General Coach Candidate News

[Chris007 59,379]

1 minute ago, JimmerNoe said:

Although Jeff Goodman is not our favorite person, he said something very interesting last night. He is typically not someone to withhold a name or information as we all know. If he is able to say who it is, he will. Last night:

”For the IU job, my sources say it’s Ben McCollum, then Brownell, and then there’s a third candidate.”

Seemed super strange that he didn’t offer a name or information on that third name, and Dauster didn’t push him on it. To me, it seems like he knows there is another person on the table and has shared it with Dauster but isn’t ready to put it out there for whatever reason. Just a little out of character for Goodman, and you would expect Dauster to question who the third name is since that was the context of the conversation. 

When he lets Talia break the Stevens news it’s going to show he does have a heart.

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2 minutes ago, JimmerNoe said:

Although Jeff Goodman is not our favorite person, he said something very interesting last night. He is typically not someone to withhold a name or information as we all know. If he is able to say who it is, he will. Last night:

”For the IU job, my sources say it’s Ben McCollum, then Brownell, and then there’s a third candidate.”

Seemed super strange that he didn’t offer a name or information on that third name, and Dauster didn’t push him on it. To me, it seems like he knows there is another person on the table and has shared it with Dauster but isn’t ready to put it out there for whatever reason. Just a little out of character for Goodman, and you would expect Dauster to question who the third name is since that was the context of the conversation. 

I would add though that he said that person was third on our list.

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2 minutes ago, JimmerNoe said:

Although Jeff Goodman is not our favorite person, he said something very interesting last night. He is typically not someone to withhold a name or information as we all know. If he is able to say who it is, he will. Last night:

”For the IU job, my sources say it’s Ben McCollum, then Brownell, and then there’s a third candidate.”

Seemed super strange that he didn’t offer a name or information on that third name, and Dauster didn’t push him on it. To me, it seems like he knows there is another person on the table and has shared it with Dauster but isn’t ready to put it out there for whatever reason. Just a little out of character for Goodman, and you would expect Dauster to question who the third name is since that was the context of the conversation. 

He’s covering his bases because he doesn’t know.  If it’s not McCollum or Brownell he can now say “oh yea it was that third guy I heard about.”

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1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

When he lets Talia break the Stevens news it’s going to show he does have a heart.

Who’s Talia?

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1 minute ago, SlammySammy said:

Who’s Talia?

His daughter who is an IU student and covers college basketball 

[Silat Player 1,543]

Admittedly, I only came to BTB in 2021 - I was a peegs guy for looong time before that, so I'm definitely one of the new guys here. I was one of the many people who came for the last coaching search and because peegs have zero real info regarding the actual search (and it sounds like little has changed this time around). 

Can anyone explain to me why there would be so much subterfuge on IU's part? I mean, I hear some of the craziest stories of distraction - things that would be almost CIA-worthy. I understand that some of it is jokes, but I think a lot of it is actually serious. Why would Dolson need to work so hard to fool people and send them in the wrong direction? 

I can understand his reluctance to publicize certain details of the search, and he's doing a good job of keeping details to himself and his circle, but what does he actually gain by sending out even a fourth of the false flags that people are proposing? 

Don't get me wrong - I find this board loads of fun and I've been reading it a lot. I guess a big part of me is just baffled by some of misdirection theorized by people here. It would only seem necessary in a Robert Ludlum novel. LOL

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Just now, Silat Player said:

Admittedly, I only came to BTB in 2021 - I was a peegs guy for looong time before that, so I'm definitely one of the new guys here. I was one of the many people who came for the last coaching search and because peegs have zero real info regarding the actual search (and it sounds like little has changed this time around). 

Can anyone explain to me why there would be so much subterfuge on IU's part? I mean, I hear some of the craziest stories of distraction - things that would be almost CIA-worthy. I understand that some of it is jokes, but I think a lot of it is actually serious. Why would Dolson need to work so hard to fool people and send them in the wrong direction? 

I can understand his reluctance to publicize certain details of the search, and he's doing a good job of keeping details to himself and his circle, but what does he actually gain by sending out even a fourth of the false flags that people are proposing? 

Don't get me wrong - I find this board loads of fun and I've been reading it a lot. I guess a big part of me is just baffled by some of misdirection theorized by people here. It would only seem necessary in a Robert Ludlum novel. LOL

We call it fan fiction lol

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3 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

He’s covering his bases because he doesn’t know.  If it’s not McCollum or Brownell he can now say “oh yea it was that third guy I heard about.”

Or he does know, but this way if it’s Brownell or McCollum as the primary alternative choices, he can say “I was right,“ and if it’s not, he can say “I knew it was the third guy.”

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5 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

When he lets Talia break the Stevens news it’s going to show he does have a heart.

I’m laughing but that would honestly be a really cool dad moment / gesture lol

[Chris007 59,379]

4 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

Admittedly, I only came to BTB in 2021 - I was a peegs guy for looong time before that, so I'm definitely one of the new guys here. I was one of the many people who came for the last coaching search and because peegs have zero real info regarding the actual search (and it sounds like little has changed this time around). 

