IUBB vs Nebraska 12/13 8 pm BTN

[cappymo14]

After watching the game again this morning, I think I’ll put some things out there. The consensus is that though this was a win, it’s an embarrassment. Ugly-win. Maybe. Why though? Because Nebraska was easily handled and badly out scored in previous games? One thing though, nobody ever mentioned who played really, really well. Better than I’d seen all year. Nebraska did. I believe what we saw was a team that everyone expected to lay down, decided not too. They played excellent basketball. They made tough shots, played together, found a weakness and exploited it as long as they could. We should have won comfortably on paper. Wasn’t played on paper though. We saw a team that gave their best possible effort and still came up short. Caught them on a bad night is what I’m saying.
Indiana turns it over and has glaring deficiencies on the defensive end of the floor. I believe the defensive woes to be systematic in nature and fixable if the coaching staff adjusts. It wasn’t an embarrassment though. Not at all. They will have learned something about their defense and how teams plan to attack. A lot of players had good games on both ends. Wasn’t a one man show. That’s a good thing. Deron Davis had good minutes, Joe Brunk did good things as well. Justin Smith, Al, Hunter. All positive. Rob and Green too. All the guys had a positive column that was taller than the negative. Not even ugly really. A team came in to AH and played surprisingly tough, and we matched every run they had. On to the next one.


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[Ranger78]

Cappy. I watched the game again today. And I agree a lot of it was Nebraska playing really well. We still have a lot to work on, but you make a lot of valid points. Too many bad TO and we need to continue to work inside out. If we can make some outside shots, we will open the floodgates on the offense end. Too many easy drives to the basket, but that was caused by some bad shooters making shots.


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[cappymo14]

Cappy. I watched the game again today. And I agree a lot of it was Nebraska playing really well. We still have a lot to work on, but you make a lot of valid points. Too many bad TO and we need to continue to work inside out. If we can make some outside shots, we will open the floodgates on the offense end. Too many easy drives to the basket, but that was caused by some bad shooters making shots.  

 

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I’m convinced of it. That Nebraska just simply played above their potential Friday. It happens with some regularity in Div 1. Even with Indiana in past times. That said, there is also no question that our defensive system has certain flaws which allow middling teams to gain confidence and comfort given that there is a specific, known, blueprint on how to defeat it. We need to figure out a way to keep perimeter players in front without any overhelp which keeps leading to open looks. Teams will spread it out and ball screen until they get a mismatch. It’s what I’d do. Rob will help with that some, but all the guys have to work very hard on fighting through those screens. We over help unnecessarily in these situations. Good thing is, not all teams can play 5 out. Against those clubs, IU bigs can back off and play the same game Nebraska used against us...Goad non-shooters into taking the shots we want them to take. Might not be able to fix everything this year, or any other. This is a talented team of smart, quick, athletic players. If we can’t make the system hum with these guys, who does it take then?

 

 

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[OliviaPope40]

I have tickets to next Saturday's game and I told my dad the game tying 3 was coming. 

[cthomas]

8 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

We had the 11-12, 12-13 and 15-16 seasons under Crean. Those are 3 of the Top 5 seasons we’ve had since Knight was fired. The 12-13 team was arguably the best team we’ve had since he was fired.


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I didn't see anything from Crean that remotely reminded me of Knight. Good teams? Sure. Style of play or points of emphasis? Not at all.

[DChoosier]

1 hour ago, cthomas said:

I didn't see anything from Crean that remotely reminded me of Knight. Good teams? Sure. Style of play or points of emphasis? Not at all.

They both worked at Assembly Hall.
Aside from that no other similarities come to mind.

[DChoosier]

1 hour ago, cthomas said:

I didn't see anything from Crean that remotely reminded me of Knight. Good teams? Sure. Style of play or points of emphasis? Not at all.

If fairness he said “since Knight was fired”. Don’t think he was comparing Crean to Knight.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

I didn't see anything from Crean that remotely reminded me of Knight. Good teams? Sure. Style of play or points of emphasis? Not at all.

Those teams played good offense and defense. The 12-12 and 15-16 teams won some grinding games and put points on teams. That’s what we expect right?


