General Coach Candidate News

[AKHoosier]

For the life of me, I can't figure out how someone wouldn't be ecstatic over Dusty May. 

Built a totally nonexistent program into 2 NCAAT appearances including a Final 4 run.

Then takes over a team that won 8 games last year and is now on track to win the B1G conference. Primed for a deep tournament run.

The fact he's an Indiana native and was a student manager under Knight is just the cherry on top.

[Juwan Moye]

3 minutes ago, lillurk said:

Two years ago at FAU he finished Kenpom 17 (UM is currently 22nd), final 4, 35-4; last year they were KP 47, basically a miracle at FAU.

Oh, no one has to convince me that May can coach. I’d be happy with him for sure.

I just put myself in Dolsons shoes and recognize there’s more risk there than with some other realistic hires. May obviously has a ton of upside though and could be a long-term solution.

[CSP]

22 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

Yeah,  kinda meh, but if he was a little more consistent, like say 2 sweet 16's  and a Final Four in 3 of the 4 years he coached there that the tournament was held, well then...checks notes.

I would still have zero interest in a guy that over 30 years has had 1 maybe 2 teams capable of winning a title. 

Hell Crean had 2 or 3 in his last 6 years here, alone. 

[RoadRage]

18 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

3 sweet 16s and 1 Elite 8.  The year he made the final 4 still counts as a sweet 16 appearance for him 

Yep, he won 2 more tournament games his first 5 years, still say he is only marginally better than a guy that everybody on this forum would agree is mediocre but the shilling continues….

[iu eyedoc]

9 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I would still have zero interest in a guy that over 30 years has had 1 maybe 2 teams capable of winning a title. 

Hell Crean had 2 or 3 in his last 6 years here, alone. 

LTFOL, over 30 yrs? Do you think he got his first HC job at 22?  It's a little early to be hitting the hard stuff.

Don't like the guy, fine, but FFS, you have not posted a single thing that is close to factual about his career.

[Hoosier Guy]

13 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

NGW was a Woodson bootlicker who'd write term paper-length posts complaining about how the fans made Woodson's job harder. He deleted his account last spring. 

He sounds just like the burner accounts that glaze Woodson.  I just don’t understand how the fans can be blamed for Woodson’s failures as a coach.  He’s terrible and no amount of fan support would change that.

[Hoosierfan2017]

4 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I would still have zero interest in a guy that over 30 years has had 1 maybe 2 teams capable of winning a title. 

Hell Crean had 2 or 3 in his last 6 years here, alone. 

Cronin hasn’t been a coach for “over 30 years.” He started coaching in 2003, and unless you want to fault him for not having a title contender at Murray State, it’s under 20 years. He made the tournament each of his last 9 years at Cincinnati. 4 in 6 years at UCLA (with it being canceled one of those years. So, he’s made the tournament 13 out of the last 15 years. IU has made it 6 out of the last 15 years. 

We’re talking about title teams when we can’t even make it to the tournament 50% of the time. Who can IU realistically hire that will be better than that? 

[CSP]

6 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

LTFOL, over 30 yrs? Do you think he got his first HC job at 22?  It's a little early to be hitting the hard stuff.

Does 22 years make it that much better? Wowza. 

Absolutely laughing you didn't comment on only having 1 or 2 capable title winning teams. 

[CSP]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Cronin hasn’t been a coach for “over 30 years.” He started coaching in 2003, and unless you want to fault him for not having a title contender at Murray State, it’s under 20 years. He made the tournament each of his last 9 years at Cincinnati. 4 in 6 years at UCLA (with it being canceled one of those years. So, he’s made the tournament 13 out of the last 15 years. IU has made it 6 out of the last 15 years. 

We’re talking about title teams when we can’t even make it to the tournament 50% of the time. Who can IU realistically hire that will be better than that? 

