WayneFleekHoosier Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 I’m not changing my pick to Kansas yet. Holding strong on Vandy. Haha. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
BGleas Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 40 minutes ago, Feathery said: Nobody knows anything. All the Kansas talk is still guesses. This! I fully expected Kansas talk to pick up this week simply because their season is over and two guys declared. But, the Kansas talk is actually based on zero real information from the Langford camp. It’s based on nothing but guesses and feeling. Not saying Kansas is or isn’t the pick, but any perceived momentum or even crystal ball picks this week aren’t based on any actual information from the people making the decision. HoosierHoops1, chicagoHOOSIER, thebigweave and 3 others 5 1 Quote
HoosierX Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, BGleas said: This! I fully expected Kansas talk to pick up this week simply because their season is over and two guys declared. But, the Kansas talk is actually based on zero real information from the Langford camp. It’s based on nothing but guesses and feeling. Not saying Kansas is or isn’t the pick, but any perceived momentum or even crystal ball picks this week aren’t based on any actual information from the people making the decision. But it is based on actual information, that Newman and Vick went pro. Some people are acting like nothing changed when in fact something did. It’s not that far fetched that Romeo was waiting to get a better handle on the playing time situation there. People are saying the Langfords have already considered the potential for this to happen and I totally agree, but that consideration could have been if Vick and Newman go pro then Kansas is the spot. I have no idea whether PT at Kansas is/was a concern for him. Maybe it’s doesn’t matter at all, but it also may be of major consequence. It’s definitely not good. chicagoHOOSIER 1 Quote
BGleas Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, HoosierX said: But it is based on actual information, that Newman and Vick went pro. Some people are acting like nothing changed when in fact something did. It’s not that far fetched that Romeo was waiting to get a better handle on the playing time situation there. People are saying the Langfords have already considered the potential for this to happen and I totally agree, but that consideration could have been if Vick and Newman go pro then Kansas is the spot. I have no idea whether PT at Kansas is/was a concern for him. Maybe it’s doesn’t matter at all, but it also may be of major consequence. It’s definitely not good. But it’s not based on any actual information from the Langford’s. Nobody knows what impact that has on their decision making process. So something like changing a crystal ball because Newman and Vick went pro is a guess, not a change based on information from the recruit or anyone in his camp. Pits not from a reporter with sources saying he was told this was something Langford was waiting on, it’s a guess. thebigweave, cappymo14, Iugradman and 1 other 4 Quote
cappymo14 Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 But it’s not based on any actual information from the Langford’s. Nobody knows what impact that has on their decision making process. So something like changing a crystal ball because Newman and Vick went pro is a guess, not a change based on information from the recruit or anyone in his camp. Pits not from a reporter with sources saying he was told this was something Langford was waiting on, it’s a guess. Agree here. It’s important to remember that the speculation about Langford pushing his commitment back until after his post season games, had something to do with him waiting to see what would happen at Kansas, was just that....Speculation. It was a theory created on a fan message board by a fan...Probably this board in fact. I would caution against getting over excited by this theory. It’s compelling yes, for that matter so was the “backlash” theory. There is no concrete evidence to support the argument. That said, do I wish there was equal evidence to refute the theory? Yes. But, there isn’t. For now I’m putting it away in the same file as the “Vandy-backlash” argument. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app chicagoHOOSIER, Iugradman and BGleas 3 Quote
HoosierAloha Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 IU has requested that Romeo visit last. There was talk about possible visit to Vandy before he decides. Has KU requested he visit or have an in home? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners chicagoHOOSIER 1 Quote
HoosierX Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 56 minutes ago, BGleas said: But it’s not based on any actual information from the Langford’s. Nobody knows what impact that has on their decision making process. So something like changing a crystal ball because Newman and Vick went pro is a guess, not a change based on information from the recruit or anyone in his camp. Pits not from a reporter with sources saying he was told this was something Langford was waiting on, it’s a guess. Everything is a guess, who is saying otherwise? But for someone to say “this doesn’t change anything” there’s no way to know that. MikeRoberts 1 Quote
Stuhoo Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 But it is based on actual information, that Newman and Vick went pro. Some people are acting like nothing changed when in fact something did. It’s not that far fetched that Romeo was waiting to get a better handle on the playing time situation there. People are saying the Langfords have already considered the potential for this to happen and I totally agree, but that consideration could have been if Vick and Newman go pro then Kansas is the spot. I have no idea whether PT at Kansas is/was a concern for him. Maybe it’s doesn’t matter at all, but it also may be of major consequence. It’s definitely not good.Not true-in my opinion nothing has changed: those two guys were always very likely to have been gone from KU at the end of the season.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app BGleas, thebigweave, ThompsonHoosier and 4 others 7 Quote
BGleas Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, HoosierX said: Everything is a guess, who is saying otherwise? But for someone to say “this doesn’t change anything” there’s no way to know that. Things aren’t always a guess. It’s possible to have sourced information. There’s nothing sourced, the KU guys didn’t change his pick because he’s heard that it is influencing Langford, he changed his pick because he’s taking a guess that it might. It’s not based on anything known about the Langford’s decision making process. Iugradman, chicagoHOOSIER and Maedhros 3 Quote
