone like me who has watched them a lot could name every starter from the Elite 8 team.   That team was loaded.   Ryan Kalkbrenner, Trey Alexander, Arthur Kaluma, Ryan nembhard, and Baylor Shierirman.  Lost by 1 in the Elite 8 and Kaluma and nembhard decide to enter the transfer portal.   They could have ran an elite 8 team back and those kids left for more money.  Mason miller was on that team as well who McDermott beat out Miller for his commitment.   He can coach.   Only thing is his name gets brought up every year as someone who could move on from Creighton but never does 

[DSUMMITT 163]

16 minutes ago, Motley's said:

There's a belief among some in the donor community that this season would have turned out differently if Malik hadn't been injured. They've made a big investment in a core group of players (Rice, Carlyle, Malik & Mgbako). 

They'd like to see that group return to maintain continuity and not have a total rebuild. 

Honestly I don't hate that group under the right coach - you'd need to be disciplined and get Carlyle be your defensive stopper (he's got the speed) plus if you can keep Goode (may get a year back - only played 10 games) and get Mgbako head right (last 5 games have been better) especially defensively then you've got a real solid core.  

Obviously you'd need to bring in a stud or 2.

Compare that starting lineup to Drakes or even Northwestern - how many games does Collins win with that group?

 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 10,261]

4 minutes ago, iu2win said:

I have not been a big supporter of Buzz W but shutting down the court storming last night after upsetting Auburn was impressive.

Don't like Buzz? I like Buzz. 

I have seen people state Scott Drew is on the "backside of the mountain".... which side of the mountain would Buzz Williams be on? 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 10,261]

2 minutes ago, DSUMMITT said:

Honestly I don't hate that group under the right coach - you'd need to be disciplined and get Carlyle be your defensive stopper (he's got the speed) plus if you can keep Goode (may get a year back - only played 10 games) and get Mgbako head right (last 5 games have been better) especially defensively then you've got a real solid core.  

Obviously you'd need to bring in a stud or 2.

Compare that starting lineup to Drakes or even Northwestern - how many games does Collins win with that group?

 

There's is no way Collins would put up with Mgbako. I'm disappointed that we do. 

[Chris007 55,994]

2 minutes ago, DSUMMITT said:

Honestly I don't hate that group under the right coach - you'd need to be disciplined and get Carlyle be your defensive stopper (he's got the speed) plus if you can keep Goode (may get a year back - only played 10 games) and get Mgbako head right (last 5 games have been better) especially defensively then you've got a real solid core.  

Obviously you'd need to bring in a stud or 2.

Compare that starting lineup to Drakes or even Northwestern - how many games does Collins win with that group?

 

But the donors lost the right to decide this when they decided Woodson was the guy to coach these guys. Even though everyone told them he couldn't coach

[Hoosierfan1901 7,315]

Stevens won’t be coming, let’s just get a winner that wants to be here

[Motley's 308]

Creighton is like Dayton. Everyone wins there. They've had a few clunkers, but not for long. 

 

Rk	Coach	From	To	Yrs	G	W	L	W-L%	CREG	CTRN	NCAA	FF	NC
1	Greg McDermott	2011	2025	15	515	346	169	.672	2	2	9	0	0
2	Dana Altman	1995	2010	16	503	327	176	.650	3	6	7	0	0
3	Arthur Schabinger	1923	1935	13	229	163	66	.712	4	0	0	0	0
4	Red McManus	1960	1969	10	256	138	118	.539	0	0	2	0	0
5	Tom Apke	1975	1981	7	194	130	64	.670	1	2	3	0	0
6	Eddie Hickey	1936	1947	9	202	130	72	.644	4	0	1	0	0
7	Tony Barone	1986	1991	6	184	102	82	.554	2	2	2	0	0
8	Eddie Sutton	1970	1974	5	132	82	50	.621	0	0	1	0	0
9	Duce Belford	1946

 

[HoosierSadaseci 2,497]

4 minutes ago, Hoosierfan1901 said:

Stevens won’t be coming, let’s just get a winner that wants to be here

Don't know that Stevens doesn't want be here...

[jimsorgi 560]

8 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Probably not a lot maybe however someone like me who has watched them a lot could name every starter from the Elite 8 team.   That team was loaded.   Ryan Kalkbrenner, Trey Alexander, Arthur Kaluma, Ryan nembhard, and Baylor Shierirman.  Lost by 1 in the Elite 8 and Kaluma and nembhard decide to enter the transfer portal.   They could have ran an elite 8 team back and those kids left for more money.  Mason miller was on that team as well who McDermott beat out Miller for his commitment.   He can coach.   Only thing is his name gets brought up every year as someone who could move on from Creighton but never does 

Kalkbrenner has been on that team forever. 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 10,261]

1 minute ago, Motley's said:

Creighton is like Dayton. Everyone wins there. They've had a few clunkers, but not for long. 