Can anyone explain to me why there would be so much subterfuge on IU's part? I mean, I hear some of the craziest stories of distraction - things that would be almost CIA-worthy. I understand that some of it is jokes, but I think a lot of it is actually serious. Why would Dolson need to work so hard to fool people and send them in the wrong direction? 

I can understand his reluctance to publicize certain details of the search, and he's doing a good job of keeping details to himself and his circle, but what does he actually gain by sending out even a fourth of the false flags that people are proposing? 

Don't get me wrong - I find this board loads of fun and I've been reading it a lot. I guess a big part of me is just baffled by some of misdirection theorized by people here. It would only seem necessary in a Robert Ludlum novel. LOL

I think some of these things come from agents of potential candidates. The McCollum tweet the other night was from his side to gauge our interest since the Iowa job was opening up.

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Beware the ides of March!

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26 minutes ago, Dhop said:

So I made the mistake of going to bed last night and now I’m out of the loop.  Did a plane ever land anywhere?  Did any other notable people watch a basketball game somewhere?  It’s amazing how lost you can get in just a few hours.

The most notable guy watching a game last night was the huge Missouri fan behind Brad Stevens with what appeared to be a hernia in his pants.

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14 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

When he lets Talia break the Stevens news it’s going to show he does have a heart.

To clarify since the tweet about Brad at the game was from a “ Talia”—It wasn’t Goodman’s daughter—different Talia.  Covers Florida.

Edited yesterday at 02:16 PM by westgym

[SlammySammy 1,497]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think some of these things come from agents of potential candidates. The McCollum tweet the other night was from his side to gauge our interest since the Iowa job was opening up.

Chris, did we get confirmation on that coming from McCollum side?

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1 minute ago, westgym said:

It wasn’t Goodman’s daughter—different Talia.  Covers Florida.

Huh? He's talking about announcing Stevens to IU, not that Stevens was at the SEC tournament yesterday. 

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8 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

Admittedly, I only came to BTB in 2021 - I was a peegs guy for looong time before that, so I'm definitely one of the new guys here. I was one of the many people who came for the last coaching search and because peegs have zero real info regarding the actual search (and it sounds like little has changed this time around). 

Can anyone explain to me why there would be so much subterfuge on IU's part? I mean, I hear some of the craziest stories of distraction - things that would be almost CIA-worthy. I understand that some of it is jokes, but I think a lot of it is actually serious. Why would Dolson need to work so hard to fool people and send them in the wrong direction? 

I can understand his reluctance to publicize certain details of the search, and he's doing a good job of keeping details to himself and his circle, but what does he actually gain by sending out even a fourth of the false flags that people are proposing? 

Don't get me wrong - I find this board loads of fun and I've been reading it a lot. I guess a big part of me is just baffled by some of misdirection theorized by people here. It would only seem necessary in a Robert Ludlum novel. LOL

I think Dolson is spending virtually zero amount of time or energy sending out false flags, trying to fool people or send people in wrong directions. 

He's doing his job and keeping things as quiet as he can, but he's not wasting time sending out "smokescreens".

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17 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

Admittedly, I only came to BTB in 2021 - I was a peegs guy for looong time before that, so I'm definitely one of the new guys here. I was one of the many people who came for the last coaching search and because peegs have zero real info regarding the actual search (and it sounds like little has changed this time around). 

Can anyone explain to me why there would be so much subterfuge on IU's part? I mean, I hear some of the craziest stories of distraction - things that would be almost CIA-worthy. I understand that some of it is jokes, but I think a lot of it is actually serious. Why would Dolson need to work so hard to fool people and send them in the wrong direction? 

I can understand his reluctance to publicize certain details of the search, and he's doing a good job of keeping details to himself and his circle, but what does he actually gain by sending out even a fourth of the false flags that people are proposing? 

Don't get me wrong - I find this board loads of fun and I've been reading it a lot. I guess a big part of me is just baffled by some of misdirection theorized by people here. It would only seem necessary in a Robert Ludlum novel. LOL

There's a couple schools of thought on why this would happen:

1) afraid of what happened last time - too many chefs. 

2) no real advantage to making it public - looks bad when people say no and fans overreacting to every back and forth can make fanbase look manic

3) part of negotiations are salary - better off doing that in a vacuum so you don't get into a long back and forth. Or in some cases you don't want people to know who and how much your other offers are for.

4) Other party wants it that way for whatever reason

 

Note: i don't think IU is actively sending out misinformation but when no information is getting out people present speculation as fact sometimes 

[Chris007 59,379]

2 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

Chris, did we get confirmation on that coming from McCollum side?

I was told that by people at IU. I’m pretty sure other posters heard that as well 

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45 minutes ago, Atombaum said:

Zzzzzzzz. I've wasted so much time reading nothing on here! So many posts that are empty. I guess I didn't get why we even give the threads a title. 99 percent is just people rambling. Lots of these should just be personal messages.

Talk to the mods, they'll get you a refund since you're not pleased with the product.

Thanks for contributing this gem of insight into the coaching search.

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I hope this is over next week. If the coach is not announced and the portal opens can someone on the current staff offer players a scholarship. Another way of putting this is couldn’t the new coach being busy in the tournament let it be know that he is keeping one of the current staff and IU could make offers to players in the portal .