They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[jepwatso 213]

1 minute ago, SlammySammy said:

He has been set on assassinating his own character, IMO.

Dude is using a high-powered scope. His aim is true.

[AZ Hoosier 9,871]

51 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

At my desk at the office for another day of blowing off work and refreshing this page.  Good luck to all my follow "true fans" on not getting caught by your bosses today reading, posting and refreshing.  Cheers all and let's have a great weekend! 

Word.

BTW, I'm retired and my boss is at work. 

Now, let's get this entitled, incompetent Parasite in Chief fired...

[Hoosierfanyuh 4,414]

All star break starts next week

[OKHOOSIER 5,451]

Having slept on it, I’ve come to the conclusion it had to be Woody’s camp that leaked all the nonsense. It paints IU into a corner from a professional standpoint. Making this seem like “woody’s choice” has made it essentially impossible for IU to spot fire him. 
 

It might be about contract leverage for the buyout, but I doubt that, Woody is owed more if he is fired for performance than he will get in a negotiation. He has no bargaining position. What he has, is the ability to craft a narrative that does maximum pain to the University and maximum protection of his fragile ego. That’s where we are. Woody is not leaving the sideline unless he chooses to. Period. That’s clear (and whether Dolson wanted to spot fire or not, now he can’t ) and it is due to Woody controlling the narrative. There is simply no reason for IU to allow or want some narrative such as what leaked about “contemplating” or “unlikely to coach next season.” FOH. Zero chance that came from the university. 

[AZ Hoosier 9,871]

51 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

The guys on Facebook are demanding we show the king respect. Lol. The same king who trashed us all.

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Not surprising... I've been off that cesspool for over 10 years... would possibly miss Woodson more than I have FB, TBH*.

* neither would be missed at all

[Silat Player 1,370]

3 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

He has been set on assassinating his own character, IMO. He could have just said "Hey, I tried my best, but I just can't seem to get it done. I don't want to drag the university that I love through the mud and more losses, so I am going to step down and start my next chapter in life...retirement"...He would have been cheered and that is how he would have been remembered.... Woody chooses the hard way.

Woodson is former Hoosier great who was basically a hero for how he came back from an injury and won B1G MVP. 

The public was willing to give him every single benefit of the doubt, but he's been so incredibly thin-skinned and arrogant. He's wasted every bit of good-will available to him. 

Let's face it, Woody has not shown himself to be any sort of genius through his whole coaching tenure. Great athleticism does not equal intelligence. I'm absolutely not saying that the dumb jock stereotype is true in most cases. In Woody's case, though, I'm wondering. It's either that or he's just really lazy...

[WRSMick55 161]

16 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

As for who knows where the origin of the word “discussion” comes from or the idea Woody is “contemplating” retiring … yes, likely a degree of media not erroneously reporting. But also this was all just smoke from burners before Goodman jumped in with that wording and everyone else piled on. It could be just as simple as that, it could also be that Mike’s camp got ahead of all the rumors and said he’s “contemplating” it to make it look like he’s not getting fired. And if he doesn’t finish at end of season, as is “currently expected” while the “terms of exit are negotiated” then it will be obvious Dolson canned him. Been a lot of talk about wanting to avoid those optics, for obvious reasons. Bottom line IMO: the “contemplating” narrative is only helpful to one side and it’s not IU

Agree, just my point. People getting upset at IU because they think IU not being decisive and coddling Woodson . Don’t think any of this coming from IU administration. Do think as a past IUBB player of significance there shouldn’t be a public ***** slapping. 

[mdiu28 2,631]

1 minute ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Not surprising... I've been off that cesspool for over 10 years... would possibly miss Woodson more than I have FB, TBH*.

* neither would be missed at all

Ditto. I came to the conclusion that everyone in the FB group is a bot or on heavy painkillers all day long. There's no way to be THAT positive and cheery in the face of total mediocrity for years and years and years. 

[Artie86 3,195]

1 hour ago, ap2345 said:

He there yet?

Maybe he parked around back.....lol

[steubenhoosier 1,602]

4 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Woody showed his true character during his four years as head coach. Criticizing said demonstrated character isn’t “character assassination.” 

Agreed. But there is a way to criticize without calling someone a POS. There's always that concept of being the bigger/better person.

There's also always the idea of not allowing this board devolve into what Big Blue Nation has become, and what many on here make fun of.

