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CrossboneIU22

2019 Off-Season IU Roster News and Moves

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Loaded Chicken Sandwich    8,881

Loaded Chicken Sandwich
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Wait, slashing is a perimeter skill? I could see it if you were catching a taking a few dribbles but I want to see a Troy Williams baseline catch, one step, and a throw down!


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Well you can’t slash from the block. And how many were yelling at their TV’s to tell Troy to stop dribbling? Probably everyone. But he was a great slasher and did improve a little as a playmaker even though he was still a bit out of control.


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Loaded Chicken Sandwich    8,881

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That’s where I’ll disagree. The things you think will improve his NBA stock and help IU I don’t. His ability to throw up 3s will not happen here. He is shooting 1 per game. Like you said 4 more per game makes that big of a difference. No NBA scout is going to care he made 4 more shots throughout a season.  If you watched his form during warmups or during a game it does not feel normal for him at all. I will also disagree with you on your assertion to HF that shooting isn’t a “natural” thing. I just don’t know how to explain that differently but it just is once you get your mechanics set. If you are a Junior in college having that many issues getting that feel you will have issues going forward due to habits. The dude was airballing free throws. Yet we expect him to improve in a year where the line gets back? I have been called a sunshine pumper for years. But dude I can’t even find a spin on this to have any semblance of positivity or any reason to think him hitting 4 more 3’s in a season would remotely help him or this team. 
Edit: I did not cherry pick my Vic comparison. It wasn’t even my comparison. That was Joes comparison. Joe discussed his sophomore to junior jump. I am not bringing freshman numbers into an argument when they weren’t the one discussed. Why would I? Justin clearly regressed as a sophomore. Archie has never been a coach to have players improve their shooting. Why should I expect it to be that way in this scenario?
 
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I don’t remember saying anything about Vic. I think someone else did. I compared him to Mo Harkless. Because he fits into the mold. Harkless, Al-Farouq Aminu, Andre Roberson, Luc Mbah a Moute. Guys that are good defenders who can still improve from the outside but it isn’t exactly necessary because of the intangibles they have. There are specialist in the NBA and some guys who have never heard of and never thought should have made it, make it. How many people thought Royce O’Neal and Torrey Craig would be starters in the NBA on two of the best teams?


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Walking Boot of Doom    18,170

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I don’t remember saying anything about Vic. I think someone else did. I compared him to Mo Harkless. Because he fits into the mold. Harkless, Al-Farouq Aminu, Andre Roberson, Luc Mbah a Moute. Guys that are good defenders who can still improve from the outside but it isn’t exactly necessary because of the intangibles they have. There are specialist in the NBA and some guys who have never heard of and never thought should have made it, make it. How many people thought Royce O’Neal and Torrey Craig would be starters in the NBA on two of the best teams?


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Justin Smith needs Vic’s attitude and work ethic if he wants to make the league regardless of role or coaching. The reason most of the board doubts he can improve or make the league is because we have not seen that fire or attitude.

Maybe he is truly hardworking and dedicated behind the scenes, but I have no faith until proven otherwise.


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ap2345    9,014

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Justin Smith has to be a threat to shoot a jump shot or else he won’t be an effective slasher. The reason is that if he isn’t a threat to shoot the 3 or a pull up jumper than his defender will sag off playing constant help side at rim line or in a gap depending on the opposing teams defense.


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Loaded Chicken Sandwich    8,881

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Huh?

Where should Justin Smith finish when he’s slashing? (I’ll give you a hint, it’s not on the perimeter)


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You do understand that slashers start from the perimeter right? Trying to play Smith on the block only is only going to make him fail. More than Hollowell failed while Crean was trying to make him be Watford 2.0.


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jk34    1,105

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14 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:


You do understand that slashers start from the perimeter right? Trying to play Smith on the block only is only going to make him fail. More than Hollowell failed while Crean was trying to make him be Watford 2.0.


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I believe Crean was trying to make Hollowell Isiah 2.0

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HoosierAloha    30,077

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You do understand that slashers start from the perimeter right? Trying to play Smith on the block only is only going to make him fail. More than Hollowell failed while Crean was trying to make him be Watford 2.0.


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Is catching the ball and dunking it more like a post move or a player shooting from the perimeter?

If LeBron James catches it on the block, takes a few dribbles AWAY from the basket, and shoots a three is that a post or perimeter move?


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Loaded Chicken Sandwich    8,881

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Is catching the ball and dunking it more like a post move or a player shooting from the perimeter?

If LeBron James catches it on the block, takes a few dribbles AWAY from the basket, and shoots a three is that a post or perimeter move?


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You don’t have the ability to “slash” from the block. Was Shaq considered a slasher? How about Montrezl Harrell? No. But they caught it on the block and dunked it right? What didn’t they do though? Slash. Because perimeter players are slashers. Not post player. But I guess we can start considering them slashers from now on.


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