Good. And yes, if making the tourney is our goal, absolutely... hire Mick Cronin tomorrow. We will be in the tourney a lot. Yayyyy 

[Hoosierfan2017]

Just now, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Good. And yes, if making the tourney is our goal, absolutely... hire Mick Cronin tomorrow. We will be in the tourney a lot. Yayyyy 

Would making the tournament every year not be a significant upgrade over what we’ve dealt with the past 15+ years? It’s not the end goal, but getting in every year certainly gives you a much better shot at winning the title. 

[iu eyedoc]

5 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

This reply struggled and was rather stupid. 

Sweet Jesus. Does 22 years make it that much better? Wowza. 

22 years, 32 years, 2 Sweet 16's 4 sweet 16's and a FF

Why let facts get in the way of some good old fashion irrational dislike.

 

[Uspshoosier]

Just now, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Good. And yes, if making the tourney is our goal, absolutely... hire Mick Cronin tomorrow. We will be in the tourney a lot. Yayyyy 

Got to crawl before you can walk. That’s where some disagree.   Some think IU can skip steps and be in a position to hire a coach that can automatically put them at the head of the table.   Some think it’s going to take a process and the first step is getting a coach to stabilize a middle of the pack mediocre or under (I think IU is 25-30 games under .500 in the B1G over the last 9 years) B1G team.   Maybe it’s good to hire a coach like Cronin first to stabilize and then worrying about games past the sweet 16 later 

[CSP]

2 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

22 years, 32 years, 2 Sweet 16's 4 sweet 16's and a FF

Why let facts get in the way of some good old fashion irrational dislike.

 

What is impressive though? 

Not much 

[Chris007]

Went to bed and woke up to 4 inches of snow here in Bloomington. That wasn’t in the forecast. Did I miss anything else?

[CSP]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

Got to crawl before you can walk. That’s where some disagree.   Some think IU can skip steps and be in a position to hire a coach that can automatically put them at the head of the table.   Some think it’s going to take a process and the first step is getting a coach to stabilize a middle of the pack mediocre or under (I think IU is 25-30 games under .500 in the B1G over the last 9 years) B1G team.   Maybe it’s good to hire a coach like Cronin first to stabilize and then worrying about games past the sweet 16 later 

I'm sorry. I have no interest in this. 

5 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Would making the tournament every year not be a significant upgrade over what we’ve dealt with the past 15+ years? It’s not the end goal, but getting in every year certainly gives you a much better shot at winning the title. 

That's great. We are Iowa/Minnesota now. 

[OliviaPope40]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

Went to bed and woke up to 4 inches of snow here in Bloomington. That wasn’t in the forecast. Did I miss anything else?

I woke up to unexpected snow too. 

[AZ Hoosier]

1 hour ago, Hoosier Guy said:

Who is NGW?

Alleged to be the same guy who is Tyme on Twitter/X. And de facto leader of the Twitter/X Woodson bot army.

[Uspshoosier]

1 minute ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I'm sorry. I have no interest in this. 

That's great. We are Iowa/Minnesota now. 

You have been for awhile now 

[CSP]

Just now, Uspshoosier said:

You have been for awhile now 

Have been what? 

[IUHoosierJoe]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

Got to crawl before you can walk. That’s where some disagree.   Some think IU can skip steps and be in a position to hire a coach that can automatically put them at the head of the table.   Some think it’s going to take a process and the first step is getting a coach to stabilize a middle of the pack mediocre or under (I think IU is 25-30 games under .500 in the B1G over the last 9 years) B1G team.   Maybe it’s good to hire a coach like Cronin first to stabilize and then worrying about games past the sweet 16 later 

I think you make good points here.  The problem is, some of us older guys have lost patience and have little interest in “stabilize.”  And I think, given both the current landscape of college basketball and the resources at our disposal, it’s OK to expect more than that.  Quite frankly, I want to be sitting here 6 or 7 years from now and be thought of as one of the 6 best programs in college basketball, because that’s absolutely what we’re capable of.