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IU Basketball: Who is leaving? Who is staying?


IndyHutch
  • It's clearly a question on the minds of most Indiana basketball fans now that the 2015-16 season has come to an end. Of the players with eligibility remaining, who will be in an Indiana uniform come the fall of 2016? Here is my take.

Let me begin by saying this is speculation. Educated speculation, but speculation nonetheless.

If there's one thing I've learned in my 18 years covering Indiana basketball it's that nothing is as simple as you would think it is. 

Players come and players go. Players that you think aren't transferring end up doing just that. Players that you're sure are definitely gone end up returning for another season.

And so until we have heard a final decision I won't go to the bank with any of this. But it's late March and once you're eliminated from the NCAA Tournament this is the kind of topic that begins weighing on the minds of Hoosier Nation.

Should I stay or should I go?

Let's throw out some names and get some opinions. Please feel free to weigh in on any of these guys. If you think I'm wrong, say so. If you think I'm right, you can agree, too. But I'm hoping we get some good discussion going on this one.

1. TROY WILLIAMS

Options: He could go to the NBA, go overseas, graduate from IU at the end of this semester and transfer to another school and play right away or return to Indiana for his final season of eligibility.

What I think he'll do: My guess is that Troy will be looking to collect a paycheck. Whether that's in the NBA or overseas, I'm not sure. But I'm guessing he's gone. I think the least possible option would be to transfer to another school. I think if he decides to play his final year of eligibility he would do so at Indiana. That's just my feeling. Is he ready for the NBA? I don't think so but no one is asking me either. Something just tells me though that if he hears any positive feedback at all from NBA folks that he'll probably make himself eligible for the NBA Draft. Again, it's just an opinion.

2. THOMAS BRYANT

Options: He go make himself eligible for the NBA Draft or he could return for his sophomore season at IU.

What I think he'll do: I think Bryant comes back. I think he likes school and he sees that he can improve if he sticks around and puts in the effort that he would need to put in. If he has a big year as a sophomore I think he's probably gone, just like Cody Zeller did. I know that Bryant has gotten some love from some of the draft boards but I just think if he had one more solid season that he could do a lot for his draft stock. Will he listen to what all of the NBA people have to say? Absolutely. But I think he's a pretty smart young man and he'll look at next year and realize how much of a dominant force he could be on that team.

3. JAMES BLACKMON JR.

Options: He could make himself eligible for the NBA Draft, transfer to another school and sit out a year, or return to Indiana.

What I think he'll do: I've heard the transfer rumors and they just don't make sense to me. I think Blackmon Jr. really has two options: He either goes to the NBA or he returns for one more season at Indiana. And again, I think the highest percentage here has him returning to IU. I can't imagine a lot of NBA people telling him that he should come out after what transpired from an injury standpoint this season. But the transfer rumors just make no sense to me at all. The only way he would transfer would be if he opted to go the Division II route but why would you do that? I can't imagine him transferring to a D1 school and sitting out another year. It just makes absolutely no sense to me. I think he's back in an IU uniform next season.

4. OG ANUNOBY

Options: Declare for the NBA Draft or return to IU for his sophomore season.

What I think he'll do: I know people cringe just seeing his name here but OG has been getting some love. I think he'll be at Indiana next season though. He may even be there a few more years. I think with a few more years of seasoning, OG could be a dynamic player both at this level and the next one. Again, I'm sure he'll listen to whatever people are saying but my guess is that he'll be back and will be part of the starting rotation.

5. TIM PRILLER

Options: Stay or go.

What I think he'll do: The only reason I put him on here is because I was on a radio show in Indy on Monday and was asked about him by Jake Query on 1260 WNDE. My answer there was depending on who is returning and what the scholarship numbers situation is, I guess he could be a casualty. But I really don't know. I think a lot will depend on what players leave and what players decide to stay. Unless you see him contributing at some point to this IU basketball team other than being the Victory Cigar, though, I just question how you can continue to allow him to occupy a roster spot.

So those are five players to think about. What do you think? 

Do you they stay or do they go?

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I agree. A frontcourt of OG, DD, and TB would be top 3 in the country. A senior Williams would be nice to have but I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep if he were to decide to go pro. I wish him the best of luck and I hope he has success. Im just really excited about our frontcourt next year with or without him. Juwan Morgan is going to be monster for us as well. Major mismatch, being able to handle and shoot the ball really well. Swiss Army knife.

He got really limited monutes ecause of injury and depth but he has a lot of talent and has the most potential i think to breakout this year. Like you said his ball handling and shooting abilities make him a do it all player

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I personally think Bryant should stay. It sounds like his range could be anywhere from the 20's to even the mid-second round. That's a wide range. I just think if he came back and improved in his pick and roll defense and showed even more of a jumper, and then improves elsewhere as a sophomore should, he could work himself into the late-lottery next year. 

That's a much more secure proposition for him.

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The difference of 24th-40 and 8-14 with an extra year is a chance I'd almost definitely take if I was TB, but if I assume he is gone which I don't like. I think Troy is gone as well. Expect both to announce this week, but Troy won't hire an agent.

