Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[94Bulldog 745]

Those pointing out none of his WV players followed him other than his son as a red flag, 1) how do we know he wanted any of them at IU?  2) I think assistant coach/player relationships are being heavily discounted. 3) It’s April 13th. 

[Jet812 567]

  On 4/13/2025 at 3:06 AM, Uspshoosier said:

You could probably take that back to the Crean years as well.   Besides a couple of good runs he mostly was middlE of the pack.   Other programs have stepped up while IU struggled over the last 20 years.  Those programs put in money to compete and equal the playing field.   Bad coaching, bad players, bad administration and other programs stepping up moving up the ladder while IU dropped.  Sucks for young fans like you however that’s your program you are invested in. Just a middle of the pack B1G program that doesn’t stick out from the rest.  Other teams used to be intimidated by the name now 0 programs in the B1G are scared of IU and the mostly expect to beat them.   Kid from Rutgers a couple years said it on a podcast. Nobody is scared or cares about IU. Just another team and we expect to win every time we play them.   Embrace the grind to getting out of the middle of the pack 

People being scared of your program doesn’t win or lose games, nor does the name on the jersey.  Two things matter, coaching & players.  We have had enough good players to be better than we have been many times over the past decade.  Everything else is just noise & excuses.  If DD is a good coach & we get good players, IU can be near the top of the BIG next year.  If either of those two isn’t true or doesn’t happen, then likely not.  It’s pretty simple.

[str8baller 7,501]

  On 4/13/2025 at 11:36 AM, Stuhoo said:

Wasn’t that the expectation, whether he commits to IU or not? (Answer: yes; it was)

Not for some posters. There’s a belief among some that if a player takes more visits they’re unlikely to sign. I don’t particularly share that belief but a fair amount of players do seem to sign during their visit. 

[Golfman25 6,791]

  On 4/13/2025 at 3:44 AM, DChoosier said:

Maybe he will meet someone at Kilroys that will make him want to commit to IU.

#whateverworks

Rick Pitino enters the chat.  :)

[Ctf9 453]

  On 4/13/2025 at 5:13 AM, AH1971 said:

The only thing IU has right now is money…but so do 15-20 other schools. When you haven’t been relevant in 30 years but still demand blue blood results, you’re expectations are never going to jive with reality.

Thanks for the reply—makes sense. I am hoping for a season like West Virginia one last year. But maybe a lot of fans are expecting more. 

[newcastle12 355]

  On 4/12/2025 at 11:46 PM, akumanina said:

Wilkerson camp got an offer from Coach DeVries. So this number will be the hurdle for the other 3 teams. My WILD guess is that coach might've offered him 2.5M (3M max). Wilkerson is a really good prospect (almost a can't miss prospect) who fits our system well. 

Yeah and if the other schools weren’t willing to meet that he wouldn’t have taken the visit. 

[newcastle12 355]

  On 4/13/2025 at 5:27 AM, AH1971 said:

Same reason why Nebraska football hasn’t been relevant in decades.

-impossible to replace legendary coach

-absurd/delusional fan expectations 

-multiple programs have simply closed the gap if not entirely passed us up

People are going to BYU and picking that voluntarily and they’ve never been relevant so this is just bad observation. 

[str8baller 7,501]

  On 4/13/2025 at 12:20 PM, Ctf9 said:

Thanks for the reply—makes sense. I am hoping for a season like West Virginia one last year. But maybe a lot of fans are expecting more. 

So like the one Woody had last year? 
 

I’m hoping for a little more progress than that. 

[JF87 2,149]

I'm not worrying about assembling a roster.  We'll end up getting 14-15 players.  I hope the guys we get fit DeVries style of play.  I also hope the players want to be at IU.  I'm not interested in a guy just looking for the biggest payday.  We just had a roster of those players.  Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against paying a player market value.  I do worry that overpaying a good, but not great, player could negatively affect the locker room.

[Juwan Moye 1,212]

Zero worries here. 

[IUCrazy2 2,976]

  On 4/13/2025 at 3:46 AM, iubb said:

See the shitshow that is the Nico Iamaleava saga

https://awfulannouncing.com/college-football/ryan-clark-dont-blame-nico-iamaleava-tennessee-ncaa.html


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If we were all being honest, having this stuff attached to Universities is a complete joke.  I would be lying if there wasn't a certain part of me that kind of hopes this all implodes.

[bigrod 3,182]

I can only speak for myself, but in my opinion, this has to be a hard sell to the type of players DD is looking to recruit: players who want to win. This is a total roster reconstruction. Lots of these players want to be one of the final pieces of an already successful roster. 

Honestly, I'll be pretty happy with a record similar to this past season if we are seeing players who want to be here and play like they care about winning, and a coach who puts them in the best position to do that. We don't have to be elite in the next couple years, but it would be nice to see a team that makes you want to cheer for them, and is leaving it all on the court, win or lose.

Its almost never as bad as some make it out to be, and probably rarely as good as others want it to be. Enjoy the journey. Hopefully, in a couple years, we all look back at this time and laugh about how terrible we thought it was.

