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57 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

I care more about success in the NCAAs. And a lengthy run in the BTT, while nice and all, is meaningless if you then exit the NCAAs early.

No one is going to say, well, coach couldn't get us to the second weekend of the dance, but that BTT banner makes up for it.

Fully disagree. As a massive European soccer fan it’s about winning trophies. We have a chance for 3 a year. Big Ten regular season, BT Tournament, and the NCAA Tournament. We should be trying to win all 3 every year. 

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1 hour ago, EasyEJay said:

Not surprised but Xavier Booker in the portal . Hasn’t developed during his time in East Lansing . Gotta think the Drew Adams and Indiana Elite connections make him a possibility for IU if they don’t get Flory . If the staff think thier is untapped talent and potential there . Idk personally I’ll leave that to the experts . 
 

Ant Wright in X always seemed to think he wasnt getting a fair shake and should have played more in his time at MSU , 

I saw Booker as the next Jaren Jackson, boy, was I wrong.

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17 minutes ago, Asha’man said:

Fully disagree. As a massive European soccer fan it’s about winning trophies. We have a chance for 3 a year. Big Ten regular season, BT Tournament, and the NCAA Tournament. We should be trying to win all 3 every year. 

You obviously try to win every game you play.

But the idea that a coach should be judged by BTT results is, in a league like the B1G, absurd. If DDV hangs a banner, has regular second and third weekend NCAA appearances, and consistently wins regular season titles, no one is going to care about how far he advances in the BTT.

That's all I'm saying.

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5 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

You obviously try to win every game you play.

But the idea that a coach should be judged by BTT results is, in a league like the B1G, absurd. If DDV hangs a banner, has regular second and third weekend NCAA appearances, and consistently wins regular season titles, no one is going to care about how far he advances in the BTT.

How about like Dusty May this year. He choked away the regular season title but redeemed himself winning the Big Ten Tournament. It’s not an either or. And I didn’t say DDV has to win each every year. Just be in the hunt and plenty of accolades will come. And to be honest now that the conference is so big and schedules unbalanced, the conference tournament should take a bigger president on who the real champ is…see the ACC 

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2 hours ago, the_jackal said:

Too many to name, but the hub, taj, galaxie, saints, oshea's (all 3 of them), gerstles, tin roof, fox den, flanagans, garage bar, molly malones, west sixth, and several more right next to the Yum center like troll pub, merle's, barrel bar, etc. also higher end cocktail bars like Neat, last refuge, nada nada, hell or high water, north of bourbon, copper & kings, hotel genevieve, gerties. 

Didn't know much about Louisville before moving there but i was impressed with their food/bar options

Phoenix hill was a great bar.Saw a lot of good bands there.As far as walking I was good going in but struggled leaving a few times.Miss that place.

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20 minutes ago, Asha’man said:

How about like Dusty May this year. He choked away the regular season title but redeemed himself winning the Big Ten Tournament. It’s not an either or. And I didn’t say DDV has to win each every year. Just be in the hunt and plenty of accolades will come. And to be honest now that the conference is so big and schedules unbalanced, the conference tournament should take a bigger president on who the real champ is…see the ACC 

I guess I just don't see a BTT title as anywhere near equivalent to a regular season championship. There's so much luck involved in match-ups, etc., for the BTT. A 20-game regular season involves some luck too, but much less than a 3 or 4 day tournament run.

To me it's like winning the Battle for Atlantis or something. All well and good, but nothing to really hang your hat on. 

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36 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

I guess I just don't see a BTT title as anywhere near equivalent to a regular season championship. There's so much luck involved in match-ups, etc., for the BTT. A 20-game regular season involves some luck too, but much less than a 3 or 4 day tournament run.

To me it's like winning the Battle for Atlantis or something. All well and good, but nothing to really hang your hat on. 

It’s way more important than a preseason tournament. It’s also an auto bid for the NCAA’s. So it’s important for sure. You can have a preference for one over the other. But winning 1 of the 3 championships makes for a successful season imo. 

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2 hours ago, coonhounds said:

Yes that is closer to my expectations. Infact we play kentucky next year I believe. We better be getting players and building a team ready to be competitive with them. If we are losing games like that by 20 plus I will not be a happy camper. And I believe the majority won't be either. We pay players now this isn't the same atmosphere any coach has ever walked into our job in.

Sent from my SM-S926U using Tapatalk
 

Coach DD won't be happy either.  

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25 minutes ago, PartyintheVillas said:

I think Izzo did, too. I think that's a small part of the problem. Booker's game is far more like KD and Chet than JJJ and other bigs who are primary down low but can step outside.

@Demo and I met up to watch the young man play in high school. I think he’d just been crowned with a top 10 recruit ranking and the buzz was that he was oozing with NBA potential. 
 

Whew boy we both walked away knowing there was a missing piece to the constitution of Booker. His competition was about nipple height for him yet he never came down with rebounds. I remember once he got the ball in the lane and was guarded by some 6’ kid and he just kinda held the ball and passed back out. He had the height to shoot over or the skill to make a move to the hoop but just didn’t. Annoying phrase, but just no dog in him. I got the impression his teammates and even coach really didn’t like him. We don’t want him. What’s crazy is that Izzo went to watch him play in high school too and Booker rewarded him by putting up zero points. And somehow MSU fans thought they were getting something. 
 

Bidunga on the other hand, I’d love to have. Yes, he’s already proven to be more effective in college and we have the tape, but even beyond that he played hard and contributed naturally within the flow of the game. I saw him playing for Kokomo against Westfield, and while he didn’t really put on a show like Romeo or something, he came off as a great teammate and contributor. 

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20 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

I guess I just don't see a BTT title as anywhere near equivalent to a regular season championship. There's so much luck involved in match-ups, etc., for the BTT. A 20-game regular season involves some luck too, but much less than a 3 or 4 day tournament run.

To me it's like winning the Battle for Atlantis or something. All well and good, but nothing to really hang your hat on. 

I see what you're saying but I think being able to win a conference tournament shows an ability to win in that sort of win against good teams or go home format. There's no rest like the NCAA tournament but other than that they're very much alike. IU hasn't typically performed well in the BTT and it's no coincidence that during that same timeframe they also haven't typically done well in the NCAAT, if they even made it in. A single year doesn't really tell much since there is luck involved, but multiple years can show a trend.

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