Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[CSP]

1 minute ago, Golfman25 said:

Whether we did or didn't, we still missed out even though we have a bigger NIL than God.  Things are going great.   

Ehhh 

[Unexpectedflash]

2 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Whether we did or didn't, we still missed out even though we have a bigger NIL than God.  Things are going great.   

TBF even the best coaches miss out on players. The overall roster building strategy of going after a 29% 3 point shooter when we have galloway who can't shoot is infuriating.

[triple]

1 minute ago, Unexpectedflash said:

TBF even the best coaches miss out on players. The overall arbitrary roster plugging attempt building strategy of going after a 29% 3 point shooter when we have galloway who can't shoot is infuriating.

Concur with the sentiments but I think you (unintentionally) overstated how IU operates these days, so I fixed it for you. :)

[Feathery]

The idea that we have a giant war chest is amusing to me. Yup we have a ton of money but need to buy a roster of players. Other programs can focus their money on 1-2 players, so don’t need the massive war chest that IU supposedly has. 

[AZ Hoosier]

Just now, Feathery said:

The idea that we have a giant war chest is amusing to me. Yup we have a ton of money but need to buy a roster of players. Other programs can focus their money on 1-2 players, so don’t need the massive war chest that IU supposedly has. 

Yeah, that's all BS to me. Sure the others have a war chest similar in size to Indiana's... but they each need a player or two, not more than half of an NCAA team. 

[Ghost of Rick Majerus]

1 hour ago, 68Hoosier said:

any news on the current visits and how they are going, or did I miss them?

 

I haven't heard much of anything on that front. 

[AH1971]

If the NIL budget is in fact $6 million we should be in pretty good shape and possibly a reason why IU hasn't overpaid for anyone just yet. Iowa boards are suggesting that Tony Perkings is looking for around $300k. $300-400k for a multi-year starting P5 who averaged double-figures and plays defense seems like a bargain. These players jumping in the portal who all think they are getting a million dollars are more than likely going to be in for a rude awakening. There just isn't a market that supports those kinds of figures. 

[CSP]

11 minutes ago, Feathery said:

The idea that we have a giant war chest is amusing to me. Yup we have a ton of money but need to buy a roster of players. Other programs can focus their money on 1-2 players, so don’t need the massive war chest that IU supposedly has. 

I'm fairly certain Ware had a massive deal.  We get that money back.  

[Golfman25]

27 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

TBF even the best coaches miss out on players. The overall roster building strategy of going after a 29% 3 point shooter when we have galloway who can't shoot is infuriating.

Mediocre Mike is in a class all by himself missing on players.  :)  

[Home Jersey]

29 minutes ago, Unexpectedflash said:

TBF even the best coaches miss out on players. The overall roster building strategy of going after a 29% 3 point shooter when we have galloway who can't shoot is infuriating.

Yeah, it's not that missing out on Foster is so bad. It's that the approach to recruiting seems to be throwing **** at the wall and seeing what sticks. We rely on being more talented than other teams with this play style, and the staff has not done a good job of evaluating talent (on the roster or recruiting trail). We're casting a wide net and unlikely to land the talent we actually need. Instead we will out spend and overpay for, likely mediocre at best, results.

I see on Twitter to "just wait" because "there are others still playing who have not hit the portal yet, we have to be picky, don't want to fill up too quickly" (lmao NGW). There are only 16 teams left. SURELY some of the players currently in the portal would be takes. Two teams currently playing in the tournament have already landed portal commitments. I guess getting the kids on campus is nice, definitely a step in the right direction. Does it inspire any confidence for me? Nope.

It doesn't look like they know what they are doing. If they land 2 "studs" and some nice role players, I still won't be convinced they "know what they are doing." or that it's all part of some master plan... or that talent is the only issue here (its one of many). 

Edit: sorry mods, thought this was the FMW thread. I will not pile on from here.

[RaceToTheTop]

32 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Yeah, it's not that missing out on Foster is so bad. It's that the approach to recruiting seems to be throwing **** at the wall and seeing what sticks. We rely on being more talented than other teams with this play style, and the staff has not done a good job of evaluating talent (on the roster or recruiting trail). We're casting a wide net and unlikely to land the talent we actually need. Instead we will out spend and overpay for, likely mediocre at best, results.

 

I think if you followed any P5 division 1 program as closely as you followed IU you'd see the same approach in the portal.  IMO, IU contacted too few portal players last year and didn't have any plan B in mind and this season IU has to replace more spots than in the past. 