And if not, get some therapy ;)

[HoosierTrav 8,337]

  On 4/13/2025 at 1:53 AM, Uspshoosier said:

 Burn it down.   IU can’t field a team 1 month into the coach being hired.  Time of death for IU basketball?

Indiana Basketball has been a corpse since the Crean firing. 

[bigrod 3,182]

  On 4/13/2025 at 1:16 PM, HoosierTrav said:

Indiana Basketball has been a corpse since the Crean firing. 

I don't think Crean was a great coach, but he would do well with IU's resources in this NIL era. He needed lots of talent to win, but at least he mostly knew how to utilize it. His problem was he didn't put the time into planning and building a sustainable program. He was always looking for the next best thing, like fart in a skillet.

[Cd71 312]

 I have a buddy that works with Ryan Conwells dad and he talked to him about his visit. The only negative thing his dad said to him about the visit was that IU didn’t yet have a staff in place when they visited.  After talking to him,  his opinion was that Ryan was going to Louisville all along.  Also, in case anyone didn’t know, his parents are Purdue grads.  

[AH1971 3,185]

  On 4/13/2025 at 10:48 AM, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Florida made a good hire and got a young guy who understood the portal was the way. I listened to his interviews when he was hired. He talked portal extensively. He doesn’t have the basketball resources Indiana has but they are solid.  He got the right guys and won.

Todd Golden went 16-17 his first year at Florida as did Dan Hurley. You would lose your **** if DeVries did that next year. That’s my point.

[IUCrazy2 2,976]

  On 4/13/2025 at 11:49 AM, str8baller said:

Not for some posters. There’s a belief among some that if a player takes more visits they’re unlikely to sign. I don’t particularly share that belief but a fair amount of players do seem to sign during their visit. 

That is sales 101.

The minute you leave, the likelihood you will buy from that person drops dramatically.  It doesn't drop to zero but it makes closing the deal more difficult.

[Golfman25 6,791]

Hate to break it to some of you, but I think CDD has more Dane Fife in him than he does Mike Woodson.   Woodson threw money out there and we know how that ended.  I think CDD accepts the money aspect of it, but is more interested in fit and putting together a team of players.   I don’t see him just paying guys to pay guys.  And guy emphasizing the money may be one of his red flags.  It is what it is at this point and all we can do is see how it all works out the next few weeks.  I remain cautiously optimistic 

[Scotty R 3,682]

  On 4/13/2025 at 10:48 AM, WayneFleekHoosier said:

NIL era changes everything. Nothing pre-post NIL is comparable.  Even the best teams (besides Purdue) rebuild their rosters every year.  Louisville was abysmal and a total laughing stock. Far worse than we have been. They had resources and made a good hire and flipped it within a year.  
 

Florida made a good hire and got a young guy who understood the portal was the way. I listened to his interviews when he was hired. He talked portal extensively. He doesn’t have the basketball resources Indiana has but they are solid.  He got the right guys and won.

 

Indiana can do all those things.  We can Sell everything Louisville can sell. They are probably are best comparison.  
 

As far as the the Fan expectations?  If we are consistently a top 25 team, that would do it for 98% of the fanbase.  “Woodson made tournament 2 years and got ran off” isn’t exactly accurate.  I think most people were ok with year 1. Although barely made tournament then got thrashed.  Year 2 was a solid year, probably about what the fanbase expects every year.  Didn’t meet their own expectations but it was fine. Year 3 began with some optimism and hope for more “modern” basketball.  That season rightfully lost the fanbase.  Year 4, a chance to reclaim the fanbase was all the same stuff.  
 

The fans want a top 25 level team.  Dusty did it.  Pope did it. Kelsey did it. Now all those guys are killing it and on path to be top 10 programs.  This is what the fanbase wants.  Not national championships. Just national relevance. It’s attainable as mentioned by these 3 coaches and programs. 
 

Optics-DeVries is already off to a rocky start. But it’s how you finish.  He does need to have a good/great season.  With the ability to pay for a top 10 paid roster, he should be able to have a good season.  He just needs to figure it out.  

Funny you brought up Florida as an example to make your point because the guys they got in the portal wasn't considered big time recruits. Two of them were 0 stars coming out of HS and a couple others were ranked 200+. They got their transfers from FAU, Belmont and Iona. I bet tbe Florida fans weren't thrilled when they signed these players but it worked out in the long run. Give the coach a chance before you guys decide to jump off the bridge 

[Ctf9 453]

  On 4/13/2025 at 12:52 PM, str8baller said:

So like the one Woody had last year? 
 

I’m hoping for a little more progress than that. 

Well I'm factoring in the injuries -- if those don't hammer WVU, I feel like they're more like a 22-10, 24-8 kind of team, with a good shot at winning one or two games in the tournament. 

I also feel like Woodson's teams were always less satisfying to watch than their records -- it was so obvious that with a better coach, there would be better results. If we squeak into the tournament while also seeing good coaching and development across the season, I would take that for sure.