General Coach Candidate News

[iu eyedoc]

7 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

Didn’t say it did. It changes Dusty’s interest in IU. He didn’t need to sign an extension mid season, he chose to. If he was in bed with IU he wouldn’t have signed it

 

There are 4 possibilities

IU has their man

IU was never interested in Dusty

Dusty was never interested in IU

IU has shown interest but not absolutely and Dusty signed a non prohibitive extension for financial security.

But a meager pay bump and 1 more year did not does not" he’s signed a big extension and almost all but eliminated" make.

[iubb]

The coaching search in Video form:

just replace "are we there yet?"
WITH
"DO WE HAVE A COACH YET?"

[Chris007]

6 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

No one really knows a damn thing.  The only real certainty is that we were never getting Stevens.  No one should be surprised with any other possibility.  Kind of fun actually.

Don't forget to add we are never hiring Chris Beard. 

[Kentuckysucks]

Just now, iu eyedoc said:

 

There are 4 possibilities

IU has their man

IU was never interested in Dusty

Dusty was never interested in IU

IU has shown interest but not absolutely and Dusty signed a non prohibitive extension for financial security.

But a meager pay bump and 1 more year did not does not" he’s signed a big extension and almost all but eliminated" make.

Very possible that Dolson does have his guy and that Dusty was never the #2.  

[Kentuckysucks]

Just now, Chris007 said:

Don't forget to add we are never hiring Chris Beard. 

That’s likely correct unfortunately.

[Demo]

Dolson’s a smart guy and with basically a year to prep I find it impossible to believe that the plan is a guy who ain’t comin’, a guy who ain’t comin’ and a guy who probably ain’t comin’. Sure, take the big swings if you need to, but then get into your actual process and nail down your guy. And it’s gonna take a minute. The downside of Woody not making it to the end of the year is the giant information vacuum that we’re going to spend the next 6-8 weeks filling with our angst and insanity. But they’ll get a good dude. They will. Not concerned about the size of the name.

[Sobchak_Security]

16 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

WHY WON'T ANYONE DISCUSS LUKE MURRAY OR ALEX BARLOW?

I asked y'all to do that super nicely! 

 

:)

Luke Murray no HC experience.  No way Dolson rolls the dice on that at this stage.

 

Alex Barlow I’ve never heard of

[Home Jersey]

Gotta give you guys credit. After the past two seasons I just can’t get myself to parse every bit of available info and try to piece together a narrative that understands what’s going on right now behind the scenes. Just passing the time til the end of the first weekend of the tournament. If we don’t have news in exactly a month I will start getting a bit concerned. 

[BBTB]

I have a question why is the -IU  basketball called a fishbowl  ? I don't recall that being said about any other school unless I am totally out of the loop ( like say Duke or UNC ) 

[IUHoosierJoe]

I don’t remember who posted it right after the Woodson retirement was announced, but one of our insiders said this coaching search will feature a lot of denials, smokescreens, and misdirections.  Certainly, that seems to be holding true.  Probably many more to come before it’s over.

[iubb]

2 minutes ago, Demo said:

Dolson’s a smart guy and with basically a year to prep I find it impossible to believe that the plan is a guy who ain’t comin’, a guy who ain’t comin’ and a guy who probably ain’t comin’. Sure, take the big swings if you need to, but then get into your actual process and nail down your guy. And it’s gonna take a minute. The downside of Woody not making it to the end of the year is the giant information vacuum that we’re going to spend the next 6-8 weeks filling with our angst and insanity. But they’ll get a good dude. They will. Not concerned about the size of the name.

Are you sure about that?

What if we hired:
 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubert_Blaine_Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenbergerdorff_Sr.

[Capt. Crimson]

The far and away most logical reason why May signed that extension is because...
He really, really wants to be the Michigan Head Coach for a very long time.

Devils advocate: didn’t Dusty sign a 10 year deal with FAU right after his final 4 run?


