Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[cbp4iu 1,692]

1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Tony Adragna -

Indiana's lineup at the end of the game on Sunday - which consisted of Rice, Galloway, Mgbako, Goode, and Reneau - had played just 4 offensive possessions together in Big Ten play before that final play.

I’ve watched that play enough to say we could have had 6 more seconds on the clock and probably taken an equally as bad shot or turned it over. No one screened, no one moved, 3 guys on top of each other with no rebounder. 

[Hornsby 2,487]

Good point.
A big reason there wasn’t a “mass exodus” last season is IU upped the NIL big time for existing players to levels they could not get close to anywhere else.  I bet our portal players were offered $200-300K+ more than anyone else would pay them.
As you said, who knows what Woody would have to pay to get players here next year.  And anyone who would take the money would be a huge red flag.
 

We got guys on the bench making more than Dawson Garcia. This had nothing to do with woodsons recruiting. That was a lie. It was all about way overpaying to get guys. I mean 500 k for Galloway. Good lord.

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7 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

I get it but at the same time they didn't have to take the money and they could've watched tape and seen how bad Woodson is.

True. The portal moves quickly and they have a short amount of time to look into things before they commit. Even a little investigation should have given them some pause and maybe it did, maybe that is why we had to overpay to get everyone of our players, because they knew it was tough sledding. They just didn’t know how bad it really was 

[theriverpilot 5,691]

1 hour ago, TadQueasy said:

I listened to the Dakich rant.  Interesting stuff.  I had not considered his thought that the coaches listening to Goode to go back and shake hands was a sign of how bad things are and that the players are running things.   

The thought that Woody and Buckner did not like Knight was kind of odd to me as well.  Has this ever been stated or implied before?  I have a hard time thinking that after all the years and all the praise that guys from that era have given Knight.  

But there is no doubt that Woody did not learn anything about leading a team from Knight.   

 Dakich really gunned hard on Goode for making MW go shake hands.  Implying that MW didn't have to shake hands nor would he (Dakich) in that situation.  I know Dakich has it in for Goode because of their Twitter (or X, or whatever Musk calls it these days) spat but what a crappy take.  

[Hornsby 2,487]

True. The portal moves quickly and they have a short amount of time to look into things before they commit. Even a little investigation should have given them some pause and maybe it did, maybe that is why we had to overpay to get everyone of our players, because they knew it was tough sledding. They just didn’t know how bad it really was 

I bet Simon Scott would have to give Woodson 10 million next year to get this type of talent again.

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[IUFAN1976 3,787]

1 hour ago, RoadRage said:

Leary: "I'm friends with a coach of another B1G team, he says these other schools would do almost anything to keep Mike Woodson at Indiana!"

When I heard that, my jaw dropped but I believe it.  We already seen signs at NW and it’s going to be bad at Turdue!  The other part that blew my mind was Ballo cussing out the coach and just leaving practice whenever he wants.  Leary asked if Woodson and staff did their homework screening these players?  I laughed because we all know the answer to that question is

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5 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

We got guys on the bench making more than Dawson Garcia. This had nothing to do with woodsons recruiting. That was a lie. It was all about way overpaying to get guys. I mean 500 k for Galloway. Good lord.

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And Leal is supposedly $400K, which is insane for 2.5 ppg.  Breaks my brain every time I think about it.  At least it’s our dumb donors paying for it.

[WeeDerkaNaut 378]

2 minutes ago, theriverpilot said:

 Dakich really gunned hard on Goode for making MW go shake hands.  Implying that MW didn't have to shake hands nor would he (Dakich) in that situation.  I know Dakich has it in for Goode because of their Twitter (or X, or whatever Musk calls it these days) spat but what a crappy take.  

I vote we never discuss DD again. More I hear the more I like Goode, and the more I dislike DD. Supporting the attempt to not shake hands just to spite Goode is absolutely classless. He would disrespect the entire building just to uphold a grudge with a player. That's pathetic.

[HoosierX 1,653]

1 hour ago, RoadRage said:

Leary: "I'm friends with a coach of another B1G team, he says these other schools would do almost anything to keep Mike Woodson at Indiana!"

I mean as obvious as it is to us fans how in over his head MW is, can you imagine how much more obvious it is to coaches with a more in-depth knowledge of the game? They must be in utter disbelief watching game tape.

[IUFAN1976 3,787]

2 minutes ago, WeeDerkaNaut said:

I vote we never discuss DD again. More I hear the more I like Goode, and the more I dislike DD. Supporting the attempt to not shake hands just to spite Goode is absolutely classless. He would disrespect the entire building just to uphold a grudge with a player. That's pathetic.

I don’t think it was about Goode, despite whatever friction they have. The way I understood it, it was more about the inmates running the asylum, no player should ever tell the coach to go shake hands.  He was saying that was Woodson’s fault for allowing him to redirect like a grandpa with dementia.  That’s what I took from it.  

[HoosierX 1,653]

1 minute ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I don’t think it was about Goode, despite whatever friction they have. The way I understood it, it was more about the inmates running the asylum, no player should ever tell the coach to go shake hands.  He was saying that was Woodson’s fault for allowing him to redirect like a grandpa with dementia.  That’s what I took from it.  

I think you need to relisten to the first three minutes, to me it was very much about Goode. He should get platitudes for doing that and instead Dakich is sniping him.

