TOM CREAN FIRED

[Trish]

49 minutes ago, madtownhoosier said:

As if we didnt already have enough to talk about, Jay Bilas just said he thinks the next IU coach will be Greg Marshall

 

That would be worse than Alford. 

[cljones1979]

Just now, Cheaney40 said:

Why?  I'm not sure I follow.  

temperment

 

[cljones1979]

im in agreement with some of you on here that if we cant get one of the top guys on our list then let crean stay for another year. but for the love of god do not give him an extension. in another year maybe stevens or donovan will be ready to come back to college. a lot can happen in a year

[Old Friend]

13 hours ago, ap2345 said:

So why is he the only one that is believable that is willing to share this information?

No idea.   Not everybody who has any kind of inside scoop or who knows someone is willing to share what they know.  I'm sure not.

[Brass Cannon]

2 minutes ago, cljones1979 said:

im in agreement with some of you on here that if we cant get one of the top guys on our list then let crean stay for another year. but for the love of god do not give him an extension. in another year maybe stevens or donovan will be ready to come back to college. a lot can happen in a year

No no no no. Crean can't stay. The cupboard will be bare in a year it's not right now. 

And no if Donovan didn't come now he's not coming. 

[Sknits nad]

5 minutes ago, cljones1979 said:

temperment

 

Exactly, we just fired our football coach who had a similar temperament.  Glass isn't going to immediately hire another one, especially as the face of IU basketball.

[RobPoff]

Tell them you are there to talk to his agent and see the panic 

 

The people here (in Dayton) really don't care about college basketball. Some people didn't even know Archie won coach of the year in the A10. Dayton doesn't deserve him and neither does other that school in Columbus.

 

Come to where basketball is KING, Archie. I can already see the tshirts with you name on them!

 

 

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[Maynard]

I would take Marshall in a half second.  Under no circumstances can Crean stay another year.  I would take a year of an interim coach before abother year of Crean.  Hell go after Tony Bennett head assistant  (Sanchez?)  he was once an assistant at IU and has to have learned something in the last 8 years! 

[theriverpilot]

13 minutes ago, Sknits nad said:

The Wilson firing closed the door on Marshall.  Glass won't let it happen.

I agree

[Capt. Crimson]

31 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I'm with Stuhoo, regarding age as my only real deterrent.

Only 3 years older than Donovan *shrug*

[Old Friend]

3 minutes ago, cljones1979 said:

im in agreement with some of you on here that if we cant get one of the top guys on our list then let crean stay for another year. but for the love of god do not give him an extension. in another year maybe stevens or donovan will be ready to come back to college. a lot can happen in a year

We do not need a "top guy."  We do not need a name.   We do not need a guy who's got a pedigree.  We need a basketball coach who fits.  Who recruits kids with high basketball IQ instead of just kids with ball skills.  We need kids who will buy into defense (let's face it, Butler went to two straight title games under Brad Stevens because they were top 3 defensive teams both years.  The first season, no team scored more than 61 points against them ALL SEASON until Duke scored 62 in the final) and the communication that goes with it.  See: Ronald Nored, Kelsey Barlow.  Neither close to the athlete Blackmon or Newkirk are; but both understood positioning, hands in passing lanes, and simple effort.

We need kids who will make good decisions with the ball and value each possession.  We need kids who buy into what the coach says and not (like Blackmon) refuse to go into the huddle during a timeout.  We need a mix of kids who are good with the ball and kids who know how to play without it.  We need big men who have good post footwork and don't need to shoot 3's. 

A coach who can get those things done, along with x's and o's and all the PR stuff will win at Indiana.  It does not have to be Billy Donovan.   I don't follow anything closely enough to tell you who that guy is, but Sampson and Crean were both "names" who had been to a recent final four and had "pedigree."  Indiana needs to get this hire right; not worry about whose name is on the list.

[VO5]

I think the people who dislike Marshall would quickly change their tune when we start winning 25 games a year, compete for conference titles, and go to a couple final fours. Marshall would be an excellent hire and is right there with Bennett and Archie for me.

[seihoosier]

Not condoning Marshall's action, but have any of you read the background as to "why" he went off?  Or did you just watch the video?  Wasn't Wilson fired because of forcing players to play hurt?  Or humiliating them in the locker room?  And even more serious accusations?  

