They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Artie86 2,514]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

Why would a White Whale like Pearl or Oats or Drew leave what they've built at their current schools? Alabama, Auburn, and Baylor are all better programs than IU right now. Especially guys like Pearl and Drew who were giving time to build their respective programs without the fanbase breathing down their neck? It's not going to happen. There's nothing those guys couldn't achieve at their current schools that they could at IU

The only White Whale IU might be able to get is someone like Brad Stevens who isn't currently coaching and has also turned us down multiple times. And I'm not even sure he's a White Whale anymore. 

...these guys are considered good coaches with records to back them up, but they don't fit in the White Whale conversation, not even close. There are only just a few to take on that label.

[TheWatShot 14,588]

16 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

https://x.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1886504404167352353?s=46
 

when can we announce this :)

We're always a step slow with everything we do and we have to watch someone else do it first. Hopefully this gets something going here. 

[Kentuckysucks 2,813]

18 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

https://x.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1886504404167352353?s=46
 

when can we announce this :)

That’s FSU basketball.  They have expectations for their program unlike our administration.

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,359]

I'm not saying I'm on board with some of the names being put forward on here, but we will never for sure whether they will succeed or fail. Of course, we can make educated guesses based on their track records. Having said that, totally dismiss them because they aren't the "white whale", makes no sense to me.

When Crean was fired, I brought up Underwood. He has done better at Illinois than our last 2 coaches have.

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[JSHoosier 21,120]

13 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Why would a White Whale like Pearl or Oats or Drew leave what they've built at their current schools? Alabama, Auburn, and Baylor are all better programs than IU right now. Especially guys like Pearl and Drew who were giving time to build their respective programs without the fanbase breathing down their neck? It's not going to happen. There's nothing those guys couldn't achieve at their current schools that they could at IU

The only White Whale IU might be able to get is someone like Brad Stevens who isn't currently coaching and has also turned us down multiple times. And I'm not even sure he's a White Whale anymore. 

I'm not sure Stevens is the grand slam he used to be, but "Indiana basketball hires Brad Stevens" is still a headline would send shockwaves through college hoops and an "oh crap" from several fanbases.

[AH1971 1,976]

11 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

...these guys are considered good coaches with records to back them up, but they don't fit in the White Whale conversation, not even close. There are only just a few to take on that label.

What White Whale(s) are you talking about then?

[Hornsby 2,899]

The last time we won, BK was the coach

1998 but Woodson is going to cook!!!

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[AKHoosier 7,214]

Subtle jab.

https://x.com/CoachDaneFife/status/1886396038904164488?t=ygjFgxPlAgqTsFjue7zjBA&s=19

[iu eyedoc 2,717]

22 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Why would a White Whale like Pearl or Oats or Drew leave what they've built at their current schools? Alabama, Auburn, and Baylor are all better programs than IU right now. Especially guys like Pearl and Drew who were giving time to build their respective programs without the fanbase breathing down their neck? It's not going to happen. There's nothing those guys couldn't achieve at their current schools that they could at IU

The only White Whale IU might be able to get is someone like Brad Stevens who isn't currently coaching and has also turned us down multiple times. And I'm not even sure he's a White Whale anymore. 

Pearl by all accounts was champing at the bit to get the job last offseason and a guy like Drew has  in state ties and knows the difference between becoming a coach locals like until they don't and becoming a legend. The state of Texas doesn't revere coaches of their third most popular sport as legend.

Oh and where did I say IU could just pick any coach in the country and automatically get them? Those three are just about as likely to turn down UNC should they come calling. Thanks for making an absurd argument.

The only point I was making is that IU has almost everything to offer a prospective coach and that recent lack of success as a deterrent was a ridiculous point.

I guess you weren't able to follow that. I will try to consider your reading comprehension level next time

[Hornsby 2,899]

We're always a step slow with everything we do and we have to watch someone else do it first. Hopefully this gets something going here. 

FSU doesn't have a guy who graduated in 1976 and an 85 years old holding its program hostage

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[IndianaSconnie90 482]

4 hours ago, johnsoniu said:

In keeping with his strict criteria, Rico would like to enter Arkansas St HC Bryan Hodgson's name into the discussion....

