Darian DeVries - New IUBB Head Coach

[Ryno6284]

13 hours ago, Ryno6284 said:

We, as a board, really need to come to a consensus on what we are going to call coach!  DD is Dan Dakich, so no.  I've seen D3, CDD, DDV.

My vote would be for CD3. What say you, BTB?

This got completely glossed over last night! Lol

[Uspshoosier]

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2025/03/20/indiana-basketball-search-quiet-darian-devries-coach/82555704007/
sorry if it’s behind paywall but I was able to read it 

[IndyFife]

39 minutes ago, theriverpilot said:

No offense to the WVU faithful, but it's actually a good sign to see them all up in arms and upset with his leaving.  I remember the Crean hire and some in the Marquette fan base basically thanking IU for pulling Crean away.

I have an even more personal story that aligns with this on the very day he was announced: a buddy of mine from undergrad grew up in Wisconsin and was a HUGE Marquette guy.  Entire family went there and his uncle played ball there.  Got a call from him the second it hit the wires with hysterical laughter and a comment that basically everyone wanted him fired anyway.  And an ominous: good luck.....lol

[TheBigLebowski]

20 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

I was thinking about the portal and the timing... what if it's about parity? The better schools are still playing in the tournament, and the coaching staffs will be more focused on the tournament games ahead of them... but the coaches at the schools who didn't make the dance or that are already eliminated will be able to more fully focus on the portal... this would make more sense for the pro level, though, as their players would be able to play as long as they were able, as opposed to the limited 4-5 year playing period for college kids.

Or, maybe it's a push towards the GM model - coaches be coaching, and the GMs can be working the portal and making contact with players.

Or, maybe you're right. :D 

Portal signings, at least contacts with players and schools, has been ongoing for some time.  The GM model you mention already exist, to some degree, at most schools already.

Edited March 20, 2025 by TheBigLebowski

[Motley's]

9 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2025/03/20/indiana-basketball-search-quiet-darian-devries-coach/82555704007/
sorry if it’s behind paywall but I was able to read it 

For the DeVries is Archie crowd:

Indiana asked, for example, whether a head coach successful in a certain job had inherited any of that success, or built it from scratch.

There was a method behind that: The university was burned when it hired Archie Miller in 2017, then perceived to be a promising young coach, only for Miller to flop in Bloomington after four years without an NCAA Tournament appearance.

Decker’s number crunching picked up on the fact that Miller had more or less sustained success at Dayton, rather than built it — Brian Gregory won 97 games in his final four seasons coaching the Flyers, before handing off to Miller, who won 90 in his first four years there.

DeVries compared favorably in that analysis. Drake had won just 40 games in the four years before he arrived, compared to 95 in his first four years. 

His work at West Virginia covered a smaller sample size but showed similar results.  In his first season in Morgantown, DeVries’ team won 10 more games than in the previous season — it was the largest single-season turnaround in program history — six more in Big 12 play, and the Mountaineers showed demonstrable improvement in defensive metrics in particular. 

[Chris007]

3 minutes ago, TheBigLebowski said:

Portal signings have been ongoing for some time.  The GM model you mention already exist, to some degree, at most schools already.

Yeah GM is just a more fancy word for recruiting coordinator if I'm not mistaken. 

[TheBigLebowski]

19 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

The collection of players vs a team is a by-product of Woodson's laissez-faire approach to recruiting. Just get a pile of money and go rent the 4- and 5-stars regardless of how the pieces fit. He may have gotten the positions covered (guards, forwards, centers), but no clue if they would mesh... thus the "still getting to know one another" comments throughout the past 4 years.

Very “pro-like”………don’t you think?

[jermhoosierfan]

13 hours ago, JustWinBaby said:

 

The way he breaks it down is pretty much spot on.  WVU is a place that someone can be for a long time and be comfortable if you can win there, but if a Kansas, IU, UNC, or Duke calls you and asks if you are interested, you take the call and listen.  The Kiffen to USC is a pretty much spot on comparison.  My ex is from Tennessee and her family was PO'ed that Kiffen left, but I understood seeing it was his dream job.  In hindsight, he probably screwed up, but when that opportunity presents itself, you have to take that chance.  I am glad we were on the side we are on.

[IvanRenkosillegitimatechild]

1 hour ago, GP711 said:

DDV is active in the portal. I believe when is all said and done we will be a preseason top 25 team:)

Obviously then you gotta perform i think he will. 

1. How many players does everyone think we need in the portal?
2. How many high school recruits does everyone think we bring in?

3. Who does everyone think that Coach D-Rock keeps from the current team?

[Alford Bailey]

11 minutes ago, Motley's said:

For the DeVries is Archie crowd:

Indiana asked, for example, whether a head coach successful in a certain job had inherited any of that success, or built it from scratch.

There was a method behind that: The university was burned when it hired Archie Miller in 2017, then perceived to be a promising young coach, only for Miller to flop in Bloomington after four years without an NCAA Tournament appearance.

Decker’s number crunching picked up on the fact that Miller had more or less sustained success at Dayton, rather than built it — Brian Gregory won 97 games in his final four seasons coaching the Flyers, before handing off to Miller, who won 90 in his first four years there.

DeVries compared favorably in that analysis. Drake had won just 40 games in the four years before he arrived, compared to 95 in his first four years. 

His work at West Virginia covered a smaller sample size but showed similar results.  In his first season in Morgantown, DeVries’ team won 10 more games than in the previous season — it was the largest single-season turnaround in program history — six more in Big 12 play, and the Mountaineers showed demonstrable improvement in defensive metrics in particular. 

