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[Ryno6284 4,287]

48 minutes ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

I’ll just say this, and people can think what they want regarding the quality of my fandom, but I think IU is taking a major risk if this is the route they choose.  I am a late 80s IU grad and I have been a huge fan since the mid 70s.  In other words, I am in the age group that grew up witnessing the potential of this program, and firmly believe everything is still in place to still be achieving at least close to that level (with the right coach, of course).  I have a funny feeling that many my age, and especially those of us in northern Indiana, have little interest in 6-8 years of somewhat improved but still underachieving mediocrity, with a promise of better days ahead if we just hang in there 6-8 more years, especially given that there is an IU grad killing it in his first year just to the north of us.  I am about at the end of my rope after 30 years of donating to and supporting a program that has consistently made decisions that led to underachievement.  So I really hope the administration is taking into consideration the chance they may lose a chunk of the fan base if something like this is in their plans.

I appreciate your point of view on this and response. Do you think McDermott would be like late 90’s IU teams as a ceiling? I see him as early 90’s IU teams who competed for big ten titles and were threats in the dance. That is what I think he would do here. Not just make the tournament.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 11,207]

I see McDermott as one of the "lower risks" hires we could make, his ceiling just might not be as high as we want. 

[theriverpilot 6,701]

2 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I see McDermott as one of the "lower risks" hires we could make, his ceiling just might not be as high as we want. 

You certainly wouldn't see any of the head-scratching coaching moves from McDermott as seen under Woodson, but then again, that could be said about any coach on the search list.

[8bucks 7,441]

11 minutes ago, BGleas said:

Yeah, have seen a few posts over the last couple of days saying McDermott "flopped in his only Power 5 job". 

He's literally in a Power 5 job right now and as yoy said, has been for the last 10 years. 

I think his coaching acumen is strong enough but does anyone know how he has done upgrading talent in the portal and developing talent via HS kids?  Here, I presume, he will have access to a lot of $ to recruit but the portal recruiting seems to be a different strategy and I wonder how he has done evaluating and then getting results that route.  I liked Cigs approach to recruit production over potential and wonder how a guy at a "smaller" school will do with those resources here

[mamasa 15,889]

16 hours ago, Scotty R said:

I guess it is that time of day for a new troll to stop by to dampen the fans spirit

Nah, we don't need new trolls, we have plenty of trolls that already post here.......

[Silat Player 1,821]

15 minutes ago, mamasa said:

Mad Max and Brother Dan who used to spew vile quasi-biblical nonsense by Ballentine here in Bloomington lol. I saw Brother Dan get knocked TFO by my friend on the football team, Dan made a really racist comment, my friend just dropped him on the spot lol!

I realized just how different Purdue and IU were by how they treated their religious zealots. I started my post-secondary career at Purdue. The fire and brimstone preacher was most often called "Brother Max" by the students there. 

When I got to IU for grad school, I remember one of my classmates telling me about some guy screaming at students who was called "Mad Max." I thought, "That's a weird coincidence." Sure enough, same guy, of course. I wonder what his schedule was at the different campuses around the state. He seemed like he was at Purdue A LOT during my 4 years there. I didn't see him all that often at IU...

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 11,207]

2 minutes ago, theriverpilot said:

You certainly wouldn't see any of the head-scratching coaching moves from McDermott as seen under Woodson, but then again, that could be said about any coach on the search list.

I'd rather just have a team that's prepared, can function on the fly, and knows how to get good, consistent looks from 3. The in-game coaching takes care of itself. Values perimeter and guard play over whatever it is that we value now. 

[EasyEJay 739]

So people are feeling that McDermott is positioned as the clubhouse favorite? Or am I way off base here ? 

[Hippopotamo 707]

1 hour ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

I’ll just say this, and people can think what they want regarding the quality of my fandom, but I think IU is taking a major risk if this is the route they choose.  I am a late 80s IU grad and I have been a huge fan since the mid 70s.  In other words, I am in the age group that grew up witnessing the potential of this program, and firmly believe everything is still in place to still be achieving at least close to that level (with the right coach, of course).  I have a funny feeling that many my age, and especially those of us in northern Indiana, have little interest in 6-8 years of somewhat improved but still underachieving mediocrity, with a promise of better days ahead if we just hang in there 6-8 more years, especially given that there is an IU grad killing it in his first year just to the north of us.  I am about at the end of my rope after 30 years of donating to and supporting a program that has consistently made decisions that led to underachievement.  So I really hope the administration is taking into consideration the chance they may lose a chunk of the fan base if something like this is in their plans.

