They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Hornsby]

We need shooters but the shooters don't want to play in Woody's archaic system.  They want to play for a guy like Oats.  It may not matter how much money we offer.

Bingo.

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[68Hoosier]

12 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

We need shooters but the shooters don't want to play in Woody's archaic system.  They want to play for a guy like Oats.  It may not matter how much money we offer.

exactly, they want to be part of an offense that runs screens for them to get open and have shots.  Not wait until there this is nothing else and then jack up a last second 3. 

[OKHOOSIER]

10 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

wow.  LOL.  Alabama is multitasking

So the #6 overall and #1 SG is already off the board (current portal dudes). Hot start here. 

[Hornsby]

Plus, Galloway and Leal are coming back which will scare off good guards. If Cupps returns, we have no chance of landing a guard.
/s

Exactly. You think they were scared of X and Galloway last year with those three coming back there isn't a guard in the country who will want to come and sit behind them.

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[Chris007]

 

[Bowhunter]

I am a true fan of IU basketball. However, I am not a true fan of Mike Woodson.

[mamasa]

Just now, Chris007 said:

 

Man, I really thought Banks would've been a beast this season. Guess that's why I'm not a scout!

[Kentuckysucks]

 

 

[hoosierhoo]

4 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

So the #6 overall and #1 SG is already off the board (current portal dudes). Hot start here. 

But I was assured IU would get everyone we wanted immediately out of the portal because of $$. 

[JF87]

4 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

So the #6 overall and #1 SG is already off the board (current portal dudes). Hot start here. 

Chill people!  Coach has it covered.  DWS

[go iu bb]

1 minute ago, mamasa said:

Man, I really thought Banks would've been a beast this season. Guess that's why I'm not a scout!

You probably expected off season coaching to help his development.

[IUrocker]

Man, if Woodson strikes out in the portal I’m gonna feel so guilty as fan knowing it was all my fault. 

[ib4iu]

Everyone saying $6 million NIL but let’s break this down on how much we have for guys that should be seeing playing time for a competitive team. 
 

Leal - About $300k, maybe slightly higher

Cupps - if he’s leaning towards transferring, and he was a starter majority of the season, probably $400k to keep him

Newton - $150k, as Chris said that was lowest amount for anyone on the roster. 

Sparks - if he returns, probably $200-250k

we’re spending over $1 million on guys that would be probably the bottom 4 on a Kansas, Duke, UNC. 
 

Gallo, MM, MR probably will make close to 2.8 between the 3 of them. Say we’ve filled 7 roster spots and have spent almost $4m of the $6m. Doesn’t leave much leftover when you have to spend so much on the bottom guys. Probably why we’ll only have 11-12 scholarships in use 
 

[go iu bb]

Gunn entering in 3..... 2.... 1....

[Adillac]

The more and more I reflect on our situation, the more and more I realize how crappy it is. We have turned a former IU hero and Knight-era legend into a program killer. It's almost insidious what's happening here. We are damned either way- damned if we push out an IU great after 3 yrs and damned if we let him run this program into further mediocrity. 

 

[Hornsby]

But I was assured IU would get everyone we wanted immediately out of the portal because of $$. 

Not only that but Alabama is still playing. We were told iu could not play and do the portal at the same time. Unreal.

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[Hornsby]

The more and more I reflect on our situation, the more and more I realize how crappy it is. We have turned a former IU hero and Knight-era legend into a program killer. It's almost insidious what's happening here. We are damned either way- damned if we push out an IU great after 3 yrs and damned if we let him run this program into further mediocrity. 
 

We didn't turn him into anything none of us wanted him hired. Woodson and quinn did this to themselves and have now cemented their legacies.

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[JSHoosier]

2 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Not only that but Alabama is still playing. We were told iu could not play and do the portal at the same time. Unreal.

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With golf and cigars and wine Woodson's schedule is pretty packed. How could he possibly fit games AND recruiting into that?

[Adillac]

Just now, Hornsby said:

We didn't turn him into anything none of us wanted him hired. Woodson and quinn did this to themselves and have now cemented their legacies.

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i didn't mean that we the fans have turned him...i said that poorly. 

[go iu bb]

Just now, Adillac said:

The more and more I reflect on our situation, the more and more I realize how crappy it is. We have turned a former IU hero and Knight-era legend into a program killer. It's almost insidious what's happening here. We are damned either way- damned if we push out an IU great after 3 yrs and damned if we let him run this program into further mediocrity. 

 

This is why a lot of us didn't want an IU guy hired in the first place. The only way it's a win is if he wins a lot and there just aren't any ex-players who are good coaches. The best is probably Alford and he is only good at the mid-major level plus he has the Pierce baggage.

So the most likely scenario was always the one that we're seeing now. Ex-player comes in and doesn't do well. Fans get angry and turn on him but the school doesn't fire him because he's an ex-player so has friends in high places.