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[Uspshoosier]

IU is the highest profile job available.  It would seem the AD would have had plenty of time preparing for the coaches exit since he was close to leaving last year.    If you think he put his eggs in one or 2 baskets knowing the job would become available I think that the wrong read of the situation.   With it being the best available sitting coaches are going to want  a shot at the job.  That can’t happen until after their season.   My read is the AD has well thought out plan on who he wants to coach next year and he has had plenty of time to prepare that plan.   In my opinion he will be going after a high major coach with Midwest ties.   If they say no then he will go with a mid major coach with Midwest ties.   If the coach is not playing in the tourney then it will be announced after the conference tourneys and if he is coaching in the ncaa tourney it will be announced a couple days after the loss.  Just my opinion 

[Ctf9]

The key thing about May, if he’s the caliber of person we all think he is, isn’t the new buyout but the comments he made after the deal:

"I think it makes it obvious: I'm staying at Michigan," May told CBS Sports

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/dusty-may-michigan-agree-to-contract-extension-amid-indiana-basketball-coaching-search/amp/
 

I have no idea how IU or other candidates factored into this, but he’s clearly not coming now. 

[IUHoosierJoe]

2 minutes ago, iubb said:

Are you sure about that?

What if we hired:
 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubert_Blaine_Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenbergerdorff_Sr.

We actually recruited him when he was a player.  He’s why we don’t put names on the jerseys.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

19 minutes ago, pumpfake said:

Absolutely.  Until we start bringing in top talent across the board like the elite teams, we'll struggle against real title contenders.  Even if we never do (how many elite cfb teams are there?) - being a very good, top 1/3 of the conference team, year in and year out, would still be a fantastic improvement.

Protecting our home court would be a fantastic improvement given Woody's lost 15 times in SSAH.

[mdiu28]

2 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

Devils advocate: didn’t Dusty sign a 10 year deal with FAU right after his final 4 run?


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Yep.

https://fausports.com/news/2023/4/8/mens-basketball-florida-atlantic-signs-dusty-may-to-10-year-extension.aspx

[EasyEJay]

Cabin fever will be at its peak both today and tomorrow (at least we have the game as a distraction for better or worse!) 

im guessing Thursday or Friday will be big days . Most likely will get something from the Insiders as Saturday and Sunday get closer . 
 

Either them pumping up the announcement , or they are now “delaying the announcement” due to IUs recent success and possible tournament berth , or will tell us the “reasoning of how it has now fallen apart” and IU is moving on . 

Edited February 25 by EasyEJay
Grammer

[lillurk]

1 minute ago, BBTB said:

I have a question why is the -IU  basketball called a fishbowl  ? I don't recall that being said about any other school unless I am totally out of the loop ( like say Duke or UNC ) 

Good question — genuinely don’t think there’s a good reason, especially now that football’s good.

Like the real reason is that IU…

1. Should’ve handled the Knight departure differently, then

2. Was genuinely put in a bad place by a good thing (‘02 runner-up finish) and did what they probably had to do; stuck with Davis.

3. Then the President overruled the AD to hire Sampson, a great coach who should’ve known better.

4. The Sampson mess meant IU did probably as well as they could to get Crean, and he ran his course for reasons both outside and inside his control.

5. Archie was a defensible pick in a bad cycle but turned out about as bad as we could’ve imagined.

6. And of course Woodson hasn’t worked out, though the extent to which that’s the case is somewhat overstated.

But if IU handles #1 better, or doesn’t get to the ‘02 final, or picks Beilein instead of Sampson, or Hulls isn’t hurt and can thus shoot in the ‘13 S16 and Crean proceeds differently thereafter, or any number of other things go differently, the last 25 years are better, more consistent, and nobody calls it a “fishbowl”

[southernindianahoosier2]

Based on what SS said today in the Trilly chat…. Sounds like 1 of 2 possibilities.

1. Dolson fired woody because he has his guy and has been working for about a year behind the scenes very calculated and nothing is leaking, like how Cig was only mentioned right before the announcement (Stevens).

2. Stevens said “no”, Dusty May unexpectedly said “no”, and were on candidate 3 Drew, and if he says “no” then it moves to the Otz and Mccollum types. 
 

3. If we get 1-4 more “no”s then this could end badly unless we hold our noses and hire beard