IUBB vs Florida St Game Thread 12/3 @ 9 pm ESPN2

[southsidehoosier]

What else is new?  Little brother's gonna' have a tough week.

 

I think line last night had Purdue favored by 3....was surprised at that

 

 

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Edit: Now down to -1 Purdue

[Stuhoo]

4 minutes ago, Old Friend said:

Er..uh...um....er...  um....  Yye.....I mean....NO, Billy!  I am one of Santa's helpers!!  Now go back to sleep and let me have that camera.  Where's your mother?

Stay away from my mother Santa

[Hoosierfan2017]

1 hour ago, Aaron said:

I like this team with no stars approach. This can certainly work and has at Wisconsin, PU, Butler, Michigan and several others.

The question is going to be long term if getting lower ranked 3-4 star players and developing them as a tough minded defense first team is something Archie can make work for an extended period of time like at the above schools. If it is I am all on board.

We have a star in TJD. He just doesn't act like one, which is the best kind of star to have in college basketball.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

I like this team with no stars approach. This can certainly work and has at Wisconsin, PU, Butler, Michigan and several others.
The question is going to be long term if getting lower ranked 3-4 star players and developing them as a tough minded defense first team is something Archie can make work for an extended period of time like at the above schools. If it is I am all on board.

TJD is a star.


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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

I haven't read the whole thread yet, but I thought DA did a tremendous job on defense. His 3 late in the second half helped put the game out of reach. Let's keep building on this win.

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[Aaron]

11 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

We have a star in TJD. He just doesn't act like one, which is the best kind of star to have in college basketball.

Agreed. Carsen Edwards was like that for PU, Kamar Baldwin for Butler is as well. Maybe a few others on the teams I mentioned. My point was I like this winning formula with lower ranked players and 1-2 humble stars (Zeller and Oladipo were that) who don't act like stars and a bunch of 3-4 star recruits that can develop into team.   

[Trish]

First game I've gotten to watch in it's entirety. All I can say is "the pack line defense doesn't work" LOL!

 

Franklin is impressive as a freshman, we'll need Rob though. Hunter looked lost as a freshman probably should in a big game. Can't rely on Green hitting 30 everynight, we'll need others to step up including Al, Smith, and Rob when he's healthy. 

Great win, Assembly looked like it was rocking last night. There''s no place like it! 

[mdn82]

We have a star in TJD. He just doesn't act like one, which is the best kind of star to have in college basketball.

Couldn’t be more true on both of your statements.


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[MoyeNeeded]

3 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Yet he plays on the... wing. But I guess DeMar DeRozan isn’t a wing because he shoots midrange and at the rim.


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This discussion is getting old! Doesn't make a freaking difference what position you call it. He is out there doing what we need him to do. 

[bigrod]

Didn't you guys learn anything from Crean? They're just positionless basketball players.

[Walking Boot of Doom]

Looking at FSUs 3PT percentage doesn't tell the whole story of our 3PT defense. Without those three mistakes leaving FSU with near open 3's, they would have gone 4-16. I think overall the Hoosiers did a great job of closing out and applying pressure on the perimeter outside of those first couple minutes to start the second half.

[Bobman1]

Love this win and love this team! Devonte obviously can’t produce that type of game every night but I seriously think he’s improved in every facet and has bought in for his senior year. TJD is a monster and Smith is another excellent piece. The defense looked terrific last night and Franklin/Durham’s poise when facing the press was impressive.

However, the one thing I’m worried about, and I could very well be wrong and hope to hear your guys’ opinions is that we might be a bit too reliant on the charity stripe. We haven’t played a game away from home yet and I’m afraid we can’t expect to get to the line and maintain this free throw rate on the road. Once again, don’t mean to be a debbie downer at all, the team will be a serious contender for Big Ten title but I’m just interested in the board’s thoughts.


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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

I remember when I expected the Hoosiers to win every game no matter who they played. If they lost, it was because they had a bad game. The other team was never better. Of course gas was a quarter a gallon and you could get a Coke for a nickel from the vending machine.

Damn, you are as old as me! [emoji16]

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[Brass Cannon]

4 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

Looking at FSUs 3PT percentage doesn't tell the whole story of our 3PT defense. Without those three mistakes leaving FSU with near open 3's, they would have gone 4-16. I think overall the Hoosiers did a great job of closing out and applying pressure on the perimeter outside of those first couple minutes to start the second half.

Very true. And honestly while it’s not great if 7–19 is a bad night for our 3 point defense I can live with it. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

So after going 2 for 2 on guards outplaying their rankings. What’s your assessment on the 2020 class?

Have they really outplayed their rankings though? Based on production, I’d say they haven’t. They have both been serviceable players as freshmen. Thats what low end 4 stars, high end 3 stars are supposed to be.

Now, both are smart, well coached, capable, and seem poised for solid careers.

I think Trey Galloway is gritty, tough, smart, and athletic. I’m not sure how we will use him, but I’m happy to have him.

Leal can make shots, is he strong/tough enough for B1G or will he be more of an off ball shooter?




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[8bucks]

 
No, but not because it couldn't happen.
We have a very very different team. Last year's collapse has no relevance to this year. Can teams develop chemistry issues and collapse? Sure, and when ya least expect it. But, it doesn't happen often when a team is as balanced and seemingly well-constructed as this one is, and unless and until something goes wrong, there's no need to fret...
just enjoy the ride!
 

To be fair, did you honestly feel last years team had chemistry issues and might fall apart right after the Marquette game? I did not.


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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

Jim Delaney won’t make it to heaven. That guy is a terrible human being.


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Why?

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[HoosierAloha]

Have they really outplayed their rankings though? Based on production, I’d say they haven’t. They have both been serviceable players as freshmen. Thats what low end 4 stars, high end 3 stars are supposed to be.

Now, both are smart, well coached, capable, and seem poised for solid careers.

I think Trey Galloway is gritty, tough, smart, and athletic. I’m not sure how we will use him, but I’m happy to have him.

Leal can make shots, is he strong/tough enough for B1G or will he be more of an off ball shooter?




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If Leal can defend at a similar level as Anderson while being an off ball shooter he’ll contribute as a freshman. If Anderson continues the solid defense while knocking down open looks we’ll have two dependable shooters. That’ll be a new piece we really haven’t had under Archie.

I’ll take the gritty, tough, smart, and athletic Galloway too.

The thing I’m most excited about with the 2020 class is them coming into a better culture. I believe next summer and early fall will be filled with some battles between returning players and freshmen. It’ll do nothing but help the program.


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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

The media won’t talk much if any about this game, but we played awesome tonight.


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The boys on Inside College Basketball were all singing their praises this morning. I don't know about ESPN. I rarely watch Sportscenter.

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[Walking Boot of Doom]

Why?

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Don’t ask Fk always has extreme hatreds of various people. I’m sure it’s over some way that Delaney has purposefully wronged Indiana because Delaney specifically hates us blah blah blah