General Coach Candidate News

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

Bob Mckillip 

sheehey 

yogi 

How about Eric Musselman who coached Jim Thomas & Keith Smart when they were with Rapid City Thrillers of the CBA

[Uspshoosier]

2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Bob Mckillip 

sheehey 

yogi 

Scratch that no rings 

[Uspshoosier]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

How about Eric Musselman who coached Jim Thomas & Keith Smart when they were with Rapid City Thrillers of the CBA

I would of never gotten that because it didn’t have anything to do with college basketball 

[lillurk]

5 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

How about Eric Musselman who coached Jim Thomas & Keith Smart when they were with Rapid City Thrillers of the CBA

I’m enjoying the Mussel-mentum on the board.

[Jeff_Boy_Ardee]

Not saying this should be a determining factor, just asking.

Say a team that’s not a “traditional blue blood” but has had good basketball teams, (we will use Minnesota for this example since they’re in conference) if they fire a coach after this season due to lack of performance does the Indiana ADepartment look at that and maybe help push the needle to making a move now rather than later?


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[Stuhoo]

6 minutes ago, Jeff_Boy_Ardee said:

Not saying this should be a determining factor, just asking.

Say a team that’s not a “traditional blue blood” but has had good basketball teams, (we will use Minnesota for this example since they’re in conference) if they fire a coach after this season due to lack of performance does the Indiana ADepartment look at that and maybe help push the needle to making a move now rather than later?


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Nope.

I believe it comes down to a cost/benefit analysis.

That’s not as simple as “let’s save money” (though that’s one consideration).  It also encompasses keeping big donors happy and keeping the program viable.

[craigyv88]

Not advocating for Hoiberg as our next coach, but Nebraska's tempo and spacing looks really good and is reflective of what I'd like to see ran by whoever coaches at IU next.  Nebraska is 33rd in adjusted tempo and 27th in 3-point attempts and they seem to get a lot of open looks.  By comparison Indiana is at 284th in adjusted tempo and 188th in 3-point attempts.  

[ziggyiu]

2 hours ago, Treesh said:

Would be typical Baylor fashion to crap the bed in March. 
 

 

I come in peace and to share knowledge fellow Hoosier fan. 

Please note that we are evening discussing how well Baylor performs in the tourney is a testament to what Drew has done for a program that was DOA, no pun intended. 

Drew has been to the tourney 8 times. 

His team outperformed their seeding on 4 occasions. 

His team was upset on 3 occasions. 

His team played out its seed once. 

[ap2345]

3 hours ago, Chris007 said:

Yeah watched the first half, it wasn’t anything to write home about.

The difference between Archie and Mack is that Mack’s a better coach with a track record in the big east and acc. Not have similar styles but Mack has more success. All of these coaches share similar styles. Thad Matta, Brad Stevens, Sean Miller, Chris Mack, Archie Miller, Travis Steele and Lavall Jordan. Everyone of them coached under Matta except Mack and he coached under Sean Miller. They are all similar some are just better at getting results.  

[Unexpectedflash]

23 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

The difference between Archie and Mack is that Mack’s a better coach with a track record in the big east and acc. Not have similar styles but Mack has more success. All of these coaches share similar styles. Thad Matta, Brad Stevens, Sean Miller, Chris Mack, Archie Miller, Travis Steele and Lavall Jordan. Everyone of them coached under Matta except Mack and he coached under Sean Miller. They are all similar some are just better at getting results.  

I guess I’m just not a fan of this style especially when it seems like the system doesn’t value the 3 ball like it should. It’s the most important shot in the game. UVA plays very slow but they shoot and make a high percentage of 3s which is why they always have such high offensive efficiency numbers. 
 

The games are such a grind to get through and I’m sure recruits don’t like it either especially when the NBA is all about pace and space now. 

[Magisterium]

9 hours ago, hoosierpap said:

The buyout is 7 million dollars less next year. If you don't think that's an issue, idk what to tell you. Sure, IU can probably get the money but that comes with using a lot of your political capital. 