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[cthomas]

13 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

If fairness he said “since Knight was fired”. Don’t think he was comparing Crean to Knight.

The original post was something about Crean being the closest to getting back to Knight which I took as a comparison between the two. If we are just talking about winning games, it's a different conversation. As screwed up as he was, Sampson was closer to Knight stylistically than Crean.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

The original post was something about Crean being the closest to getting back to Knight which I took as a comparison between the two. If we are just talking about winning games, it's a different conversation. As screwed up as he was, Sampson was closer to Knight stylistically than Crean.

Right. Out of Davis, Sampson, Crean and Archie, Crean has been the closest. It doesn’t mean it’s close. Just the closest. As in Denver is closer to Boston that Salt Lake City, LA and Portland.


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[JSHoosier]

1 hour ago, cthomas said:

I didn't see anything from Crean that remotely reminded me of Knight. Good teams? Sure. Style of play or points of emphasis? Not at all.

I don't think it was meant as a comparison as much as just pointing out that some of our more successful seasons post-RMK came with Crean as coach.  Oy, that is sad and depressing since it's true.

Coaching basketball in Assembly Hall is about the only comparison between them.  RMK was incredible at that, Crean tried.

[Hillsdale87]

Anybody feeling better about Friday night's game with Nebraska currently beating up Purdue? Hoiberg appears to have them playing pretty well


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[HoosierAloha]

Anybody feeling better about Friday night's game with Nebraska currently beating up Purdue? Hoiberg appears to have them playing pretty well


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Bottom Line, IU should have taken care of Nebrasketball earlier and not let them make a few amazing plays late to send it to overtime. It’s conference play now and there won’t be crazy blowouts (unless it’s IU playing at Wiscy).


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[Alford Bailey]

1 hour ago, Free Jurkin! said:

Anybody feeling better about Friday night's game with Nebraska currently beating up Purdue? Hoiberg appears to have them playing pretty well


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I always feel good about a Purdue loss

[BottomLine]

For the Sky is Falling Club that thinks IU should be embarrassed by our win over Nebraska, and that Nebraska resembles something smelly that my dogs left in the back yard, Nebraska just beat Purdue by 14. 

[Honkyman]

Nebraska won at home. Big 10 teams are undefeated at home in conference play so far this season. What was troubling about Friday night's game was that it resembled for too much the conference play of last season--unforced turnovers, poor defense, inability to hit 3-point shots and free throws (until the end), lackluster effort through much of the game, and Archie Miller being out-coached by the opposing coach. That IU won on Friday (narrowly in overtime) or that Nebraska defeated Purdue in Lincoln today does not change the fact that there are serious problems with the team's play that must be fixed if IU is going to make the NCAA tournament.

[Stuhoo]

9 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

Nebraska won at home. Big 10 teams are undefeated at home in conference play so far this season. What was troubling about Friday night's game was that it resembled for too much the conference play of last season--unforced turnovers, poor defense, inability to hit 3-point shots and free throws (until the end), lackluster effort through much of the game, and Archie Miller being out-coached by the opposing coach. That IU won on Friday (narrowly in overtime) or that Nebraska defeated Purdue in Lincoln today does not change the fact that there are serious problems with the team's play that must be fixed if IU is going to make the NCAA tournament.

So basically, when we played like crap and Nebraska played really well...

we won.

 

[Honkyman]

No.. If we play like crap against better teams than Nebraska, teams like Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, and Maryland, to name just four, we won't be as lucky as we were against Nebraska. It will be more like the result IU had when it played like crap against Wisconsin.

[Stuhoo]

8 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

No.. If we play like crap against better teams than Nebraska, teams like Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, and Maryland, to name just four, we won't be as lucky as we were against Nebraska. It will be more like the result IU had when it played like crap against Wisconsin.

Exactly.

We haven’t played like crap that often this year.

 

 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

Exactly.
We haven’t played like crap that often this year.
 
 

Eh... depends on your definition of crap. I’d say we have probably 40% of the time. We had multiple 10-20 minute spurts of crap against cream puffs. We played like crap for all of Wisconsin. Played like crap for most of UConn. Played like crap for all of Nebraska. So maybe more than 40%.


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