General Coach Candidate News

[HoosierAloha 30,092]

I honestly don't care who the next coach is as long as they win and don't get too far into the much.

[JudahRMK 173]

42 minutes ago, Treesh said:

What did we pay $10 million dollars for? We're going to find out. A booster gave his money with insurance knowing we were going to get someone. (I'd hope he's/she's smart enough)

I just don't know folks. I really think we should've kept Archie until we had a solid answer from Brad. Maybe he said No a month ago? Maybe Scott is indeed waiting for the tournament to be over? Maybe our candidate is still coaching

I'm expecting we'll have our next coach by this time next week. There as no need to fire Archie this early unless that booster was really just careless with his money. 

Cam is probably still counting money while reading all this with a slight grin on his face 

[Trish 12,696]

1 minute ago, JudahRMK said:

Cam is probably still counting money while reading all this with a slight grin on his face 

He's got a fat cigar in his mouth looking at the Brad Stevens thread laughing his @$$ off. 

[NashvilleHoosier 3,815]

My biggest fear now is that going all in on BS (which I’m glad we gave it a shot) ends up backfiring with other candidates. Anybody connected with basketball has watched this play out to some extent. It’s no secret our choice was Brad Stevens and the entire fan base was behind it. Will other top coaches who may have had interest now hesitate knowing they are at best the distant second choice and that they’ll never be Brad Stevens? 

[ap2345 10,237]

8 minutes ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

My biggest fear now is that going all in on BS (which I’m glad we gave it a shot) ends up backfiring with other candidates. Anybody connected with basketball has watched this play out to some extent. It’s no secret our choice was Brad Stevens and the entire fan base was behind it. Will other top coaches who may have had interest now hesitate knowing they are at best the distant second choice and that they’ll never be Brad Stevens? 

They won’t care for the right price. Plus they’ll want to be the coach that fixed Indiana. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 49,830]

Indiana basketball has been digging its grave one shovel full at a time for 20 years. We need a miracle folks. Fortunately, I believe in miracles. Batter up!


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[BayernFan 25]

Now that the BS is over, what will happen?  Donors are saying wtf.  $10 million for what? To get jerked around for two months?

So Dolson will go and get a REAL Indiana guy that the donors will LOVE.
 

Keith Smart 

Way better than BS anyway  

jmo 

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[Go_Hoosiers 191]

Anyone who spends the first 35 years of their life in Indiana and then moves to Boston and declares themselves a “Masshole” can kick rocks and shouldn’t be the head coach at IU. Let’s go find a better coach for IU.

[jmsgws 2,181]

1 hour ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

My biggest fear now is that going all in on BS (which I’m glad we gave it a shot) ends up backfiring with other candidates. Anybody connected with basketball has watched this play out to some extent. It’s no secret our choice was Brad Stevens and the entire fan base was behind it. Will other top coaches who may have had interest now hesitate knowing they are at best the distant second choice and that they’ll never be Brad Stevens? 

What is there to backfire?  It is only people like us message boards that are making a big stink over Stevens.  To the rest of the world, it is a non issue.  IU tried to hire him, and he didn't want to come.  This same scenario plays out during every coaching search.  

[BottomLine 689]

1 hour ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

My biggest fear now is that going all in on BS (which I’m glad we gave it a shot) ends up backfiring with other candidates. Anybody connected with basketball has watched this play out to some extent. It’s no secret our choice was Brad Stevens and the entire fan base was behind it. Will other top coaches who may have had interest now hesitate knowing they are at best the distant second choice and that they’ll never be Brad Stevens? 

Wouldn't give a second thought to being second choice for a destination job.  Indiana has the fan base, facilities, money, and tradition to be a top job.  It is located in a state that is a hot bed for basketball.  The University has been there and done that numerous times in the past and has the potential to do it all over again.  All it is waiting for is the right person to wake up the sleeping tiger.  Second choice?  So what?  If I were a coach and thought I had the gonads to take IU back to the top, I'd jump at the opportunity.

[NashvilleHoosier 3,815]

12 minutes ago, jmsgws said:

What is there to backfire?  It is only people like us message boards that are making a big stink over Stevens.  To the rest of the world, it is a non issue.  IU tried to hire him, and he didn't want to come.  This same scenario plays out during every coaching search.  

It may not. I hope it doesn’t. But it wasn’t just message board chatter. Plenty is social media chatter with national media chiming in. Any other coach’s circle will be aware that we put all our eggs in the Stevens basket. They may not care. But if I’ve got things going at another school, I’d be hesitant to take over a place that I know everyone wanted someone else to that degree.