As far as the Marshall moment of crazy, did any of you read this article about it?

http://www.sbnation.com/2016/8/10/12421760/college-basketball-video-wichita-state-gregg-marshall-ejection-referees

[Tom White]

5 minutes ago, Old Friend said:

We do not need a "top guy."  We do not need a name.   We do not need a guy who's got a pedigree.  We need a basketball coach who fits.  Who recruits kids with high basketball IQ instead of just kids with ball skills.  We need kids who will buy into defense (let's face it, Butler went to two straight title games under Brad Stevens because they were top 3 defensive teams both years.  The first season, no team scored more than 61 points against them ALL SEASON until Duke scored 62 in the final) and the communication that goes with it.  See: Ronald Nored, Kelsey Barlow.  Neither close to the athlete Blackmon or Newkirk are; but both understood positioning, hands in passing lanes, and simple effort.

We need kids who will make good decisions with the ball and value each possession.  We need kids who buy into what the coach says and not (like Blackmon) refuse to go into the huddle during a timeout.  We need a mix of kids who are good with the ball and kids who know how to play without it.  We need big men who have good post footwork and don't need to shoot 3's. 

A coach who can get those things done, along with x's and o's and all the PR stuff will win at Indiana.  It does not have to be Billy Donovan.   I don't follow anything closely enough to tell you who that guy is, but Sampson and Crean were both "names" who had been to a recent final four and had "pedigree."  Indiana needs to get this hire right; not worry about whose name is on the list.

This echoes my thoughts really well. Great post.

[pumpfake]

I'm curious about GM's "temperament".  I'm aware of his meltdown in Canda, but that's the only issue I'm aware of.  Are there other instances or a reputation for such? (I have no idea one way or the other).

Also, I thought I read that part of the CKW dismissal involved a problem with the hooch and forcing players to play when they weren't healthy.

[Hoosierfan2017]

That's the first time I've seen the video. Looks like how Crean would react if someone told him he had to stop keeping track of deflections. 

[triple]

1 minute ago, RockRattler said:

(((Rosenberg)))

Dear National Writers,

My currently unmet expectations for the coach at IU are (1) a focus on fundamental skills like passing, (2) a structured approach to teaching and deploying team defense, (3) a level of preparedness to adjust when 'run-n-gun' or 'dribble-drive' or 'perimeter passing' fails offensively,  (4) substitution patterns that increase the odds of success and (5) a recruiting strategy that includes more middle ground between 'a gazillion offers to top talent in hopes some will bite' and 'one in five gambles might be a diamond in the rough'.

For the record, IU fans are less concerned about the win counts under Tom Crean than about the lost-opportunity-to-win counts.  Our moans and groans happen throughout each and every game, ot just when the buzzer sounds after a losing effort (these days most of us have tuned out or walked out by then). 

Perhaps the next time you decide to lecture us, you could do us a favor first and actually watch some of our games with an eye towards spacing, movement off the ball, help defense, etc.. 

Sincerely,

An IU Fan

[cljones1979]

kinda quiet on the rumor/insider stuff today. any news from janitor or 0708 recently?

 

[recker222000]

Lmao. Greg doyel is getting destroyed on twitter by IU fans about him saying crean shouldn't be fired.

I wrote him on his iu delusions a few months ago. He blocked me. He can't handle the heat.

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[HOOsier Thunder]

21 minutes ago, Maynard said:

I would take Marshall in a half second.  Under no circumstances can Crean stay another year.  I would take a year of an interim coach before abother year of Crean.  Hell go after Tony Bennett head assistant  (Sanchez?)  he was once an assistant at IU and has to have learned something in the last 8 years! 

Sanchez would be an excellent hire, but I can't imagine him being considered at IU for his first head coaching job.  He is an excellent recruiter and has been with Bennett for Bennett's entire career after getting his master's at IU and serving as a volunteer assistant for 2 years.

http://insider.espn.com/blog/ncbrecruiting/on-the-trail/insider/post?id=15109

17. Ron Sanchez, Virginia Cavaliers

Perhaps the most unassuming figure on this list, Sanchez has never been one to take credit for specific recruits. What’s undeniable though is that he’s been by Tony Bennett’s side from his first day as a head coach at Washington State and followed him to Virginia. Along the way he’s developed a keen eye for talent and, specifically, what it takes to thrive in Bennett’s system. From Klay Thompson in 2008 to Kyle Guy in the 2016 class and numerous others in between, Sanchez has proven he can spot talent and land commitments from almost anywhere in the country.