Popular Post Uspshoosier Posted February 28 Popular Post Posted February 28 11 minutes ago, TheDMV said: I’m genuinely curious/ confused by the reaction to sharing that news. Nothing to be confused about. People don’t want him. at least not on this free message board. Might have better luck on a different free message board Pagoda, taco corp, Jeff Flabjohns and 5 others 8
Uspshoosier Posted February 28 Posted February 28 4 minutes ago, TheDMV said: How’s that relevant to a Pom rating? It’s all opponent adjusted data. Quality of opponent absolutely matters in the rating. Beating up LMU, Pacific, etc doesn’t really matter to me to bolster up their POM. It’s how you do against the teams with actual pulses and since BYU joined the conference even with him coaching they never sniffed winning the conference title or conference tourney title. Still got owned by St Mary’s and Zags. They were supposed to challenge those to when they came over from their other conference
LamarCheeks Posted February 28 Posted February 28 MJ seeing that we might be considering Mark Turgeon ... theriverpilot, Muskie plays the four, moyemayhem and 1 other 2 2
Bowhunter Posted February 28 Posted February 28 Looks like Oltz is a no now so my new list has changed. May - X Oltz -X Drew Pearl - let’s Win Baby! Pitino - let’s win Baby! MikeRoberts and Herotime 2
hoopsta007 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 I would almost guarantee we didn’t retire Woodson to go after Mark Turgeon. If he turns out to be the guy then we missed on numerous other candidates HoosierDevils, Chris007, #1fanofafrin and 4 others 7
TheDMV Posted February 28 Posted February 28 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: Quality of opponent absolutely matters in the rating. Beating up LMU, Pacific, etc doesn’t really matter to me to bolster up their POM. It’s how you do against the teams with actual pulses and since BYU joined the conference even with him coaching they never sniffed winning the conference title or conference tourney title. Still got owned by St Mary’s and Zags. They were supposed to challenge those to when they came over from their other conference Wait you really don’t know how Pom works do you I digress. The point is that Pope made a lot of sense for UK, and so they didn’t have to go beyond him. Edited February 28 by TheDMV Ryno6284 1
HoosierSadaseci Posted February 28 Posted February 28 31 minutes ago, TheDMV said: UK and UL had better options who happened to be available and looking last cycle. There’s no question that if this search happened last year, IU would’ve hired Dusty in two seconds and it never gets to a discussion with the next level down in candidates. We don't even truly know all the legit candidates for IU yet...but I can assure you there will be better options than Turgeon... VFury, skhoosier2, thebigweave and 2 others 5
FortWayneHoosier Posted February 28 Posted February 28 7 minutes ago, TheDMV said: Wait you really don’t know how Pom works do you I digress. The point is that Pope made a lot of sense for UK, and so they didn’t have to go beyond him. Your time is better spent staring at the wall and watching paint dry my man. VFury, thebigweave, HoosierSadaseci and 2 others 4 1
DougJr74 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 21 minutes ago, TheDMV said: simply because 1) I know there have been discussions and 2) I’m genuinely curious/ confused by the reaction to sharing that news. I think you’re the only person who cares and wants to talk about him. Didn’t like him while he was at Maryland and I don’t like him now. No thanks. pumpfake and VFury 2
Popular Post Uspshoosier Posted February 28 Popular Post Posted February 28 1 hour ago, TheDMV said: Wait you really don’t know how Pom works do you I digress. The point is that Pope made a lot of sense for UK, and so they didn’t have to go beyond him. I definitely know how it works. I also know that actual results on the court matter as well. If you think Kentucky started out being fine with Pope I’m not sure what to tell you. You want people to believe that Kentucky went into last coaching cycle being fine with a coach that at the WCC level didn’t win and conference championship or conference tourney. Lost as a 6 seed (conference season was shortened) to an 11 seeded ucla team, missed the next 2 tourneys. Moved to the Big 12 where they gamed the NET and smashed a bunch of terrible teams early to inflate their predictive metrics (I know a little about metrics) and then held on for dear life in the Big 12 conference to get a 6 seed in the tourney where their proceeded to lose in the first round to Duquesne that had to win their conference tourney just to make it. I love mark Pope as coach but for anyone to say that Kentucky of all places were fine bringing him in as their first choice as coach is mistaken kottke, pumpfake, str8baller and 12 others 13 1 1
Uspshoosier Posted February 28 Posted February 28 32 minutes ago, TheDMV said: But the admin did! And the fans were clearly wrong about him… After getting through 6 people who said no. Maybe the IU admin will get to your guy after 25 others say no Home Jersey, VFury, RaceToTheTop and 2 others 5
Golfman25 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 3 hours ago, Demo said: Would be curious to see that as well. He was K’s lead recruiter for years, though if you can’t get kids to play for K that would be kind of an indictment. Would also love to know how restricting their academic standards are. For a guy from Chicago at a Chicago area school I don’t think he recruits that many Chicago area kids Their academic standards are impossible. Most kids from Chicago area school can’t even sniff NW cause most Chicago area schools suck. You’re basically looking at Ivy League talent.
Popular Post RaceToTheTop Posted February 28 Popular Post Posted February 28 21 minutes ago, TheDMV said: Wait you really don’t know how Pom works do you I digress. The point is that Pope made a lot of sense for UK, and so they didn’t have to go beyond him. You think USPS doesn’t know how Pom works? go sell crazy elsewhere. We’re all full up here. Muskie plays the four, Home Jersey, thebigweave and 14 others 9 2 6
DLG3 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 It’s starting to feel like this could very well mirror the searches of UofL and UK. Which, if you think about it, is probably the most logical outcome. I still would love to think that the IU job is appealing to a big name, but I’m starting to have my doubts. I’m sure those two schools thought the same with their considerable resources. If so, I guess whatever. As USPS has said, as long as he’s a grinder. Tired of IU basketball being associated with laziness and the definition of insanity. Give me a coach who is hungry. And yes, I’m still bitter about the Dusty thing, in case anyone is wondering. Hope it doesn’t haunt IU. Uspshoosier, Muskie plays the four, Mopladysman and 2 others 4 1
RaceToTheTop Posted February 28 Posted February 28 Odds that dmv is mark turgeon’s agent? Bowhunter, go iu bb and thebigweave 2 1
Mr. Hoosier Pride Posted February 28 Posted February 28 We don't even truly know all the legit candidates for IU yet...but I can assure you there will be better options than Turgeon...The last hire was a washed up coach with a mediocre at best record who NOBODY was pursuing for their HC position. That obviously worked so well that SD is thinking, "Let's go that route again!"? I'm with you... there's dozens of better options than Turgeon. Sent from my SM-S908U using Tapatalk AZ Hoosier and HoosierSadaseci 1 1
Hoosierfan1901 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 1 minute ago, southernindianahoosier2 said: Did I miss anything today? No WRSMick55, Stuhoo, OKHOOSIER and 3 others 6
Golfman25 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 3 hours ago, VFury said: No, obviously I don't. Which is why I said I didn't. A 37% won rate doesn't magically turn into 70% just because the recruiting standards change. Great players make great coaches. Recruiting standards are everything when competing in the power conferences. In order for NW to compete that have to find basketball players with power conference talent and 4.0 gpa and 1500 SAT scores. That’s a needle in a haystack. woodenshoemanHoosierfan 1
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