General Coach Candidate News

[HoosierAloha]

2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

A few people who are the money behind this have places there. I have heard Fuzzy Zoeller name more this year than any other year. Maybe he's the Zoeller and not Cody Zeller.

I'm sure it's rather common knowledge but Fuzzy and Ned are pretty close "buds"

 

[Uspshoosier]

When the dust settles and a coach is hired some on here might be disappointed with the hire and be let down however I promise you that the sun will come up the next day and after processing the hire everyone will be back on here hoping for the best and ready for this program to be turned around.    

[Hovadipo]

6 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

That part of Tom Allen was a major bonus

Until it got in the way of hiring good coaches and instead only hiring people that thought like him. Hopefully he and Drew differ there.

[Chris007]

Just now, HoosierAloha said:

I'm sure it's rather common knowledge but Fuzzy and Ned are pretty close "buds"

 

Yes, I thought so. I just remember hearing Ned's name a lot in the past searches but not Fuzzy's. This time Fuzzy name has popped up more and Andy Mohr. I haven't seen it but I hear Fuzzy has a really nice place on Marco Island. 

[spe317]

1 minute ago, MikeRoberts said:

Atheist?

Unsure if this is purple font or not because mine was. 
 

Chris said he wants everyone to do what they want —-> anarchy. 
 

And if Chris is an atheist, I neither know nor care. Don’t care if he’s Christian, Sikh, Taoist, Agnostic, or Muslim. As long as he’s not Mormon…(I’m one) it’s a joke. 
 

let’s get back to tracking flights and hacking Dolson’s phone. Anyone heard anything about a new GM?

[CSP]

Just now, Hovadipo said:

Until it got in the way of hiring good coaches and instead only hiring people that thought like him. Hopefully he and Drew differ there.

hard to work with people you don't trust to begin with

[iubb]

10 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

What is wrong with being religious 

Nothing..

There is being religious, and then BEING RELIGIOUS, to the point where you try to push it onto the players/ staff etc...

 

Thats where this becomes an issue (especially with recruits) because some may find that offputting especially since there are many flavors of religion (Judaism, Islam, etc)

 

I give zero ***** about the religion/beliefs of our coach...  I just dont want them to push it on the players...

The same goes for political beliefs...  

 

 

 

[PartyintheVillas]

7 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Beard beats his girlfriend- out
Drew is too religious- out

We are covering every end of the spectrum now. I guess we are looking for an occasional church going but maybe only goes on holidays.

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Being heavily involved with religion definitely doesn't equal being morally good. I think thats one distinction some of us are kind of saying. Another is that pushing a specific flavor of religion onto others via peer pressure or team culture is not in line with the university's mission. If Drew is personally very religious, that's his choice and I support his freedom of choice. If he requires or influences the team unduly in anyway to follow his religious beliefs, then that's a problem. I have no idea if that's the case, just the arguments I'm seeing. The guy can coach though for sure.

[CSP]

Just now, PartyintheVillas said:

Being heavily involved with religion definitely doesn't equal being morally good. I think thats one distinction some of us are kind of saying. Another is that pushing a specific flavor of religion onto others via peer pressure or team culture is not in line with the university's mission.

He wins. Idgaf

[Ctf9]

Something I’ve been wondering about the revenue sharing: if IU is committed to giving such a big slice to men’s hoops, how will this affect women’s hoops and football? IU is nationally competitive in so many sports, too. Does anyone know how Cignetti or others feel about this? 

[PartyintheVillas]

1 minute ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

He wins. Idgaf

If he was a satanist and advocates human sacrifices and wins are you good with that?

[AZ Hoosier]

13 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Dolson should have a pretty good idea on whether or not he wants to take that risk after the Tom Allen era. Drew and Allen aren't much different, if they are at all, in this way.

LEO, redux

[Stuhoo]

From my own experience, this is where superior managers and leaders can get it right or get it very wrong.

Being very religious and devout is absolutely fine. Having staff (or in this case players) that are very religious or devout is absolutely fine. The trouble comes when it is perceived to be a condition for acceptance in the group or favor with the leader. 

I would have also a problem with Bruce Pearl requiring attendance at Jewish services for non-Jewish players or highlighting solely  Jewish prayers pre-game. There should be a clear message that being religious is a personal choice, not a team requirement. Once that's done? Go for it ... but on one's own time. And it's not enough to not require participation.. To have a particular religion established during team meetings creates tremendous pressure for the players of a different religion to not rock the boat, but that doesn't make them any less uncomfortable.

So a guy like Drew would and should adjust at a public university that has no established religious affiliation. This is some really tricky stuff if there is not forethought and handled correctly. FWIW;  I have no doubt that Drew is really smart and perfectly capable of handling this correctly.

[lillurk]

6 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

I'm sure it's rather common knowledge but Fuzzy and Ned are pretty close "buds"

 

Salute, actually didn’t know this though I know where Fuzzy’s from. How’s he feel about IU hoops?

[Hovadipo]

1 minute ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

hard to work with people you don't trust to begin with

Running off good coaches and staff that didn't share his beliefs expedited his firing, so I'm not sure if that's the way to go. Personally? I'm able to trust and work with people even if we don't think the same way. Again, I hope Drew wouldn't have that same problem.

[Pagoda]

5 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

When the dust settles and a coach is hired some on here might be disappointed with the hire and be let down however I promise you that the sun will come up the next day and after processing the hire everyone will be back on here hoping for the best and ready for this program to be turned around.    

Yea.  And no matter who it is we have to see how they actually do once they take the reins.

[Hornsby]

Don't forget the part Nothing about his coaching bothers me. But that doesn't fit the narrative 

I know that just saying there's no such thing as a perfect coach. Well stevens maybe. Bur everyone else will have some sort of issue people don't like.

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[GloryDays]

46 minutes ago, jimsorgi said:

In fairness... He received a show cause penalty from the NCAA. We couldn't have kept him if we wanted to.  

And it was a lot more than phone calls.

Lots of extracurricular activities with players going on.

Great coach but low character.

[Hornsby]

Nothing at all. I think some may fear that it will be/might be pushed within the program and be a turn off. jmo

Does he push it at Baylor? I am pretty sure many of his players over the years weren't religious. If it was an issue I'm sure it would have come out

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[Scotty R]

14 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Not a thing. I think some people just try to push it too much. I want everyone to do whatever they want. 

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