NCAA MBB Transfer Portal

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5 hours ago, Hardwood83 said:

What am I missing here? This guy looks extremely average: 5.5ppg 40% FG, 30% 3P, 66% FT, maybe a decent rebounder.....I can see not kicking him off your team if you already have him, maybe your 8th man, but to actively reach out to him as a transfer? I don't understand. IU needs talent and Luis is a dime a dozen D1 player that does nothing particularly well. I hope he just made up that IU is interested. 

Yes, I'm not seeing him as a big splash.  I think he's a pretty good defender (he was sixth in the SEC in steals this past year and think was better than that the year before).  Liked his 2020-21 season better than this past year when he shot 45/33 and had 6.3 rebounds and 2 assists/game.

To me he looks like a taller, better rebounding but less able ball handling version of Rob Phinisee.  There is some value in him but I just see him as a rotational bench guy at best.

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2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

What about this guy?

 

Now this sounds like what we need. A stretch big. I’d be all in here

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Doug Edert to the portal - yes please

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Here's what you are missing in my opinion:
If we are looking at hard-nosed, medium stats guys, that may mean we are considering the possibility that we will need to add an excellent 7th/8th/9th guy in our rotation, and therein that the key players in our rotation may stay in place.
In that sense, it may be a cause for optimism that we are not looking at someone that expects to take volume shots or have the ball in their hands to be effective.
 

I like the optimism. I can get on board with this

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2 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

I like the optimism. I can get on board with this

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It feels like we are looking for one starter quality big (Broome, Sparks, Reneau) and a bench wing/sg.

 

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21 hours ago, Chris007 said:

What about this guy?

 

Would be a nice get.

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19 hours ago, brumdog45 said:

Apparently Gonzaga is VERY heavily in pursuit of him.  

Boooooo!

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18 hours ago, MikeRoberts said:

Doug Edert to the portal - yes please

This is the sad part of the portal, guys that were keys to their team, were not limited in opportunity or circumstance, are beginning to just jump ship at any potential possibility of the chance of  added exposure or promises of NIL $$. Not sure they shouldn't be allowed to, but there is tons of potential bad actors to get involved with the portal and the NIL. 

This almost seems like the wild west of pharma years back when they would line the pockets of doctors for scripts written for obscenely priced drugs.

There needs to be some well thought out regulation of both the portal and the NIL before it makes the 1980's bag man look like a saint in comparison.

 

Maybe 2yr minimum at original school  for no sit transfer with coaching change exception.

Or possibly no NIL for 1 year after a transfer.

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17 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

This is the sad part of the portal, guys that were keys to their team, were not limited in opportunity or circumstance, are beginning to just jump ship at any potential possibility of the chance of  added exposure or promises of NIL $$. Not sure they shouldn't be allowed to, but there is tons of potential bad actors to get involved with the portal and the NIL. 

This almost seems like the wild west of pharma years back when they would line the pockets of doctors for scripts written for obscenely priced drugs.

There needs to be some well thought out regulation of both the portal and the NIL before it makes the 1980's bag man look like a saint in comparison.

 

Maybe 2yr minimum at original school with coaching change exception for a no sit yr transfer.

Or possibly no NIL for 1 year after a transfer.

At the same time if I could get into a better academic school through this exposure, I imagine I’d do it. 

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21 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

This is the sad part of the portal, guys that were keys to their team, were not limited in opportunity or circumstance, are beginning to just jump ship at any potential possibility of the chance of  added exposure or promises of NIL $$. Not sure they shouldn't be allowed to, but there is tons of potential bad actors to get involved with the portal and the NIL. 

This almost seems like the wild west of pharma years back when they would line the pockets of doctors for scripts written for obscenely priced drugs.

There needs to be some well thought out regulation of both the portal and the NIL before it makes the 1980's bag man look like a saint in comparison.

 

Maybe 2yr minimum at original school with coaching change exception for a no sit yr transfer.

Or possibly no NIL for 1 year after a transfer.

Won't happen. The whole purpose of NIL and free transfers was about one thing and one thing only: helping the rich get richer. The NCAA wants the big schools at the top. Teams like St. Peter's are a nuisance, and this puts them back in their place. 

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4 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

At the same time if I could get into a better academic school through this exposure, I imagine I’d do it. 