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I wasnt ever impressed with stone at all. Just saw him as kind of a dissapointment and very limited upside. Dont know if thats just me or not

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He had a few good to monster games but Maryland didn't seem connected all season. It appeared they would go through times they would force it into Stone but there wasn't any movement around him. Other times they completely forgot about him and just bombed away from deep. Melo was found out after his frosh season and struggled to find a balance between setting up teammates, shooting, and snapping his head back.

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He had a few good to monster games but Maryland didn't seem connected all season. It appeared they would go through times they would force it into Stone but there wasn't any movement around him. Other times they completely forgot about him and just bombed away from deep. Melo was found out after his frosh season and struggled to find a balance between setting up teammates, shooting, and snapping his head back.

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That team should have been crazy this year, huge dissapointment

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Helps that Stephen Zimmerman from UNLV declared and is hiring an agent.  More big man competition in the draft although I'll admit that I have no idea how the NBA would compare the 2 players.

Also Diamond Stone appears headed to the draft so again, how does the NBA compare Bryant / Zimmerman / Stone plus any other big men who may be available?

Add Thon Maker to that list. Seems there is a rich pool of bigs on this draft. Fingers crossed TB decides to return.

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13 hours ago, HoosierAloha said:

How connected is your source? Like others, if I'm not guaranteed lottery I wouldn't hire an agent. I'm not sure of Bryant's situation though, maybe being a first rounder is what he's needed to hear in order to declare and hire an agent. I really hope he is back in candy stripes next season but regardless best of luck!

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Well connected. Hopefully they're wrong this time, though. I agree it makes no sense to hire an agent this early on in the process. 

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2 hours ago, KB0 said:

Well connected. Hopefully they're wrong this time, though. I agree it makes no sense to hire an agent this early on in the process. 

First off thanks for the info ! I appreciate posters who share what they know/ have heard . I guess I'd wonder how a well connected source['s] could be wrong ? Has your source or sources been wrong before with their info ? No IU fan wants TB to leave this year so don't take this a  "shoot the messenger" type post. I'm just not hearing or reading this info anywhere else. Maybe the situation is in Flux based on who declares etc. Anyway, thanks for the info , even if it's not what anyone likely wants to hear.

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I agree that NBA staff can get you better faster BUT you have to be good enough to make the roster and hold the roster spot to continue to get that service. Very few D league players go on to successful long term NBA careers. They are often forgotten about by the time the next draft rolls around.

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10 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I agree that NBA staff can get you better faster BUT you have to be good enough to make the roster and hold the roster spot to continue to get that service. Very few D league players go on to successful long term NBA careers. They are often forgotten about by the time the next draft rolls around.

Which is why I think he comes back. He will declare and not hire an agent. NBA will tell him he's late first round at best. He'll come back. I believe he will have enough people around his tell him he doesn't want sent to D league to be forgotten.

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Which is why I think he comes back. He will declare and not hire an agent. NBA will tell him he's late first round at best. He'll come back. I believe he will have enough people around his tell him he doesn't want sent to D league to be forgotten.

This is my belief, as well. But, do not know who is advising, beyond Crean,and staff.

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35 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I agree that NBA staff can get you better faster BUT you have to be good enough to make the roster and hold the roster spot to continue to get that service. Very few D league players go on to successful long term NBA careers. They are often forgotten about by the time the next draft rolls around.

Absolutely agree. Cannot be on the fringe

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It would also be nice if our student athletes consider the value of staying long enough to obtain, or be within close reach of obtaining, a college degree.

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2 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

It would also be nice if our student athletes consider the value of staying long enough to obtain, or be within close reach of obtaining, a college degree.

Given the current structure and NBA rules, it isn't beneficial at all for certain players to even come close to getting a degree. The kids didn't make the rules, the adults did. 

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8 minutes ago, hoosierpap said:

Given the current structure and NBA rules, it isn't beneficial at all for certain players to even come close to getting a degree. The kids didn't make the rules, the adults did. 

Mostly true.

If a player is top 15, there's lots of guaranteed money, and a future knee injury can't change that.

If a player isn't top 15, a knee injury after getting that agent can lead an immature 19 year old down a very, very rocky road.

IMO, players develop better in the pros than in college. Add that to the fact that Troy has his degree; and I think he oughta go. TB is not likely top 15; I think he oughta stay. 

 

PS: The rules that the 'adults' made...suck.

 

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I think there is a good chance both move on. Troy will go with whatever feedback he gets, even if it's probably D league or overseas. Bryant has an opportunity to be 1st round this year or next whether he stays or goes. I think he leaves because next year's draft is stacked. When I saw Bryant 's head on Crean's shoulder that told me he is sad his college journey is over , not oh well we will get them next season.


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I think McSwain is Troy's replacement but no sign of a TB replacement yet. May be good news. TB was so up and down this year I think the right big grad transfer could be as productive as Bryant will be. What I dont want is to have to count on Davis as our low post presence. 

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