I honestly see your second statement  I bolded as more pessimistic/fatalistic than based in any reality. Current coaches have contracts, committed recruits, families- lives. Could next years coaching pool be worse? Sure could. Could it be better? Sure could. If it's right this year go for it but if it doesn't I'd say it makes "zero sense" to make a change to make a change.

I suspect Miller's buyout isn't the only one that drops considerably next year; it's likely so will those of some other coaches FWIW

[Southside]

9 hours ago, hoosierpap said:

The buyout is 7 million dollars less next year. If you don't think that's an issue, idk what to tell you. Sure, IU can probably get the money but that comes with using a lot of your political capital. 

I honestly see your second statement  I bolded as more pessimistic/fatalistic than based in any reality. Current coaches have contracts, committed recruits, families- lives. Could next years coaching pool be worse? Sure could. Could it be better? Sure could. If it's right this year go for it but if it doesn't I'd say it makes "zero sense" to make a change to make a change.

7M is not chump change, but honestly it's not near an insurmountable barrier. It likely is not costing the school a thing. Reports/rumors are that boosters have already ponied up. 

And that's simply the way things they are right now with big time college sports like FB and BB.  

So in short, if the money is there, there's really no reason to stand pat. 

I wouldn't call it political capital either. Boosters boost. That's what they do. It depends on the dynamics between the admin/BOT and the boosters. So long as the boosters don't run the show, or feel like they are entitled to run the show, it's not an issue. It does give them input though, and I think that's fair.

And to be honest, boosters can be better than the BOT/AD at identifying the right guy to "win". ADs and the BOT can play favorites or be incestuous about who they pick. On the other hand boosters can turn a blind eye to red flags. All in all, having the right mix can bring good balance to the decision. 

[RaceToTheTop]

8 hours ago, craigyv88 said:

Not advocating for Hoiberg as our next coach, but Nebraska's tempo and spacing looks really good and is reflective of what I'd like to see ran by whoever coaches at IU next.  Nebraska is 33rd in adjusted tempo and 27th in 3-point attempts and they seem to get a lot of open looks.  By comparison Indiana is at 284th in adjusted tempo and 188th in 3-point attempts.  

I fear Hoiberg has met his match in Nebraska.  He’s always lived on bringing in transfer....Nebraska is a hard sell.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

9 hours ago, craigyv88 said:

Not advocating for Hoiberg as our next coach, but Nebraska's tempo and spacing looks really good and is reflective of what I'd like to see ran by whoever coaches at IU next.  Nebraska is 33rd in adjusted tempo and 27th in 3-point attempts and they seem to get a lot of open looks.  By comparison Indiana is at 284th in adjusted tempo and 188th in 3-point attempts.  

They were also a better defensive team this year than us...

[LIHoosier]

10 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

I fear Hoiberg has met his match in Nebraska.  He’s always lived on bringing in transfer....Nebraska is a hard sell.

I don't know if its Nebraska that's the problem as it is everyone else catching on to Hoiberg's transfer tactics. Add to that the more lax stance the NCAA has had with grad transfers and immediate undergrad transfers and now everyone can play that game and immediately bolster their roster.

[Trish]

Archie's last game tonight? 

[hper50]

I feel like we win tonight. We’ll see......

[Bowhunter]

I’ve been saying it all week. I think we win this game . We will play loose and actually hit shots.


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[Chris007]

27 minutes ago, Treesh said:

Archie's last game tonight? 

Whenever we lose yes it will be. It's distant but I think I see white smoke coming from the Vatican. 

[Chris007]

53 minutes ago, LIHoosier said:

I don't know if its Nebraska that's the problem as it is everyone else catching on to Hoiberg's transfer tactics. Add to that the more lax stance the NCAA has had with grad transfers and immediate undergrad transfers and now everyone can play that game and immediately bolster their roster.

The one thing I like about Nebraska is when they fired Miles they went after who they thought was a home run and paid him like a top dog in coaching. That's what Indiana needs to do.