[Papacap 1,555]

2 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

Having slept on it, I’ve come to the conclusion it had to be Woody’s camp that leaked all the nonsense. It paints IU into a corner from a professional standpoint. Making this seem like “woody’s choice” has made it essentially impossible for IU to spot fire him. 
 

It might be about contract leverage for the buyout, but I doubt that, Woody is owed more if he is fired for performance than he will get in a negotiation. He has no bargaining position. What he has, is the ability to craft a narrative that does maximum pain to the University and maximum protection of his fragile ego. That’s where we are. Woody is not leaving the sideline unless he chooses to. Period. That’s clear (and whether Dolson wanted to spot fire or not, now he can’t ) and it is due to Woody controlling the narrative. There is simply no reason for IU to allow or want some narrative such as what leaked about “contemplating” or “unlikely to coach next season.” FOH. Zero chance that came from the university. 

Why can’t Dolson fire him if it’s Woodson who leaked this?

[hoosierbannerd 2,887]

58 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

At my desk at the office for another day of blowing off work and refreshing this page.  Good luck to all my follow "true fans" on not getting caught by your bosses today reading, posting and refreshing.  Cheers all and let's have a great weekend! 

As a middle school teacher.. I'm a master of my own domain and my principal is an IU fan so he totally gets it...

[Hoosier DaDa 3,582]

1 hour ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Braden Smith, Jack Benter, and TKR wouldn't be Boilers, you say? Smh

Probably not Loyer, but he certainly wouldn't have been starting as a FR, maybe not last year. 

Why are you singling out certain players?  That wasn't what he was saying.  He was just talking about the approach jeez. 

[AZ Hoosier 9,871]

40 minutes ago, HoosierMatty said:

Doesn't Woodson have a media interview today because of tomorrows game? If Indiana doesn't release something before hand then Woodson will definitely be asked about it. Or is the intention to announce it during the interview?

This seems all a little messy. Especially if Woodson is being difficult about this. I don't think Indiana would want him behind a mic. 

Woodson has blown those off in the past... seems like a perfect opportunity to do it again... Or, yeah, he takes the opportunity to spin his case... the delusion is real

[Hovadipo 60,417]

Sorry if this is old news. I went back a few pages. IDS is claiming they met with the team last night and no responsibilities will change as of now.

[Muskie plays the four 680]

Sleepers was funny today clowning on Woody 

[Hornsby 3,587]

If Woodson wants ugly let's give him ugly. The damage he has done is bad enough already now he will go on a petty revenge tour.

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[WeeDerkaNaut 580]

2 hours ago, kottke said:

From my experience, losing a Woody was usually accomplished in a way that felt quite good. Maybe you've been doing it wrong? Try the other hand.

Take off your pants and jacket?

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2 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

Having slept on it, I’ve come to the conclusion it had to be Woody’s camp that leaked all the nonsense. It paints IU into a corner from a professional standpoint. Making this seem like “woody’s choice” has made it essentially impossible for IU to spot fire him. 
 

It might be about contract leverage for the buyout, but I doubt that, Woody is owed more if he is fired for performance than he will get in a negotiation. He has no bargaining position. What he has, is the ability to craft a narrative that does maximum pain to the University and maximum protection of his fragile ego. That’s where we are. Woody is not leaving the sideline unless he chooses to. Period. That’s clear (and whether Dolson wanted to spot fire or not, now he can’t ) and it is due to Woody controlling the narrative. There is simply no reason for IU to allow or want some narrative such as what leaked about “contemplating” or “unlikely to coach next season.” FOH. Zero chance that came from the university. 

Let him "control the narrative" in this way. Ultimately, it's a short term PR issue that fades away by the start of next season at the latest. It does no lasting damage to the university or program. He's out at the end of the season, and then he can go do and say whatever he wants, but he will fade into relative obscurity, and his coaching career at Indiana will be remembered for the record and results, not the way he went out. The leadership and decision makers at IU just need to stay professional and on course. Mike Woodson failed with on the court results in black and white, that will speak for itself.

I do have some small defense for Woodson that I believe he is receiving racist and threatening messages. Unfortunately, we do have that dark corner of our fanbase, like many other fanbases. However, there is no credible threat IMO, just really bad people able to talk nonsense digitally without the threat of being punched in the face for being shity racists. 

[Silat Player 1,370]

1 minute ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Woodson has blown those off in the past... seems like a perfect opportunity to do it again...

I can't imagine in my wildest dreams that Woodson is going to do that today. I would think that would be at the bottom of his list.

But I've certainly been wrong before.