General Coach Candidate News

[GloryDays]

2 hours ago, Sandman said:

I don't get the "he would be amazing with IU's resources!" line of thinking. If the resources are so great, why haven't there been decent results over the last 25 years? Shouldn't the resources elevate even a crap coach? Or were the resources nonexistant until this year? 

Lipstick on a pig kind of thing.

[HinnyHoosier]

2 hours ago, Sandman said:

I don't get the "he would be amazing with IU's resources!" line of thinking. If the resources are so great, why haven't there been decent results over the last 25 years? Shouldn't the resources elevate even a crap coach? Or were the resources nonexistant until this year? 

The caveat to the blanket statement there is they've already shown they can do good things with less. 

And imagine Mike Woodson with, say, Northwestern's resources and basketball commitment. That's terrifying. We just saw an elevated Mike Woodson via 6 million in NIL.

[theriverpilot]

58 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Sure as heck won’t be tomorrow. Probably 3 weeks away and the Woodson is going to fumble his way into the tournament. 

Maybe I’m delusional but barely making the tournament should be a negative at a school like IU. Like you said, Woodson will probably fumble his way into the tournament this year. Three seasons ago was a play in game and a throttling by St Mary’s. Then another berth and smacked around by Miami.  Several tournament berths but unimpressive showings.

I would hope the next coach with IU’s NIL consistently has IU AT LEAST as a 5 or 6 seed in the tournament every year, which would also translate to being in the top 25 yearly and in play for B1G championships. 

Those should be the expectations, but like I said, I’m probably delusional.

 

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, theriverpilot said:

Maybe I’m delusional but barely making the tournament should be a negative at a school like IU. Like you said, Woodson will probably fumble his way into the tournament this year. Three seasons ago was a play in game and a throttling by St Mary’s. Then another berth and smacked around by Miami.  Several tournament berths but unimpressive showings.

I would hope the next coach with its NIL consistently has IU AT LEAST as a 5 or 6 seed in the tournament every year, which would also translate to being in the top 25 yearly and in play for B1G championships. 

Those should be the expectations, but like I said, I’m probably delusional.

 

I think those are normal expectations at a place like IU. 

[Silat Player]

15 minutes ago, Jet812 said:

One final trademark Woodson game - a double digit loss to a decent team on a neutral court.   

Close. But statistically, it's going to be a 15+ loss...

[Pagoda]

11 minutes ago, theriverpilot said:

Maybe I’m delusional but barely making the tournament should be a negative at a school like IU. Like you said, Woodson will probably fumble his way into the tournament this year. Three seasons ago was a play in game and a throttling by St Mary’s. Then another berth and smacked around by Miami.  Several tournament berths but unimpressive showings.

I would hope the next coach with its NIL consistently has IU AT LEAST as a 5 or 6 seed in the tournament every year, which would also translate to being in the top 25 yearly and in play for B1G championships. 

Those should be the expectations, but like I said, I’m probably delusional.

 

I think that's fair, though personally I'm fine with down years being worse than that as long as there is a reason (injuries, bad luck, etc.) and there is a clear plan for improvement with incoming recruits, new assistants, and/or a strategy change.

I think it's a good sign IU and Scott made it clear limping into the tourney this year after imploding last year isn't good enough given the significant resources provided to the program.  I also think the poor effort and incompetence behind the scenes factored into Woody getting fired, which is good too.

[HinnyHoosier]

7 minutes ago, theriverpilot said:

Maybe I’m delusional but barely making the tournament should be a negative at a school like IU. Like you said, Woodson will probably fumble his way into the tournament this year. Three seasons ago was a play in game and a throttling by St Mary’s. Then another berth and smacked around by Miami.  Several tournament berths but unimpressive showings.

I would hope the next coach with IU’s NIL consistently has IU AT LEAST as a 5 or 6 seed in the tournament every year, which would also translate to being in the top 25 yearly and in play for B1G championships. 

Those should be the expectations, but like I said, I’m probably delusional.

 

It's not delusional because there are multiple programs who are achieving those expectations yearly. Only people without competitive standards would consider that too high of a bar.

[TadQueasy]

2 hours ago, Sandman said:

I don't get the "he would be amazing with IU's resources!" line of thinking. If the resources are so great, why haven't there been decent results over the last 25 years? Shouldn't the resources elevate even a crap coach? Or were the resources nonexistant until this year? 

