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1 hour ago, HinnyHoosier said:

It's Mick Cronin Day everyone!

 

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We should definetly take a guy who has less commits for next season then the guy getting fired

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2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

He is 3rd on the latest hot board released so something has happened to push in to 3rd when he wasn’t on the first 2 hot boards 

Who's hot board are we talking about?

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Here’s the problem with May now: 
 
He is doing great. UM wants to redo his contract, no doubt in part because IU has an opening. May and his agent probably realize they are #2 on IUs list at best. They also know that the minute somebody else takes the IU job his leverage on this new deal with UM decreases quite a bit. 
 
So Mays agent is going to be pushing hard for them to get this new deal done before the IU job is filled. I’m sure he’d like to wait and see if the IU job slips to him, but he also risks quite a bit of leverage (ie money) if he doesn’t hammer it out before the end of the season and IU announces Stevens or whomever.   
 
Just a stone cold guess, but I would say there’s only a 50% chance Mays agent doesn’t get this new deal done—thus taking him off the market—before IU is ready to make a hire. 
I laugh from the jump at people thinking we were getting dusty. I always felt he was a far longer shot than stevens. They will give him a bigger contract. He isn't leaving already imo

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6 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Cignetti was a P5 assistant coach for many years, including for Nick Saban at Alabama!

McCollum has never been a division one assistant coach. If McCollum had been a multi year assistant coach for Coach K, then this would be a completely different discussion and he would be a great candidate.

I’m very torn on McCollum. If it’s not Brad, Dusty, Oats (highly unlikely), there’s part of me that’s thinking let’s roll the dice with McCollum. I have a weakness for the young coach who can be here 20+ years.

However, as we all know, they absolutely can’t mess this hire up. He’s a pretty big gamble, but could also be a grand slam.

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1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

Bad fit maybe.    Since then he went to Creighton and the Big East which is a Power 4 conference and has won consistently.    

What about ISU made it a bad fit?  Do the same conditions exist at IU?

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1 hour ago, Juwan Moye said:

To the point:

Yes, Cignetti was a great hire and showed some coaches can make the leap from lower level competition to higher level competition. But this isn’t definitive and is not indicative of how we should pursue our basketball hire.

The football program has always been a laughing stock whereas, at least historically, the basketball program is top tier. This is why the approach should be different and IU should start at the absolutely highest level when considering candidates.

Too often schools and pro teams try to do copycat hires. "Coach Cig was super successful so let's find a basketball version of Cig!" Juwan Howard had a nice start at Michigan, so schools (including IU) said "we need to find our version of Juwan." We didn't set out to hire Woodson but Howard's success gave more credence to his candidacy when other names fell away. Both Howard and Woodson have now flamed out. 

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15 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

If you only want coaches who won a title that are on the move, who you want?  Pretty small list.

Just a sarcastic comment on the over the top love for Stevens.  There are plenty of guys who could do the job.  
 

My real concern with Stevens his whether he really wants to do it,   2 weeks to decide is too long.  

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18 minutes ago, kottke said:

I’m very torn on McCollum. If it’s not Brad, Dusty, Oats (highly unlikely), there’s part of me that’s thinking let’s roll the dice with McCollum. I have a weakness for the young coach who can be here 20+ years.

However, as we all know, they absolutely can’t mess this hire up. He’s a pretty big gamble, but could also be a grand slam.

Well then...

  • McCollum had a 395-91 D2 record - 81% winning
  • There's another young coach now in D1 that had a 337-69 record in D2 - 83% winning
    • AND had a 32 win season in Division 1 last year, in the same conference that McCollum is in
    • And has stepped up a level this year and is 14-10, 7-4 (for a team that was 13-20, 5-13 the year before he got there) in a much tougher conference.

So tell me, why in the hell is Ben McCollum a better candidate than Josh Schertz? (Answer: He's not).

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Can any McCollum fan tell me if his D2 teams ever took 25ish 3s a game? I know someone will say it doesn’t matter he just wins but i think that does matter at higher levels.  I’ll be hoping he changes his coaching style if not and I’m kind of tired of that

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