ap2345 Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, Treesh said: I have no idea. As you mentioned earlier, there are better programs on the verge of opening up. The big fish could be waiting for that although we can all assume who will fill those spots. There could be a change of hearts this off-season for some coaches or maybe next year. It wasn't as fruitful as we had all hoped four year ago. Considering that and other big jobs maybe opening up.. UNC will be Wes Miller Duke will be picked by K and will likely be Nate James or Jon Scheyer I don't think those schools will be going with big names people think. As for the others who knows.
IUc2016 Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 Just now, Chris007 said: I know I love your positivity. I think I'm just getting frustrated that my gut is telling me that were going to sit through this for another year It's Tom Allen season in 5 months. He will provide plenty of distraction :) Chris007 and MemphisHoosier 2
Trish Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 1 minute ago, IUc2016 said: It's Tom Allen season in 5 months. He will provide plenty of distraction :) Football school! IUc2016 1
HoosierFan1994 Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 38 minutes ago, lillurk said: I genuinely worry that 1) IU stays the course, 2) IU has a decent season, and 3) IU sticks with Miller. It’s not my call but it isn’t working and seems to be going the wrong way based on the last month and the recruiting. There’s a pretty good group coming back, especially on the perimeter with Franklin, Stewart, and an improved Lander (plus I like Rob but I think he’d be better under a different coach). I can see the logic with waiting if you really think there’s a small number of coaches who can win at IU. I disagree, like @Chris007 , and think most competent options would be an immediate and long-term upgrade. Like @hoosierpap I live outside the state now and think the recruiting base and resources make IU a sleeping giant so I’m less convinced you need some hard-to-find “perfect fit.” Like a lot of y’all I typically watch every game, read and think about the team a ton, and that enthusiasm has waned big time. Anyway, what if IU’s like 23-13 (10-10) next year but plays into the sweet sixteen after they upset a 2 or 3 seed in the second round? That wouldn’t really change my perspective on Miller but I worry it would just delay the inevitable longer. Only thing that would change my perspective on Miller would be a 2011-2012 like season. Indiana went from being in the basement of the Big Ten to a legit National Title contender in one season.
HoosierFan1994 Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 20 minutes ago, Chris007 said: IMO it wasn't fruitful because we didn't want to pay to be players again. We wanted to go cheap with an up and comer and hoped it worked out. It didn't so now time to dish out some money. It's the same candidates now or this time next year IMO Indiana Basketball should be able to pay a coach in the top ten as far as salary goes. I think Miller was 20. That's unacceptable. Uspshoosier and Chris007 2
Uspshoosier Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 Just now, HoosierFan1994 said: Indiana Basketball should be able to pay a coach in the top ten as far as salary goes. I think Miller was 20. That's unacceptable. 21st according to the one that came out today Chris007 1
IUc2016 Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said: Indiana Basketball should be able to pay a coach in the top ten as far as salary goes. I think Miller was 20. That's unacceptable. I could be wrong, but I thought his salary was top 10 at the time the contract was written. But since he hasn't performed he hasn't gotten a pay raise to keep it top 10. thebigweave and MikeRoberts 2
IUc2016 Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: 21st according to the one that came out today was actually 8th highest when he was hired. Which for his resume at the time was pretty reasonable. No reason to give him top 5 money. https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2017/06/27/archie-millers-first-iu-contract-worth-least-24-million/431329001/ Uspshoosier, 8bucks, MikeRoberts and 2 others 5
Hoosierfan2017 Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 35 minutes ago, Treesh said: I have no idea. As you mentioned earlier, there are better programs on the verge of opening up. The big fish could be waiting for that although we can all assume who will fill those spots. There could be a change of hearts this off-season for some coaches or maybe next year. It wasn't as fruitful as we had all hoped four year ago. Considering that and other big jobs maybe opening up.. Our roster isn’t terrible and a new coach this year would have freedom to play in the transfer market to reshape the roster. We might not need any rebuild at all if we have a new coach next year. Someone like Mack or Drew could have us in the tournament as early as next year. If we wait a year that changes. IUrocker, Loaded Chicken Sandwich, taco corp and 4 others 7
IUrocker Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: Our roster isn’t terrible and a new coach this year would have freedom to play in the transfer market to reshape the roster. We might not need any rebuild at all if we have a new coach next year. Someone like Mack or Drew could have us in the tournament as early as next year. If we wait a year that changes. Boy do I hope Dolson realizes this... MemphisHoosier, Hoosierfan2017, thebigweave and 4 others 7
lillurk Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 Does a blowout loss move the needle more than a mildly competitive one tomorrow night?
8bucks Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 I don’t get how a home run hire would be willing next year but not this year. If that is the case then it sounds like they are waiting on other things to happen which if those happen then they probably don’t come. If it is a $ thing, like the buyout is there for a home run but not a double, then I get it. But if we are waiting on coach x who says next year is better it sounds kind of like that time you ask a girl to prom and she says I will let you know next week. Hoosierfan2017, HoosierFan1994, craigyv88 and 4 others 7
TheWatShot Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, 8bucks said: I don’t get how a home run hire would be willing next year but not this year. If that is the case then it sounds like they are waiting on other things to happen which if those happen then they probably don’t come. If it is a $ thing, like the buyout is there for a home run but not a double, then I get it. But if we are waiting on coach x who says next year is better it sounds kind of like that time you ask a girl to prom and she says I will let you know next week. I think this is just a coping mechanism our fans have created over many years of bad basketball and failing coaches. lillurk and HoosierTrav 2
lillurk Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 on the bright side, we might know something soon. If he’s staying we’ll see the Dolson statement backing him, oh, the day after they lose? And if it’s quiet that might mean contract buyout negotiations are happening?
coonhounds Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 Why doesn't anyone want to explain how waiting till late April next year for the buyout to drop is to long to wait to fire him anyhow? How can you wait that long especially if next year is anything like this one? Buyout is irrelevant Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
AKHoosier Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 If we don't make a change now, we're probably getting at least 2 more years of Archie. If TJD comes back, we'll probably have a pretty good team next year that would get into the tournament. I don't see IU firing any coach who makes the tournament, no matter how quickly they exit.
Chris007 Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 32 minutes ago, lillurk said: Does a blowout loss move the needle more than a mildly competitive one tomorrow night? I don't know but Archie said today that Franklin and Race are both game-time decisions. Race is injured more than Franklin but more likely to play.
Chris007 Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, coonhounds said: Why doesn't anyone want to explain how waiting till late April next year for the buyout to drop is to long to wait to fire him anyhow? How can you wait that long especially if next year is anything like this one? Buyout is irrelevant Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk I don't think they wait till April next season. As soon as the season is over you negotiate it down so your not waiting till April Loaded Chicken Sandwich and coonhounds 2
IUrocker Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, Chris007 said: I don't think they wait till April next season. As soon as the season is over you negotiate it down so your not waiting till April You don’t think they wait til April next season as in they make the move this season, or you mean after next season they don’t wait til April?
lillurk Posted March 10, 2021 Posted March 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, Chris007 said: I don't think they wait till April next season. As soon as the season is over you negotiate it down so your not waiting till April To me the move — this year or next — is to negotiate the mitigation. “We‘ll guarantee $5M as long as you’re looking for jobs.” thebigweave 1
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