Adam Howard No Longer On Staff

[Josh]

1 hour ago, iu eyedoc said:

Have any of those you've fired been offered another position not under your supervision immediately after you fired them by your superior?  I think that is a validation that the firing was more personal than professional.

 

Certainly not.  Please remember though we're only hearing the side from the one who was fired.  I'm not convinced Dolson offered him a job.

I'd think if you ask a hundred fired people you'd hear 100 stories about how they were done wrong and it was just one or two awful people within the organization that did them in.  I know I've had some that have said this

[Stuhoo]

20 minutes ago, iu eyedoc said:

So you are saying Dolson wanted CMW back this last off season? That QB and the mega donors didn't dictate retaining him?

I’m saying that they likely agreed that given a still big buyout and a fourth year that’s pretty much always given unless a coach doesn’t make any tournaments, finishes below .500 overall, or has major disciplinary problems… Woody should get another year.

And after this year those reasons to keep him are mitigated.

[coonhounds]

I’m saying that they likely agreed that given a still big buyout and a fourth year that’s pretty much always given unless a coach doesn’t make any tournaments, finishes below .500 overall, or has major disciplinary problems… Woody should get another year.
And after this year those reasons to keep him are mitigated.

Is it possible to agree to the premise of your statement but have a gut feeling keeping him was a much bigger mistake than they thought?

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[WayneFleekHoosier]

I’m saying that they likely agreed that given a still big buyout and a fourth year that’s pretty much always given unless a coach doesn’t make any tournaments, finishes below .500 overall, or has major disciplinary problems… Woody should get another year.
And after this year those reasons to keep him are mitigated.

Not getting Dusty May, might be the biggest problem in this plan.

However, if Woody can have a strong year and go out “on top” that would be great for all parties involved.

Very curious what’s going on in the mind of Scott Dolson as to future plans.


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[IUFAN1976]

I know exactly what is going on here!  The football team now being 10-0 they are now getting all of the attention and Woodson is upset that him and his basketball team will get less attention.  And he’s also afraid that IU will become a football school and that frustrated him, so he took it out on Howard!

[Stuhoo]

1 hour ago, iu eyedoc said:

So you are saying Dolson wanted CMW back this last off season? That QB and the mega donors didn't dictate retaining him?

I don’t know—I wasn’t there.

But I’m saying that it is likely that Dolson had the same conundrum that Adam Howard had; he was allowed to state his case, his bosses heard him out and decided to go in a different direction than his recommendation, and that he was mature enough to live with his boss’s decision.

 

[Hovadipo]

34 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Very curious what’s going on in the mind of Scott Dolson as to future plans.

A second deck on the east side, upgraded press box, and taking Mellencamp to the bones and rebuilding. Potentially even making that a football-only complex including offices, meeting rooms, etc. 

[Home Jersey]

4 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

A second deck on the east side, upgraded press box, and taking Mellencamp to the bones and rebuilding. Potentially even making that a football-only complex including offices, meeting rooms, etc. 

Inject this straight into my veins 

[Golfman25]

46 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

 

Not getting Dusty May, might be the biggest problem in this plan.

However, if Woody can have a strong year and go out “on top” that would be great for all parties involved.

Very curious what’s going on in the mind of Scott Dolson as to future plans.


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“Where the F am I going to get the money to pay Cig.?”  :)

[Banksyrules]

4 hours ago, iu eyedoc said:

I think Dolson knows where things stand internally, he is just been neutered when it comes to being able to do anything about it.

He won’t be when we make the College Football Playoff.  New donors will arise and he’ll have way more support to fire Coach Woodson.  

[Stuhoo]

3 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Dolson is not neutered.
It’s Woody’s last year, win big or lose big. 
Let’s hope it’s a great one.

 

Or maybe not even that long! lol 

[Hoosierfan2017]

If Woodson was a likable, hardworking, successful coach, this would be a total nothing burger. He’s none of the 3, and that’s why there’s an 11 page discussion about firing a young staffer. Firing Howard encapsulates everything wrong with the Woodson administration. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Dane Fife was right early.  Adam Howard was right late.  This is rinse and repeat of all of his teams. 

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[Hovadipo]

11 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Hahaha that’s an epic troll. Can’t even be mad. 

[HoosierMatty]

I really don't care about basketball right now. Part of that is because the Football team is rolling, but mostly because of Woodson. We have the talent to win the Big Ten but we will finish 5 or 6th in the conference because of Mediocre Mike. It's sad the guy is a former player but he's doing more right now to burn down last bit of fandom I have. He's worse than all the previous bad hires. My hope is after this pathetic season is over that Dolson is allowed to finally get this right. The Cignetti hire should give him all the leverage he needs.

[HinnyHoosier]

5 minutes ago, HoosierMatty said:

My hope is after this pathetic season is over that Dolson is allowed to finally get this right. The Cignetti hire should give him all the leverage he needs.

#freeScottDolson

[AZ Hoosier]

6 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Dolson is not neutered.
It’s Woody’s last year, win big or lose big. 
Let’s hope it’s a great one.

 

Dolson was neutered last year. Then he grew a pair and fired Allen/hired Cignetti... hopefully they are still growing so he can get rid of The Mediocre One and hire a real coach for the basketball team.

[Josh]

1 hour ago, HoosierMatty said:

I really don't care about basketball right now. Part of that is because the Football team is rolling, but mostly because of Woodson. We have the talent to win the Big Ten but we will finish 5 or 6th in the conference because of Mediocre Mike. It's sad the guy is a former player but he's doing more right now to burn down last bit of fandom I have. He's worse than all the previous bad hires. My hope is after this pathetic season is over that Dolson is allowed to finally get this right. The Cignetti hire should give him all the leverage he needs.

Agree with a lot, but worst hire title still belongs to Archie

[AZ Hoosier]

2 minutes ago, Josh said:

Agree with a lot, but worst hire title still belongs to Archie

Not sure I agree. Sure CAM was a train wreck, but a lot of folks thought Archie could succeed here. Woodson was 100% a courtesy nepotism hire by Buckner, et al.