The current landscape of NIL has completely changed the resources conversation.  So bringing up anything about resources over the last 25 years is really pointless.  Now obviously resources does not guarantee success.   But there is no doubt whoever the next coach of IU is will have the best resources of any coach Indiana has seen in the post Knight era.  

[Solsberryberries]

1 hour ago, go iu bb said:

Maybe May just wanted to stay at UM or maybe he never wanted the IU job.

This.

An immediate family of mine who is high up in a Power 5 athletic department told me last year May didn’t want the job.  They share a close common friend.

May’s immediate family was telling people last fall that he isn’t coming to IU.

All signs point to May carving his own path that likely won’t include IU.

[theriverpilot]

6 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

I think that's fair, though personally I'm fine with down years being worse than that as long as there is a reason (injuries, bad luck, etc.) and there is a clear path to improvement with incoming recruits, new assistants, or a strategy change.

I think it's a good sign IU and Scott made it clear limping into the tourney this year after imploding last year isn't good enough given the significant resources provided to the program.  I also think the poor effort and incompetence behind the scenes factored into Woody getting fired, which is good too.

And totally agree there will be a “bad” year in there with injuries and such. But a competent coach will usually overcome those and pull off a 20+ win season

[Hornsby]

The caveat to the blanket statement there is they've already shown they can do good things with less. 
And imagine Mike Woodson with, say, Northwestern's resources and basketball commitment. That's terrifying. We just saw an elevated Mike Woodson via 6 million in NIL.

Imagine Woodson pre nil.

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[AZ Hoosier]

29 minutes ago, Jet812 said:

One final trademark Woodson game - a double digit loss to a decent team on a neutral court.   

Double tech... checks out early.

[Muskie plays the four]

45 minutes ago, Solsberryberries said:

This.

An immediate family of mine who is high up in a Power 5 athletic department told me last year May didn’t want the job.  They share a close common friend.

May’s immediate family was telling people last fall that he isn’t coming to IU.

All signs point to May carving his own path that likely won’t include IU.

My Dusty connection had said that his mother and sister would much rather he stay at Michigan so  that they would  enjoy being able to go out and eat 

[Hornsby]

My Dusty connection had said that his mother and sister would much rather he stay at Michigan that they enjoy being able to go out and eat 

You need the killer mentality to succeed at iu. That's why sampson would have killed it here if not for text messages. This isn't a job for laid back nice guys.

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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

4 hours ago, iu eyedoc said:

Happy March 2nd 3pm public announcement foxsports Day Eve everyone.

Which time zone?

[GloryDays]

1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Many of said they'd prefer someone who would be of a long term nature and I just don't see Stevens doing that so as much as I hate using the word,, yes, a bridge hire.

The problem with that is what happens to the fan base with the next hire. After he walks on water no mortal man will be able to duplicate his accomplishments. Seriously though why would Brad leave the situation he's in now knowing what would be expected and the pressure us maniacs would put him under?

 

 Before you guys jump my @$$ just know there's a little sarcasm mixed in the post.

 

[OKHOOSIER]

20 minutes ago, Muskie plays the four said:

My Dusty connection had said that his mother and sister would much rather he stay at Michigan that they enjoy being able to go out and eat 

I thought about this a lot being how close his family is. Being the HC at IU is hard enough on families if the coach is good, much less failing, but at least they get fired and everyone leaves. If Dusty came and failed it would be much different being essentially from IU. I don’t think it’s illogical at all that he wouldn’t want it right now while building his resume. To me, it feels like if Dusty has a strong career for 10 years or so, then he might feel secure enough to come home. I dunno, just my opinion. 

[Solsberryberries]

24 minutes ago, Muskie plays the four said:

My Dusty connection had said that his mother and sister would much rather he stay at Michigan that they enjoy being able to go out and eat 

Same

[cleeter]

Call me crazy about being a Brad believer, but man, I would highly assume that with the friendship Dolson and Brad assumingely have, wouldn’t he have said no already or not leave Scott hanging unless he was seriously considering it. The longer it goes, the better our chances get? Would that be fair to say?


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[MikeRoberts]

31 minutes ago, woodenshoemanHoosierfan said:

Which time zone?

He was vague so he bought himself a 3 hour window.

if nothing tomorrow then for sure on Tuesday as behindthe bench’s 10 business days are up

happy Sunday and Tuesday myth busting