I like the opportunity for the player to improve his position, but the fact that the schools that already have infinitely more recruiting resources are now basically allowed to cherry pick players they missed on with NIL money just seems like a  soon to be realized end to the Cinderella teams. They are making the small schools like the D league.

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6 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Won't happen. The whole purpose of NIL and free transfers was about one thing and one thing only: helping the rich get richer. The NCAA wants the big schools at the top. Teams like St. Peter's are a nuisance, and this puts them back in their place. 

I disagree that that was the intent as the the Clemson, Bama, OSU's in FB and the Duke, UNC, UK, KU's of BB have been oligarch rich for  decades, I think this was definitely a student athlete move originally, but as a side effect it has been like giving Elon Musk a unlimited perpetual tax  exemption for money he had forgotten to report.

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6 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

I like the opportunity for the player to improve his position, but the fact that the schools that already have infinitely more recruiting resources are now basically allowed to cherry pick players they missed on with NIL money just seems like a  soon to be realized end to the Cinderella teams. They are making the small schools like the D league.

Yeah that irks me as well. 

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17 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

I like the opportunity for the player to improve his position, but the fact that the schools that already have infinitely more recruiting resources are now basically allowed to cherry pick players they missed on with NIL money just seems like a  soon to be realized end to the Cinderella teams. They are making the small schools like the D league.

I think we are about to find out how important roster continuity really is. But I do agree rich get richer with this. Hopefully IU can profit. 

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56 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Won't happen. The whole purpose of NIL and free transfers was about one thing and one thing only: helping the rich get richer. The NCAA wants the big schools at the top. Teams like St. Peter's are a nuisance, and this puts them back in their place. 

That was not actually the purpose of NIL and free transfers, not even close. The purpose was avoiding lawsuits. However, the outcome will be that the rich get richer.

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9 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

That was not actually the purpose of NIL and free transfers, not even close. The purpose was avoiding lawsuits. However, the outcome will be that the rich get richer.

+1 the NCAA did everything within their power to avoid this.

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Jake Weingarten - Wichita State’s Dexter Dennis is going to enter the transfer portal, he told @Stockrisers. One of the best defenders in the nation. Averaged 8.4 points, and 5.0 rebounds, 1.6 assists.  Hit 176 three’s in three seasons with the Shockers. Top-11 in program history.

One hour into the portal, Dexter Dennis has heard from Indiana, Pittsburgh, West Virginia, Wake Forest, Loyola Chicago, South Alabama, Mercer, ETSU, Hofstra, Stetson, UCF.

https://goshockers.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/dexter-dennis/6186

 

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5 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Jake Weingarten - Wichita State’s Dexter Dennis is going to enter the transfer portal, he told @Stockrisers. One of the best defenders in the nation. Averaged 8.4 points, and 5.0 rebounds, 1.6 assists.  Hit 176 three’s in three seasons with the Shockers. Top-11 in program history.

One hour into the portal, Dexter Dennis has heard from Indiana, Pittsburgh, West Virginia, Wake Forest, Loyola Chicago, South Alabama, Mercer, ETSU, Hofstra, Stetson, UCF.

https://goshockers.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/dexter-dennis/6186

 

He only shot 30% from 3 this year and his freshman year is the only season he's shot over 34% from 3.

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10 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Jake Weingarten - Wichita State’s Dexter Dennis is going to enter the transfer portal, he told @Stockrisers. One of the best defenders in the nation. Averaged 8.4 points, and 5.0 rebounds, 1.6 assists.  Hit 176 three’s in three seasons with the Shockers. Top-11 in program history.

One hour into the portal, Dexter Dennis has heard from Indiana, Pittsburgh, West Virginia, Wake Forest, Loyola Chicago, South Alabama, Mercer, ETSU, Hofstra, Stetson, UCF.

https://goshockers.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/dexter-dennis/6186

 

I remember going to our NIT game against them and he stood out to me when he was on the floor. Not sure he's for us, but solid player.

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With Pack as an obvious exception, IU’s portal outreach has been for two spots:

1. Bigs as TJD/Race/JG contingencies and

2. wings that either shoot or defend.

This fits with the two ‘22s they’re in with, too, Reneau in group one and Thiero in 2.

I infer that they don’t anticipate additional attrition aside from possibly the frontcourt trio, they’re set at point, and they really want a wing who can shoot AND defend, but everyone wants those, and they’re scarce.