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15 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

When I heard that, my jaw dropped but I believe it.  We already seen signs at NW and it’s going to be bad at Turdue!  The other part that blew my mind was Ballo cussing out the coach and just leaving practice whenever he wants.  Leary asked if Woodson and staff did their homework screening these players?  I laughed because we all know the answer to that question is

Can you imagine the asswhopping Painter wants to put on IU after the 66-0 football beatdown. Cig embarrassed their program, payback is going to be a beotch.

[IUFAN1976 3,787]

22 minutes ago, cbp4iu said:

I’ve watched that play enough to say we could have had 6 more seconds on the clock and probably taken an equally as bad shot or turned it over. No one screened, no one moved, 3 guys on top of each other with no rebounder. 

That’s actually what Leary said, nobody set a screen, they were all for themselves.

Now I know people on here like Reneau but he’s a selfish player, he’s a black hole.  He shot 14 times and only passed it out about 4-5 times.  He’s got one agenda, his!

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3 hours ago, reconmkd said:

Tony Adragna was on X last night with an open Q&A, says MW will get the rest of the season due to being a program legend and basically there is no one on the bench that could take over, but believes he deserves to be canned now. 

I believe this will be how it plays out.  Dolson should focus solely on candidates to replace CMW.

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2 hours ago, TadQueasy said:

I listened to the Dakich rant.  Interesting stuff.  I had not considered his thought that the coaches listening to Goode to go back and shake hands was a sign of how bad things are and that the players are running things.   

The thought that Woody and Buckner did not like Knight was kind of odd to me as well.  Has this ever been stated or implied before?  I have a hard time thinking that after all the years and all the praise that guys from that era have given Knight.  

But there is no doubt that Woody did not learn anything about leading a team from Knight.   

Dakich is weird when it comes to Knight. What day is it? That'll affect his take. 

For years, he was a Knight defender. Then, he did a 180 and spent years bashing Knight.

And after RMK died, he did another 180 -- bashed anybody who tried to comment on Knight's legacy, because how could they possibly have an opinion when they didn't play for the man? It was almost as if people were offering sympathies to anybody associated with RMK after his death, but perhaps didn't to Dakich because he had turned on him -- and so DD wanted in on the attention. 

 

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3 hours ago, coonhounds said:

My daughter is a relatively new fan. Like maybe last 3 years. Anyhow just giving the perspective that she cares and is sad when we lose. I try to tell her we suck and are probably not going to win but she still gets her hopes up. Anyhow point is the younger kids have passion and want us to win. I am not sure how long you can keep them though if you don't improve the program imo

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Break out the petitions and start up the telethon, he must be fired now.  Noone deserves for their entire fan experience to be Woody ball.  That's cruel and unusual punishment.

[WeeDerkaNaut 378]

8 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

I don’t think it was about Goode, despite whatever friction they have. The way I understood it, it was more about the inmates running the asylum, no player should ever tell the coach to go shake hands.  He was saying that was Woodson’s fault for allowing him to redirect like a grandpa with dementia.  That’s what I took from it.  

"Tell Goode to go F himself?" "What has he done in the 10 minutes he's been here other than foul 4 times?" Listened to the first few minutes and that's all I needed to hear. If I'm Goode in that situation I'm doing the exact same thing. I do not care that you're the coach and I'm a player, you're not going to make me and the team look even worse by pulling that stunt. I am redirecting you like Goode did and you can chew my a$$ for it later. Swallow your pride, eat the loss, go shake hands. For DD to be so damning of Goode for trying to keep Woodson and Ya from not only embarrassing themselves but the entire program further tells me that my initial assessment is correct in that he cares more about spiting a player than he does about showing respect, class, and grace in a loss. 

[AZ Hoosier 8,023]

2 hours ago, Home Jersey said:

Not a huge fan of Kent Sterling... but he made the point that if your players are confused, there is confusion, regardless of what you told them or think you told them.

I read somewhere (Old Fart's post) that the 5 players on the floor during that last sequence had only played together for a total of FOUR offensive possessions all season.

[DChoosier 8,884]

1 hour ago, Hovadipo said:

Wasn’t the whole thing early on in Woody’s tenure that he and Knight had a full-on father son relationship? I remember an article stating that Woody was Knight’s favorite player he ever coached. Not buying that for a second. 

I agree. I don’t buy it either.

I believe Dan that there is a ton of bad sh!te going on in the program but Buckner and Woody have been praising RMK for 50 years. How and why do you keep that up for 50 years if you can’t stand the guy.

I can understand how someone could “rally”, and pretend they like a guy, for an event every 10-15 years, but Buckner and Woody have continuously praised Knight and gone on and on about life lessons, opportunity, like a father, influenced my life etc etc.

Who knows, maybe they have made a few negative comments about Knight (which not be shocking as nearly everyone might say something negative, from time to time, about someone they have known for 50 years) and for “some reason” Dan has taken that to a different level. 

Anyway, back to the important topic. The program needs to be blown up (although I am not in favor of Dolson being fired) and the new head coach needs to be given the power to orchestrate the change. 

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9 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

That’s actually what Leary said, nobody set a screen, they were all for themselves.

Now I know people on here like Reneau but he’s a selfish player, he’s a black hole.  He shot 14 times and only passed it out about 4-5 times.  He’s got one agenda, his!

I will say I'm not as much of a Reneau fan as I was. I can't blame his regression all on him considering the coaching staff but passing the ball is a fundamental part of the game and he simply does not do it. That's not winning basketball.