 

Uhhhhhh, is she his sobriety sponsor err what's going on here

[iu eyedoc 2,717]

9 minutes ago, AKHoosier said:

Subtle jab.

https://x.com/CoachDaneFife/status/1886396038904164488?t=ygjFgxPlAgqTsFjue7zjBA&s=19

Was Myles Rice Jimmy Chitwood in this scenario?

 

[AH1971 1,976]

Just now, iu eyedoc said:

Pearl by all accounts was champing at the bit to get the job last offseason and a guy like Drew has  in state ties and knows the difference between becoming a coach locals like until they don't and becoming a legend. The state of Texas doesn't revere coaches of their third most popular sport as legend.

Oh did I say IU could just pick any coach in the country and automatically get them? Those three are just about as likely to turn down UNC should they come calling. Your argument is ludicrous. 

The only point I was making is that IU has almost everything to offer a prospective coach and that recent lack of success as a deterrent was a ridiculous point.

I guess you weren't able to follow that. I will try to consider your reading comprehension level next time

You used the term white whale, not me. Those three along with Self and Hurley are widely regarded as the best coaches in the game. Two of the ones I mentioned turned Kentucky last year as did Hurley. 

And I understood exactly what you meant, you're just wrong in your assessment. IU's lack of success isn't a deterrent. The EXPECTATIONS for a team with IU's lack of success is most definitely a deterrent, at least for these "white whale's" you speak of.  

[IUHAHN81 2,632]

Brad may not be a "White Whale" to everyone but he's MY "White Whale!" Insert heart and hug emoji! 

[Gnet550 943]

https://x.com/jeffrabjohns/status/1886507307380461793?s=46&t=_2f4Kx2-vXs4ikCjA4bHkA

 

not sure he is speaking about IU directly…but I’d take it as a subtle hint.

[choosierred1 88]

Make March Fun Again!

FIRE MIKE WOODSON!

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[OKHOOSIER 4,079]

5 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

You used the term white whale, not me. Those three along with Self and Hurley are widely regarded as the best coaches in the game. Two of the ones I mentioned turned Kentucky last year as did Hurley. 

And I understood exactly what you meant, you're just wrong in your assessment. IU's lack of success isn't a deterrent. The EXPECTATIONS for a team with IU's lack of success is most definitely a deterrent, at least for these "white whale's" you speak of.  

Successful hypercompetitive coaches not considering IU because they are afraid of the "Expectations" is certainly a take. 

Your logic has gotten to the point of "IU fans should be happy anyone wants to coach this dumpster fire of a program/fanbase for any amount of money." 

[Chris007 50,447]

8 minutes ago, Gnet550 said:

https://x.com/jeffrabjohns/status/1886507307380461793?s=46&t=_2f4Kx2-vXs4ikCjA4bHkA

 

not sure he is speaking about IU directly…but I’d take it as a subtle hint.

I think he was talking about the FSU job and trying to get clicks. But I'm sure he has some info. 

[Stuhoo 84,111]

2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

That's what my son said to me the other day. He said can you imagine my freshman year at IU we get Cignetti and my sophomore year we get Stevens. I said that would be awesome but let's slow it down for now. 

My son goes to the University of Florida. Last Friday night he was glued to his laptop watching IU play hard but lose at Mackey. *Then he went out - he's not a total loser ya know*

If IU got Stevens,  got a different 'wow' coach, or for that matter got a great mid-major coach that turned the program around, he'd be jumping out of his skin with excitement.

 

[iu eyedoc 2,717]

6 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

You used the term white whale, not me. Those three along with Self and Hurley are widely regarded as the best coaches in the game. Two of the ones I mentioned turned Kentucky last year as did Hurley. 

And I understood exactly what you meant, you're just wrong in your assessment. IU's lack of success isn't a deterrent. The EXPECTATIONS for a team with IU's lack of success is most definitely a deterrent, at least for these "white whale's" you speak of.  

I speak of? You mean every name that YOU mention?

 

And two  things

1) I didn't use the term White Whale first just in response.

2)If you don't understand, IU's only White Whale is Brad Stevens. The term refers to an objective/person that is obsessively pursued but unlikely to catch.

 

Hope this helps.