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They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

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3 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

RE: Stevens, obviously sticking where he is makes the most sense on paper IMO. There are still valid reasons he could choose to come to IU though, and we know he is not deterred by general consensus of what he “should” or should not do. The Eli Lilly to Butler move proves that. Seems to me his choice would boil down to 1) minority ownership stake in one of the two most valuable NBA franchises vs 2) paid handsomely to return to his home state as a beloved figure and try to win the college title that eluded him at Butler. 

I know what I would choose, less clear to me how Brad and his family weigh things out. 

There’s a lot to like in regards to #1 in your example.  Who wouldn’t want to own the Boston Celtics?  That team has money running out its @$$ and will forever be part of NBA lore.  In regards to #2, Stevens would be revered in this state if he were to return and lead IU back to prominence.  He can’t lose either way.

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47 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

While we're waiting on the official word on Woodson, it's nice to see some national writers admitting that IU is a great program just waiting for the right coach. And also, that it just can't seem to get out of its own way...

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/as-mike-woodsons-tenure-ends-time-for-indiana-to-reboot-and-rise-again

But IU fans are not delusional or living in the past by expecting better than what they’ve gotten over the last two-plus decades. There’s no reason Indiana cannot be at least a periodic contender for national titles and Final Fours, and a regular contender in the Big Ten.

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53 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

Closed the link after I saw Alford at the top lmao

It was in alphabetical order....Thank goodness.  I give it about a negative 1000000% chance it would be Alford, but they probably still felt obligated to put him on the list.  I will quit watching IU if they do. 

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Some investigative reporter in Indiana would probably generate some notoriety for themselves by digging into the Quinn Buckner era and writing an exposé. I’m sure there is plenty to cover and probably enough publicly available info to paint a very unpretty picture. 

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1 minute ago, 4iufourever said:

It was in alphabetical order....Thank goodness.  I give it about a negative 1000000% chance it would be Alford, but they probably still felt obligated to put him on the list.  I will quit watching IU if they do. 

Moreso just a sign of a bad list alphabetical or not. lol 

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One factor to think about is a prospective coach's experience with NIL players.  We talk about how much $$ we have for NIL, but the most talented ones want money, PT, and an opportunity to showcase themselves.  I'd argue that those players are quite different than the players Stevens had at Butler.  There has to be some question of either how well he can succeed with ego-driven mercenaries or can he build more in the traditional way at IU.  IDK, but I'm inclined to believe he'd be more successful going more the traditional route.

Brad Stevens remains my #1 choice BTW.

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Some investigative reporter in Indiana would probably generate some notoriety for themselves by digging into the Quinn Buckner era and writing an exposé. I’m sure there is plenty to cover and probably enough publicly available info to paint a very unpretty picture. 
So much shady stuff went on imo it's probably unreal

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7 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Some investigative reporter in Indiana would probably generate some notoriety for themselves by digging into the Quinn Buckner era and writing an exposé. I’m sure there is plenty to cover and probably enough publicly available info to paint a very unpretty picture. 

I would love this.  FOIA some emails.  I don’t know the conflict disclosure requirements, but I bet Woody is a client of Quinn’s wealth management firm and I also bet they do real estate deals together.  
 

Quinn’s cronyism and neglect of IUBB has been disgusting and disgraceful.

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1 minute ago, pumpfake said:

One factor to think about is a prospective coach's experience with NIL players.  We talk about how much $$ we have for NIL, but the most talented ones want money, PT, and an opportunity to showcase themselves.  I'd argue that those players are quite different than the players Stevens had at Butler.  There has to be some question of either how well he can succeed with ego-driven mercenaries or can he build more in the traditional way at IU.  IDK, but I'm inclined to believe he'd be more successful going more the traditional route.

Brad Stevens remains my #1 choice BTW.

I think you would see more of the Matt Painter approach with Stevens with recruiting. I don’t see him hitting the portal to fill an entire roster (may have to year 1) but hitting the portal to fill a missing piece or 2.

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3 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Some investigative reporter in Indiana would probably generate some notoriety for themselves by digging into the Quinn Buckner era and writing an exposé. I’m sure there is plenty to cover and probably enough publicly available info to paint a very unpretty picture. 

No.  Just don't.

I do not like personally attacking anyone.  This includes Woodson and Buckner and Knight.  Maybe point out bad decisions, but why toss old players under the bus?  Even if they are doing crappy jobs in our opinions, say that.  Otherwise, it really is petty and seeking some sort of retribution.  

Oh well.  MHO.

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2 minutes ago, pumpfake said:

One factor to think about is a prospective coach's experience with NIL players.  We talk about how much $$ we have for NIL, but the most talented ones want money, PT, and an opportunity to showcase themselves.  I'd argue that those players are quite different than the players Stevens had at Butler.  There has to be some question of either how well he can succeed with ego-driven mercenaries or can he build more in the traditional way at IU.  IDK, but I'm inclined to believe he'd be more successful going more the traditional route.

Brad Stevens remains my #1 choice BTW.

You could argue those are quite different than the Butler kids, and I'd agree, not so much different than the NBA players he's working with now, though. 

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14 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

I heard for years few would never come here. What changed?

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My opinion?  NIL, for one.  And #2, the contract Curt Cignetti got shows that we now have a president and AD extremely serious about athletics.  Coaches like Few and probably others might believe they can come here and put themselves on the Mount Rushmore of college basketball coaches.

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43 minutes ago, 94Hoosier said:

Osterman Was just on 107.5.  
 

Most of what he said was worthless, but at the very end, I think he seemed to make it very clear that Woody is not wanting to go quietly   

Well it will be far from quiet tomorrow.

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