[Travis Scott 251]

Do we know for certain Stevens was even who we were going after? After today nothing is real :)

[cleeter 2,738]

Wouldn't give a second thought to being second choice for a destination job.  Indiana has the fan base, facilities, money, and tradition to be a top job.  It is located in a state that is a hot bed for basketball.  The University has been there and done that numerous times in the past and has the potential to do it all over again.  All it is waiting for is the right person to wake up the sleeping tiger.  Second choice?  So what?  If I were a coach and thought I had the gonads to take IU back to the top, I'd jump at the opportunity.

If I myself and another guy applied for a job and said company picked him over me but said guy decided to stay where he was so they then offered it to me (the backup plan) I’d be all for it. I got the job so I’m good. Basically just a long drawn out way to say “agreed”


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[WayneFleekHoosier 49,830]

Can we hire a Nike or Adidas representative as head coach and just funnel 5 million to the players. We’d be Kentucky and Duke just like that.


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[ap2345 10,237]

Go get Slick Rick at this point 

[Hardwood83 4,834]

1 minute ago, ap2345 said:

Go get Slick Rick at this point 

Same age as Beilein with 0.0006% of the character. Hard pass. I would root against IU. Pitinio is a piece of crap. 

[NashvilleHoosier 3,815]

41 minutes ago, cleeter said:

If I myself and another guy applied for a job and said company picked him over me but said guy decided to stay where he was so they then offered it to me (the backup plan) I’d be all for it. I got the job so I’m good. Basically just a long drawn out way to say “agreed”


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I get what people are saying but this isn’t the scenario. It would be more like you wanted to apply for the job but they didn’t let you b/c the one the wanted was the other person. All the employees of the company were ecstatic about this other person coming and made it known. A bunch of industry folks were talking about this other person coming to to take the job. The company and its employees were all in on the other person. The other person didn’t take it. You are extremely successful at your current job and compensated very well. Your coworkers love you and don’t want you to leave. Your company performs better than the other one. Is the other job as attractive as you thought it was? 

[Capt. Crimson 3,732]

Hey the coach from North Texas can beat Purdue


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[cleeter 2,738]

I get what people are saying but this isn’t the scenario. It would be more like you wanted to apply for the job but they didn’t let you b/c the one the wanted was the other person. All the employees of the company were ecstatic about this other person coming and made it known. A bunch of industry folks were talking about this other person coming to to take the job. The company and its employees were all in on the other person. The other person didn’t take it. You are extremely successful at your current job and compensated very well. Your coworkers love you and don’t want you to leave. Your company performs better than the other one. Is the other job as attractive as you thought it was? 

Touche my friend. Valid points.


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[BottomLine 689]

There is no reason in the world why IU should not end up with an excellent experienced coach.   I know that IU has been in a slump for the last 20 years, blah, blah, blah.  The bottom line is the potential that programs have.  Don't judge IU by where we are now.  If we were at the top of the heap we would have coaches pounding down the ADs door.  That may not be the case but IU is far from being a lost cause.  This is a school with 5 national championships.  We rank 10th in the history of the college basketball in wins.  We are 6th in number if invites to the NCAA tourney.  We are 7th in all time NCAA tourney wins.  In short IU is a school that has produced in the past and certainly has the potential to produce again in the future.  We have been there and got the job done in the past.

So where do we rank in the pecking order for coaches?  Kentucky, Kansas, North Carolina and Duke are holy grail schools.  The coaches there either retire or get carried out feet first.  EVERYONE wants one of those four jobs.  Twenty years ago Indiana and UCLA would have probably been listed in that group of bluebloods.

Beneath that bunch are the destination schools which have proven in the past that they are capable of producing champions.  All have at least two NCAA titles, or have many tourney bids, or many tourney wins, or rank highly on the all time wins list.  Most have a combo of those characteristics.  These schools, while not all successful at present, have the track record to be dominate schools.  All are looking for successful winning coaches that can hold or bring back the glory.  The list includes Syracuse, Temple, UCLA, Notre Dame, St Johns, Indiana, Cincinnati, Villanova, NC State, Louisville, Michigan State, Connecticut and probably Ohio State.  If you want to throw in a few more or subtract a couple be my guest.  My point is that the coaches from these schools never volunteer to leave for another school unless they are fired or are hired by a "holy grail" school.  That is what makes them destination schools.

IU is just looking for the right hire.  since Knight we have had Davis (who had the job drop in his lap), Sampson (who could coach but was a cheat), Crean (who was better than a lot want to believe but couldn't do the job consistently) and Miller (who was obviously over his head).  In every case it was a bad hire for various reasons.  The right guy is out there.  I just know it in my bones.  I don't care who it is.  I just want a kick @$$ hire that will come in and build this program back up to where it should be and then stay the course from there.  I think we all want the same.  I pray we get it right this time.  I'm getting too old to wait forever.  There are plenty of coaches out there that would die for a call from the IU AD.  I just hope he picks the right one this time.