I get what he’s saying here but had to look it up. Archie had a higher winning percentage than both Gregory or Grant though not by a lot.

[JustWinBaby]

58 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

DDv will be my method of choice 

The... the V is capitalized though...

[Chris007]

7 minutes ago, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

1. How many players does everyone think we need in the portal?
2. How many high school recruits does everyone think we bring in?

3. Who does everyone think that Coach D-Rock keeps from the current team?

This is just a guess. But 3 high school kids Sisley and 2 from WV. Then 10 portal guys and none from the current roster. 

[Silat Player]

42 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Selection Sunday and therefore Mod of the Year voting has passed so, NO.

 

(jk, if someone wants a keyboard shortcut thrown in there I'll take suggestions)

Never too early to get a jump on next year's voting...

[IvanRenkosillegitimatechild]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

This is just a guess. But 3 high school kids Sisley and 2 from WV. Then 10 portal guys and none from the current roster. 

So the Bosnia kid I guess really isn’t good so CDR isn’t gonna pursue him you think?

[JustWinBaby]

39 minutes ago, RoadRage said:

I'll throw CDV out there......

CDV is my vote. Rolls off the tongue way better if you sound out CDD vs CDV. Also looks better visually, and IMO gets the point across more effectively since the V in his name is unique (not a lot of V names out there) and identifiable, and as mentioned before, the V in his last name is actually the first letter of a noun (the "De" just means of/from, "Vries" is a proper noun placename). In Dutch the "de" would not be capitalized -- his name would be stylized "Darian de Vries" for instance.

CDD will always annoy me and I'll never use it. I'd rather just type out his last name personally. But that's just me.

[CSP]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

This is just a guess. But 3 high school kids Sisley and 2 from WV. Then 10 portal guys and none from the current roster. 

I didn't think Hawthorne had decommitted? 

[CSP]

Just now, IvanRenkosillegitimatechild said:

So the Bosnia kid I guess really isn’t good so CDR isn’t gonna pursue him you think?

CDR? 

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I didn't think Hawthorne had decommitted? 

MacLean and Odih have

[Dave from Dayton]

5 minutes ago, Motley's said:

For the DeVries is Archie crowd:

Indiana asked, for example, whether a head coach successful in a certain job had inherited any of that success, or built it from scratch.

There was a method behind that: The university was burned when it hired Archie Miller in 2017, then perceived to be a promising young coach, only for Miller to flop in Bloomington after four years without an NCAA Tournament appearance.

Decker’s number crunching picked up on the fact that Miller had more or less sustained success at Dayton, rather than built it — Brian Gregory won 97 games in his final four seasons coaching the Flyers, before handing off to Miller, who won 90 in his first four years there.

DeVries compared favorably in that analysis. Drake had won just 40 games in the four years before he arrived, compared to 95 in his first four years. 

His work at West Virginia covered a smaller sample size but showed similar results.  In his first season in Morgantown, DeVries’ team won 10 more games than in the previous season — it was the largest single-season turnaround in program history — six more in Big 12 play, and the Mountaineers showed demonstrable improvement in defensive metrics in particular. 

The third paragraph misrepresents what happened the last two years at Dayton and why Brian Gregory left.  Sure, he won a lot.  But not in conference.  The last two years of Gregory's coaching at Dayton resulted in dropping completely out of the picture of competing at high levels in the ACC.  He went from 2nd to 7th and 8th in the conference and only got one NCAAT bid in his last 7 years there.  Recruiting had dried up.  For the University of Dayton...they saw no reason to extend the contract and Gregory knew he was on a slippery slope.  Brian Gregory jumped ship as UD contemplated making him walk the plank.  

Miller came in and the cupboard was bare.

According to Wiki: Miller became the head coach of the Dayton Flyers men's basketball team in 2011 and turned around a program that had back-to-back disappointing seasons. His first season with Dayton saw Miller take the school to 20 wins. In his third year, 2014, he had the Flyers in the Elite Eight with 26 wins; to get there, Dayton upset three higher seeded teams. After the Elite Eight run in 2014, Miller faced replacing three starters and four seniors from that team. Despite having a depleted roster featuring just six players who were recruited to Dayton and no active player taller than 6-foot-6, Miller led his Flyers to a 27–9 overall record and to the third round of the 2015 NCAA tournament.

Miller's short stint at Dayton was the 2nd best coaching job at that university...second only to Don Donoher.  

I loved Miller's work at Dayton.  It did not translate to the big time at IU.  In my humble opinion...he was not a good fit.  But IU administration did not seem to support him in many ways relative to building his team.

Archie Miller had to go.

 

[Brass Cannon]

21 minutes ago, Motley's said:

For the DeVries is Archie crowd:

Indiana asked, for example, whether a head coach successful in a certain job had inherited any of that success, or built it from scratch.

There was a method behind that: The university was burned when it hired Archie Miller in 2017, then perceived to be a promising young coach, only for Miller to flop in Bloomington after four years without an NCAA Tournament appearance.

Decker’s number crunching picked up on the fact that Miller had more or less sustained success at Dayton, rather than built it — Brian Gregory won 97 games in his final four seasons coaching the Flyers, before handing off to Miller, who won 90 in his first four years there.

DeVries compared favorably in that analysis. Drake had won just 40 games in the four years before he arrived, compared to 95 in his first four years. 

His work at West Virginia covered a smaller sample size but showed similar results.  In his first season in Morgantown, DeVries’ team won 10 more games than in the previous season — it was the largest single-season turnaround in program history — six more in Big 12 play, and the Mountaineers showed demonstrable improvement in defensive metrics in particular. 

Inject this in my veins