Dude, I love this post. I’m 31, went to IU from 2011-15 so I got to see the Oladipo/Zeller years, but since 2016 this program has been barely treading water outside of TJD. I am so sick of this pleading for stability just so we can at least watch IU lose in the 2nd round of the NCAA tournament every year. The resources are such that we can still demand a high level program, but if these next four years are mediocre you’ll almost certainly lose an entire generation of fans. These freshman at IU were 5 years old when the Watshot happened, and have basically only grown up with Indiana basketball being no more competitive than Northwestern. If they expect to still sell out Assembly Hall, have elite NIL funding, and be relevant in the modern era of college basketball they better get this hire right. 

[IUHoosierJoe 2,080]

10 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I see McDermott as one of the "lower risks" hires we could make, his ceiling just might not be as high as we want. 

I agree.  But I believe hiring someone with a lower ceiling presents a risk in itself.  Telling us older guys to wait another 6-8 for the ceiling that matches our potential may not work this time.  That was the point I was trying to make.

[lillurk 4,916]

Just now, EasyEJay said:

So people are feeling that McDermott is positioned as the clubhouse favorite? Or am I way off base here ? 

I don’t think so, I think he’s just the guy we’re talking about this morning since there’s nothing substantive to talk about

[Silat Player 1,821]

25 minutes ago, tyappleg said:

Creighton has been a P5 job for 10 years now. 

Thats true. But, what happened at Iowa State? McDermott was 59-68 there. If anything, I would worry about that...

[moyemayhem 1,704]

17 hours ago, moyemayhem said:

 

Caption Contest!

Good job everyone... I set the bate, and nobody took it.  Still trying to figure if this is a picture of one jerk or two.

 

[Ryno6284 4,287]

23 minutes ago, Papacap said:

I don’t want a coach who can’t get his team to lead the country in deflections.

I expected this to be from @realTomCrean! Lol

[cbp4iu 2,277]

@Chris007 if we lose Saturday will the rumor mill be churning 15+ pages a hour? I imagine if we lose Saturday that Dolson will start going to off-season mode. I think he realizes if we lose we would probably need 3 wins in the big 10 tourney and would probably like to use that first week especially if we aren’t playing in the tourney to get everything in place.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 11,207]

Just now, IUHoosierJoe said:

I agree.  But I believe hiring someone with a lower ceiling presents a risk in itself.  Telling us older guys to wait another 6-8 for the ceiling that matches our potential may not work this time.  That was the point I was trying to make.

No, I didn't say he had a lower ceiling, I said that would be the question, he MIGHT not have as high of a ceiling as we'd want, and if so, we shouldn't hire him. It's Dolson's job to figure that out... you're making up the "6-8 years"... we have no clue how long it'd be for us to be "where we wanted to be"... It might be next season. 

[Silat Player 1,821]

2 minutes ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

I agree.  But I believe hiring someone with a lower ceiling presents a risk in itself.  Telling us older guys to wait another 6-8 for the ceiling that matches our potential may not work this time.  That was the point I was trying to make.

Yep. What's the point in hiring an older guy who you doubt is going to win you a title? There are probably a hundred coaches out there that can get IU an occasional league title and some Sweet 16s - especially with their B1G money & NIL warchest. I'd rather see them go after a coach who is younger and has some more of an upside than that. 

[IUHoosierJoe 2,080]

1 minute ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

No, I didn't say he had a lower ceiling, I said that would be the question, he MIGHT not have as high of a ceiling as we'd want, and if so, we shouldn't hire him. It's Dolson's job to figure that out... you're making up the "6-8 years"... we have no clue how long it'd be for us to be "where we wanted to be"... It might be next season. 

I didn’t make up the 6-8 years.  I quoted it from the post I originally responded to.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 11,207]

3 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

Thats true. But, what happened at Iowa State? McDermott was 59-68 there. If anything, I would worry about that...

that was 15+ years ago and if we're worried about that.... TJ O has some recent season we should REALLY worry about. 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 11,207]

1 minute ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

I didn’t make up the 6-8 years.  I quoted it from the post I originally responded to.

I found that post outlandish.