dbmhoosier Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 Just now, Fkfootball1 said: Would you guys be cool with us winning a Championship, if you knew we cheated but also knew we wouldnt get in trouble? I would. I have no shame. I guess it depends on what you mean by cheating. A few extra phone calls? Bumper stickers? Sure, I'd look the other way. But strippers and cash payments to players? No way. I'd rather do things the right way and have no title. ThompsonHoosier, Walking Boot of Doom, HinnyHoosier and 4 others 7 Quote
Cheaney40 Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 Kansas insider flipped his crystal ball pick from Vandy to Kansas today.On the bright side, that officially puts IU in the lead (for now)Sent from my XT1650 using BtownBanners mobile app Feathery, Deserthoozier and Josh 1 2 Quote
HoosierX Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 46 minutes ago, BGleas said: Things aren’t always a guess. It’s possible to have sourced information. There’s nothing sourced, the KU guys didn’t change his pick because he’s heard that it is influencing Langford, he changed his pick because he’s taking a guess that it might. It’s not based on anything known about the Langford’s decision making process. I don't think we are saying anything that is mutually exclusive. My point is that it's tough to say with any reasonably certainty that Vick and Newman going pro is a non issue, because of the point you made...we don't know what factors the Langfords are considering. BGleas and MikeRoberts 2 Quote
HoosierX Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Stuhoo said: Not true-in my opinion nothing has changed: those two guys were always very likely to have been gone from KU at the end of the season. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app It still needed to actually happen even if they thought it was going to. What if they both stayed? You don't think that could have potentially affected his decision? The only way "nothing has changed" is true is if he never cared what they did in the first place. That very well could be the case, but none of us have any way of knowing that. Quote
BGleas Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 22 minutes ago, HoosierX said: I don't think we are saying anything that is mutually exclusive. My point is that it's tough to say with any reasonably certainty that Vick and Newman going pro is a non issue, because of the point you made...we don't know what factors the Langfords are considering. Absolutely, what we’re saying isn’t much different. Newman and Vick going pro might help Kansas, or it might not. We don’t know. I’m just saying a Kansas writer doesn’t either, and switching his crystal ball is no real indicator of anything. chicagoHOOSIER, thebigweave, HoosierX and 1 other 4 Quote
MikeRoberts Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 Things aren’t always a guess. It’s possible to have sourced information. There’s nothing sourced, the KU guys didn’t change his pick because he’s heard that it is influencing Langford, he changed his pick because he’s taking a guess that it might. It’s not based on anything known about the Langford’s decision making process. Curious, you don’t think it is possible that was a conversation between the KU staff and the Langford’s? It very well could have been and these insiders could know that. Just because there wasn’t an article written quoting the Langford’s doesn’t mean nothing has changed and that they are guessing.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app chicagoHOOSIER 1 Quote
Popular Post TheWatShot Posted April 7, 2018 Popular Post Posted April 7, 2018 Reading some of these posts makes my brain feel tired. I can't recall this level of mental gymnastics during the Zeller recruitment. I can't wait for this to end. Capt. Crimson, Class of '66 Old Fart, swingline91 and 7 others 10 Quote
HinnyHoosier Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 Nonsense arguement.... scholarship would have been found for RL at KU even if these two didn't leave. Sent from my Moto Z (2) using BtownBanners mobile app If the decision to go to Kansas hinged on whether or not they could find a scholarship for him, then yes, it's a senseless discussion; they'd pull one out of the NCAA's arse if they had to. But because it's likely heavily based on the division of playing time, everyone can assume this clarifies things for Romeo as his decision looms. Everyone can also assume this is nothing but positive for Kansas. My point earlier is that some media sources and 90% of fans are presenting the situation as if the Langfords hadn't already evaluated this decision with the scenario of ample playing time at Kansas in mind. I think we can all agree they've done just that. It's not a shocking new development to Romeo that flips this situation on it's ear. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app woodenshoemanHoosierfan, lillurk, chicagoHOOSIER and 1 other 4 Quote
jonz44 Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 10 hours ago, Fkfootball1 said: Would you guys be cool with us winning a Championship, if you knew we cheated but also knew we wouldnt get in trouble? I would. I have no shame. I don't think so. mamasa, IUBBFan1970 and ALASKA HOOSIER 3 Quote
yogisballin Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 Can you please ask your cousin to share some of that good stuff he's on? #PuffPuffGive#SharingIsCaringSent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app ALASKA HOOSIER, NCHoosier and SlamaJamaSisley 2 1 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 Would you guys be cool with us winning a Championship, if you knew we cheated but also knew we wouldnt get in trouble? I would. I have no shame. If what you mean by cheating is allowing shoe companies and agents to get ahold of players early like the rest of these power conference teams then absolutely not. Id rather not have to deal with any of it, so when the one and done rule is abolished it will hopefully set up a slightly different climate. But it’s not 1960 anymore and a lot of these successful schools are playing under the “new set of rules”. I’m a very moral type person to the extreme. The reason I fall on this side of the basketball debate is I truly believe these kids deserve some money. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Hoosierfan2017 1 Quote
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