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One counterpoint, however do the flights prove that the alleged Brad and Scott trip happened?

A flight from Bloomington to Albuquerque and a flight from Bedford to Albuquerque landing around the same time would be interesting. That’s what IsaacTor said they were. Two separate flights. It doesn’t prove anything but it would seem like more than a coincidence.


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2 hours ago, Pagoda said:

We don’t know what Ole Miss did.  We do know they didn’t have much to lose with their crappy bball program, so it’s easier for them to take risks.

We also have nothing to lose and have a crappy program….. beard or not…. Just putting things into perspective. 

The University and its fans continue to hold onto this outdated perception of the programs value and status in the college basketball world. We have accomplished little to nothing over the last 30+ years….. so little that the only people who view us as a blueblood are Indiana fans and people like Dick Vitale….

The elitist attitude and moral superiority of the university and fans, is frustrating. It’s really wearing thin on me, honestly. 

So many of the fans refuse to extend grace to any coach with any known past transgressions. As if they are completely irredeemable…There are people on this site who still despise Kelvin Sampson and would adamantly say they wouldn’t want him. 

I’m not calling you out individually. I appreciate a lot of your posts and perspective on most things. Again…Just exhausted from people not extending any grace to anyone that’s not a saint.

The way I see it, is that IU doesn’t have anything to lose. We are at the absolute rock bottom, when you consider our history and where we are now. We’ve won 5 titles,  haven’t won one in nearly 40 years, and have no legitimate reasons to believe we will be able to compete for one in the next 2-5 years….. or beyond… unless this hire is absolutely nailed. 
 

If we hire a guy that’s is clearly below Beards level, than I personally don’t know that I’ll be able to give much more attention and support to the program. It will be officially dead to me. I’m sick of the false hope. I need to see action at this point. 
 

Respect to anyone who sees it differently. 
 

 

 

 


 

 

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5 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

I will post this in here as well as the college basketball thread 

tomorrow games that might interest some in this thread 

St Johns/Creighton 

Bradley/Drake 

Not really!  Oh, you didn’t mean just me!  lol 

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4 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said:

We also have nothing to lose and have a crappy program….. beard or not…. Just putting things into perspective. 

The University and its fans continue to hold onto this outdated perception of the programs value and status in the college basketball world. We have accomplished little to nothing over the last 30+ years….. so little that the only people who view us as a blueblood are Indiana fans and people like Dick Vitale….

The elitist attitude and moral superiority of the university and fans, is frustrating. It’s really wearing thin on me, honestly. 

So many of the fans refuse to extend grace to any coach with any known past transgressions. As if they are completely irredeemable…There are people on this site who still despise Kelvin Sampson and would adamantly say they wouldn’t want him. 

I’m not calling you out individually. I appreciate a lot of your posts and perspective on most things. Again…Just exhausted from people not extending any grace to anyone that’s not a saint.

The way I see it, is that IU doesn’t have anything to lose. We are at the absolute rock bottom, when you consider our history and where we are now. We’ve won 5 titles,  haven’t won one in nearly 40 years, and have no legitimate reasons to believe we will be able to compete for one in the next 2-5 years….. or beyond… unless this hire is absolutely nailed. 
 

If we hire a guy that’s is clearly below Beards level, than I personally don’t know that I’ll be able to give much more attention and support to the program. It will be officially dead to me. I’m sick of the false hope. I need to see action at this point. 
 

Respect to anyone who sees it differently. 
 

 

 

 


 

 

I with you brother!  This holier than thou hasn’t gotten us anywhere.  Sometimes you just need to take a chance on someone because that chance could make a big difference and change them for the better.  Nobody is perfect and we all should not cast stones in glass houses!

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35 minutes ago, monskisprodigy said:

Haven’t been able to keep up…but I log in to see talks of breaking bad sets, trips to New Mexico. 

Trying to determine if this is serious…what did I miss?

I’m hoping this is all true because it would be the stuff of legend!!

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Also….I need to ask this, because we are going to get absolutely torched, on a national level, if this breaking bad rumor ever sees the light of day, outside of the Indiana fan sphere………….. Has anyone taken the time to vet this IsaacTor fella? 
 

Once the outside catches wind, it’s going to be a major embarrassment. I can see the barstool Twitter account headline, making fun of us all, right now. 

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12 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said:

We also have nothing to lose and have a crappy program….. beard or not…. Just putting things into perspective. 

The University and its fans continue to hold onto this outdated perception of the programs value and status in the college basketball world. We have accomplished little to nothing over the last 30+ years….. so little that the only people who view us as a blueblood are Indiana fans and people like Dick Vitale….

The elitist attitude and moral superiority of the university and fans, is frustrating. It’s really wearing thin on me, honestly. 

So many of the fans refuse to extend grace to any coach with any known past transgressions. As if they are completely irredeemable…There are people on this site who still despise Kelvin Sampson and would adamantly say they wouldn’t want him. 

I’m not calling you out individually. I appreciate a lot of your posts and perspective on most things. Again…Just exhausted from people not extending any grace to anyone that’s not a saint.

The way I see it, is that IU doesn’t have anything to lose. We are at the absolute rock bottom, when you consider our history and where we are now. We’ve won 5 titles,  haven’t won one in nearly 40 years, and have no legitimate reasons to believe we will be able to compete for one in the next 2-5 years….. or beyond… unless this hire is absolutely nailed. 
 

If we hire a guy that’s is clearly below Beards level, than I personally don’t know that I’ll be able to give much more attention and support to the program. It will be officially dead to me. I’m sick of the false hope. I need to see action at this point. 
 

Respect to anyone who sees it differently. 
 

 

 

 


 

 

Outstanding my dude. Was just thinking the exact same thing on the can earlier. If they don't nail this hire with a proven winner and end up with another Miller situation, I'll be done for sure. They'll have to bulldoze AH to the ground just to remove the stink of IU basketballs rotting carcass if they don't right the ship soon.

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