TOM CREAN FIRED

[Stromboli]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

It doesn't make any sense to me. He can't use the "we're an academic school so that's what we're focused on, athletics come second" reason because plenty of fine academic schools also have great athletics. Athletics are the best marketing tool a school has. Duke is a great institution but the average guy walking down the street knows about it because of its basketball program. Without it, they're just another school. 

Right.  And we're paying the basketball coach over $3 million a year.  So obviously it's not that we don't value athletics.  We do.  We're just not getting a return that matches our investment.

 

[jman301]

Is it more likely if they wait longer that he stays or gets fired?


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[Dalton26]

Just now, jman301 said:

Is it more likely if they wait longer that he stays or gets fired?


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I dont think it favors either because that makes me think that a decision still hasnt been made.

[TrueHoosier62]

4 minutes ago, Uwe Robb said:

Hate to say it, but definitely agree with Dakich saying Myles Brand had a huge sack.

 

If Glass had half the Sack Brand did Crean might not have made it to the BTT.

Saying someone has a huge sack is only relevant if what they used it for was a just cause. Otherwise, they're only trying to make a name for themselves. When I heard Bob Knight's comments the other day, about hoping everyone associated with the University who was a party to his dissmissal "was dead", Miles Brand immediately came to mind. Karma was certainly at play there.

[Hoosierfan2017]

2 minutes ago, Aaron said:

As I said read what I wrote about Butler on the previous page and you will see their is 0% of IU deemphasizing athletics.

There might not be any deemphasizing athletics but we sure aren't getting our money's worth. We pay our coach a top-ten salary and give him the highest recruiting budget in the conference and this is what we get out of it. We spend all this money and we've been the 5th or 6th best program in our own conference. Maybe deemphasizing isn't the right word, but we've been doing something wrong. 

[ap2345]

I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't true.

[P92]

I suspect the delay is due to Glass waiting till this thread gets to 1000 pages.

 

[Trish]

I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't true.

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[Stromboli]

I'm done with rumors.  

[Brass Cannon]

4 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't true.

This fits

[pumpfake]

After taking a 13 hour sabatical, this scenario is what I'm going with:

There were talks with Donovan's representatives and Billy is definitely interested, but not willing to discuss or make a decision until his season is over.  Fred is all about making the home run hire and sending shockwaves across the college basketball landscape, so he plans on doing nothing until OKC is done for the year.  He is allowing Crean to stay on or leave of his own accord - until he gets a decision from Billy or the buyout drops.  It's his gamble, he'll either make an amazing hire or save some cash, appoint one of the assistants as interim coach and spend the entire season searching for a top coach.

Until this happens I'll just be eagerly awaiting April 16th when the Easter Bunny will come to my house.

[Aaron]

6 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

There might not be any deemphasizing athletics but we sure aren't getting our money's worth. We pay our coach a top-ten salary and give him the highest recruiting budget in the conference and this is what we get out of it. We spend all this money and we've been the 5th or 6th best program in our own conference. Maybe deemphasizing isn't the right word, but we've been doing something wrong. 

Completely agree. I have no way of knowing how good we will be or whether we do things competently. I was just saying there is 0% athletics get de-emphasized or having funding cut as a poster indicated with Butlers situation being an important example of what happens to presidents who become hostile towards athletics (big difference from staying out of it and letting tohers lead which is what McRobbie has done so far).  

[mark1981]

Just now, pumpfake said:

After taking a 13 hour sabatical, this scenario is what I'm going with:

There were talks with Donovan's representatives and Billy is definitely interested, but not willing to discuss or make a decision until his season is over.  Fred is all about making the home run hire and sending shockwaves across the college basketball landscape, so he plans on doing nothing until OKC is done for the year.  He is allowing Crean to stay on or leave of his own accord - until he gets a decision from Billy or the buyout drops.  It's his gamble, he'll either make an amazing hire or save some cash, appoint one of the assistants as interim coach and spend the entire season searching for a top coach.

Until this happens I'll just be eagerly awaiting April 16th when the Easter Bunny will come to my house.

I thinking/hoping for the same.  I just wish he would go ahead and get rid of CTC. Who cares.  We will do just as good with an interim coach if we have to.

[Trish]

After taking a 13 hour sabatical, this scenario is what I'm going with:
There were talks with Donovan's representatives and Billy is definitely interested, but not willing to discuss or make a decision until his season is over.  Fred is all about making the home run hire and sending shockwaves across the college basketball landscape, so he plans on doing nothing until OKC is done for the year.  He is allowing Crean to stay on or leave of his own accord - until he gets a decision from Billy or the buyout drops.  It's his gamble, he'll either make an amazing hire or save some cash, appoint one of the assistants as interim coach and spend the entire season searching for a top coach.
Until this happens I'll just be eagerly awaiting April 16th when the Easter Bunny will come to my house.

If Crean isn't fired Friday, he's staying. Crean probably already firing up the Jet to go look at a recruit from Oregon.


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[ItsIndiana3]

I get some of those scenarios above, but if he was set on keeping him, why not announce it sooner rather than later? He could go the 2015 route where he says Crean has always been the coach, and we all made a story about nothing, I guess?

The trustees/boosters slowing him down is obviously plausible, but the silence is deafening right now. 

[Iubravos]

If Fred can't get this figured out by himself, he needs to go.  He definitely is part of the issue.  I can't believe how incompetent an AD can be.  I won't be happy until he is gone as well.  I hate both of them.

[nerdvana]

7 minutes ago, Stromboli said:

I'm done with rumors.  

I keep saying that and, yet, here I am.

[Aaron]

2 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

This fits

So this 'rumor' about Glass announcing yesterday (no idea if I believe it) was put on hold by trustees. If that's the case maybe trustees were leaving it to Glass hoping he made the right decision. Then when they heard he planned on keeping him they got involved and told him change your mind or you are out also and now a lot of posturing is going on between Glass and the higher ups over Crean. Wouldn't doubt this but hard to know if a rumor is to be believed. 

[Trish]

Who hired Glass?


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[CrossboneIU22]

2 minutes ago, Aaron said:

So this 'rumor' about Glass announcing yesterday (no idea if I believe it) was put on hold by trustees. If that's the case maybe trustees were leaving it to Glass hoping he made the right decision. Then when they heard he planned on keeping him they got involved and told him change your mind or you are out also and now a lot of posturing is going on between Glass and the higher ups over Crean. Wouldn't doubt this but hard to know if a rumor is to be believed. 

Its probably what he was on the phone about at the Indy airport terminal when he looked so intense or concerned.