Take a look at Kansas, for example.  They've contacted (probably more than just this list, but these have been public):  Michael Ajayi, Ja'Kobi Gillespie, Jeff Nwanko, Jayden Stone, Leland Walker, Jalen Leach, Brandon Garrison, Clark Slajchert, Amari Williams, Gibson Jimerson.  Of note is that I believe two of those have already committed to other schools now, one is a JUCO player and another played for one win Detroit Mercy.

 

[Home Jersey]

Just now, RaceToTheTop said:

I think if you followed any P5 division 1 program as closely as you followed IU you'd see the same approach in the portal.  IMO, IU contacted too few portal players last year and didn't have any plan B in mind and this season IU has to replace more spots than in the past. 

Take a look at Kansas, for example.  They've contacted (probably more than just this list, but these have been public):  Michael Ajayi, Ja'Kobi Gillespie, Jeff Nwanko, Jayden Stone, Leland Walker, Jalen Leach, Brandon Garrison, Clark Slajchert, Amari Williams, Gibson Jimerson.  Of note is that I believe two of those have already committed to other schools now, one is a JUCO player and another played for one win Detroit Mercy.

 

Yeah, I could have worded my post better. I don't mind casting a wide net, but the fact they don't have a good track record of evaluating talent makes me think they don't actually know what they want/are looking for. Just someone rated highly who will say yes, because they trust their ability to put players in the best position to win. That's how the approach feels to me. 

[Magisterium]

1 hour ago, Feathery said:

The idea that we have a giant war chest is amusing to me. Yup we have a ton of money but need to buy a roster of players. Other programs can focus their money on 1-2 players, so don’t need the massive war chest that IU supposedly has. 

IIRC doesn’t Xavier have 1or 2 guys in the portal too? Opening for Foster fwiw

[tyappleg]

[iubb]

Hmmm

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[IndyHoops]

59 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I think if you followed any P5 division 1 program as closely as you followed IU you'd see the same approach in the portal.  IMO, IU contacted too few portal players last year and didn't have any plan B in mind and this season IU has to replace more spots than in the past. 

Take a look at Kansas, for example.  They've contacted (probably more than just this list, but these have been public):  Michael Ajayi, Ja'Kobi Gillespie, Jeff Nwanko, Jayden Stone, Leland Walker, Jalen Leach, Brandon Garrison, Clark Slajchert, Amari Williams, Gibson Jimerson.  Of note is that I believe two of those have already committed to other schools now, one is a JUCO player and another played for one win Detroit Mercy.

 

There is a huge issue comparing Kansas and IU when it comes to building a roster for next year. Yes, Kansas, and most schools, cast a wide net because portal season is so short. It’s hard to zero in on recruits when you only have a couple weeks before they commit. BUT…. Kansas has 3 top 50 high school kids coming in. They are plugging holes with the portal, not building a roster. When Kansas casts a wide net and only land one or two, they are still fine. Not IU. IU is casting a wide because they need a lot of players. There is a massive difference.

[RaceToTheTop]

6 minutes ago, IndyHoops said:

There is a huge issue comparing Kansas and IU when it comes to building a roster for next year. Yes, Kansas, and most schools, cast a wide net because portal season is so short. It’s hard to zero in on recruits when you only have a couple weeks before they commit. BUT…. Kansas has 3 top 50 high school kids coming in. They are plugging holes with the portal, not building a roster. When Kansas casts a wide net and only land one or two, they are still fine. Not IU. IU is casting a wide because they need a lot of players. There is a massive difference.

So what should IU do since they need to build through the portal, cast a small net?  I don’t like the lack of 24 recruits but you can linger on what you don’t have or try to advance forward.  The net should be a broad one.

[IndyHoops]

3 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

So what should IU do since they need to build through the portal, cast a small net?  I don’t like the lack of 24 recruits but you can linger on what you don’t have or try to advance forward.  The net should be a broad one.

Pray?  lol

Yes, they need to cast a wide net…and maybe contact some 2025 recruits?

[RaceToTheTop]

3 minutes ago, IndyHoops said:

Pray?  lol

Yes, they need to cast a wide net…and maybe contact some 2025 recruits?

I don’t disagree that they need 25 recruits but we’re talking what to do for the upcoming season.

[RaceToTheTop]

26 minutes ago, iubb said:

Hmmm
 

 

 

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Timing would seem that it’s Tucker.