 

Rk	Coach	From	To	Yrs	G	W	L	W-L%	CREG	CTRN	NCAA	FF	NC
1	Greg McDermott	2011	2025	15	515	346	169	.672	2	2	9	0	0
2	Dana Altman	1995	2010	16	503	327	176	.650	3	6	7	0	0
3	Arthur Schabinger	1923	1935	13	229	163	66	.712	4	0	0	0	0
4	Red McManus	1960	1969	10	256	138	118	.539	0	0	2	0	0
5	Tom Apke	1975	1981	7	194	130	64	.670	1	2	3	0	0
6	Eddie Hickey	1936	1947	9	202	130	72	.644	4	0	1	0	0
7	Tony Barone	1986	1991	6	184	102	82	.554	2	2	2	0	0
8	Eddie Sutton	1970	1974	5	132	82	50	.621	0	0	1	0	0
9	Duce Belford	1946

 

hold on now.... the last 10 years have had completely different competition for Creighton than every other previous season

[go iu bb 7,829]

29 minutes ago, Motley's said:

There's a belief among some in the donor community that this season would have turned out differently if Malik hadn't been injured. They've made a big investment in a core group of players (Rice, Carlyle, Malik & Mgbako). 

They'd like to see that group return to maintain continuity and not have a total rebuild. 

You know, they're probably right in that it would have turned out differently but probably not correct in the way they think. It probably would have turned out worse and IU would have no shot at the tournament at this point. That injury forced Woodson to go away from the 2 big lineup which he then continued when he saw it actually worked better.

[8bucks 7,063]

1 minute ago, Motley's said:

Creighton is like Dayton. Everyone wins there. They've had a few clunkers, but not for long. 

 

Rk	Coach	From	To	Yrs	G	W	L	W-L%	CREG	CTRN	NCAA	FF	NC
1	Greg McDermott	2011	2025	15	515	346	169	.672	2	2	9	0	0
2	Dana Altman	1995	2010	16	503	327	176	.650	3	6	7	0	0
3	Arthur Schabinger	1923	1935	13	229	163	66	.712	4	0	0	0	0
4	Red McManus	1960	1969	10	256	138	118	.539	0	0	2	0	0
5	Tom Apke	1975	1981	7	194	130	64	.670	1	2	3	0	0
6	Eddie Hickey	1936	1947	9	202	130	72	.644	4	0	1	0	0
7	Tony Barone	1986	1991	6	184	102	82	.554	2	2	2	0	0
8	Eddie Sutton	1970	1974	5	132	82	50	.621	0	0	1	0	0
9	Duce Belford	1946

 

Can you expand that to sweet 16's, FF's, Rankings, that would help differentiate from being a mid-major to being more of a P5 school now

[Unexpectedflash 1,355]

1 minute ago, Motley's said:

Creighton is like Dayton. Everyone wins there. They've had a few clunkers, but not for long. 

 

Rk	Coach	From	To	Yrs	G	W	L	W-L%	CREG	CTRN	NCAA	FF	NC
1	Greg McDermott	2011	2025	15	515	346	169	.672	2	2	9	0	0
2	Dana Altman	1995	2010	16	503	327	176	.650	3	6	7	0	0
3	Arthur Schabinger	1923	1935	13	229	163	66	.712	4	0	0	0	0
4	Red McManus	1960	1969	10	256	138	118	.539	0	0	2	0	0
5	Tom Apke	1975	1981	7	194	130	64	.670	1	2	3	0	0
6	Eddie Hickey	1936	1947	9	202	130	72	.644	4	0	1	0	0
7	Tony Barone	1986	1991	6	184	102	82	.554	2	2	2	0	0
8	Eddie Sutton	1970	1974	5	132	82	50	.621	0	0	1	0	0
9	Duce Belford	1946

 

Well he's the only one in the big east out of those coaches

[Hoosierfan1901 7,315]

1 minute ago, HoosierSadaseci said:

Don't know that Stevens doesn't want be here...

I’m just being realistic, I definitely want him, but it feels like a prayer. I also read something that their potential sale won’t be finalized until 2028. 

[moyemayhem 1,476]

2 minutes ago, Motley's said:

Creighton is like Dayton. Everyone wins there. They've had a few clunkers, but not for long. 

 

Rk	Coach	From	To	Yrs	G	W	L	W-L%	CREG	CTRN	NCAA	FF	NC
1	Greg McDermott	2011	2025	15	515	346	169	.672	2	2	9	0	0
2	Dana Altman	1995	2010	16	503	327	176	.650	3	6	7	0	0
3	Arthur Schabinger	1923	1935	13	229	163	66	.712	4	0	0	0	0
4	Red McManus	1960	1969	10	256	138	118	.539	0	0	2	0	0
5	Tom Apke	1975	1981	7	194	130	64	.670	1	2	3	0	0
6	Eddie Hickey	1936	1947	9	202	130	72	.644	4	0	1	0	0
7	Tony Barone	1986	1991	6	184	102	82	.554	2	2	2	0	0
8	Eddie Sutton	1970	1974	5	132	82	50	.621	0	0	1	0	0
9	Duce Belford	1946

 

There is a BIG difference between winning in the Missouri Valley Conference and winning in the Big East.  Comparing McDermott’s success to the others is apples and oranges.