Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[AH1971 1,446]

Just now, SamIam said:

Do we think Pearl would be able to recruit the state? I know he has won everywhere he's been but preferably the next coach is also able to reverse the current trends with ND, PU, Butler and ISU all having serious momentum in-state.

Sounds like he was in a better position to land Flory than Woodson. Bruce Pearl is a name that every kid in the country knows. I think Bruce Pearl understands the history of Indiana High School basketball and the amount of talent it has produced over the years. I also believe that Bruce Pearl has total belief in the system he runs and the kinds of players that fit and is going to recruit the best fits regardless of geography. 

[Home Jersey 6,702]

5 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

The only thing I would say, is let's not forget that the majority of these kids are there to get an education.  Most will not go pro, or have very limited careers.  They will need the education to fall back on.  By robbing a kid of that education with fake classes and such does make you a bad man. imo.  

Yes for the record, I would never want that sort of trouble associated with the IU program. 

Even with that said, I don't think it's enough to brand Roy Williams a bad person.

Misguided actions/mistakes, etc. happen, everyone makes them, especially with competitors. There's a spectrum of what you can or can't tolerate. For me, it's pretty simple... the minimum requirement being a HC that has no violent past/active substance abuse issues himself, etc.

Then, first priority is ability to coach winning basketball. Second is about holding guys accountable and building a successful culture that can be sustained after him. Third and finally, graduating non-pro players while putting your best players into the NBA 

[Hornsby 1,652]

Yes, he is loved by HS and AAU coaches in this state. Also, I would expect for him to have an assistant who knows the state well. Probably someone from southern Indiana who is now on the ND staff

Pearl should be a no-brainer hire but some are bitter over something from 35 years ago. Man they need to get over it.

 

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41 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

I'm sure we can convince the MODs of BTOWN BANNERS to match right MODs?  It's pocket change pull it out of the slush fund. 

I'm doing my part.

[Stuhoo 79,798]

4 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Yes, he is loved by HS and AAU coaches in this state. Also, I would expect for him to have an assistant who knows the state well. Probably someone from southern Indiana who is now on the ND staff

[JF87 1,413]

My fear is that the big donors that support Woodson will say that it's cheaper to give more to NIL and buy Woodson a better team than to buy out his contract.  Then we have to watch another talented but underperforming team again next year.  

[Chris007 43,567]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

You know me too well

[Kentuckysucks 2,206]

26 minutes ago, Trish said:

Bruce isn't #1 on my list, but he's better than Woodson. He would kill it at Indiana I think. My list is the following.

 

1 - Brad ******* Stevens

2 - Dan Hurley

3- Dusty 

4 - Shaka Smart

5 - Pearl

Dan Hurley?  Lol.  Lists like this is why a lot of the college basketball world thinks we're crazy.  The guy just a natty at a top 5 program and might win another this season.  Stevens isn't happening but at one time there at least a possibility given his ties to the state and that he was raised an IU fan.

[LamarCheeks 18,192]

40 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

Pearl should be a no-brainer hire but some are bitter over something from 35 years ago. Man they need to get over it.

 

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Not bitter. Not at all. Just don't like that he reported a school to the NCAA for breaking rules, then committed his own violations. I find it sorta sleazy. 

You are cool with a potential Pearl hire. That's fine.

Some aren't. It's OK to have different opinions. 

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18 minutes ago, SamIam said:

Do we think Pearl would be able to recruit the state? I know he has won everywhere he's been but preferably the next coach is also able to reverse the current trends with ND, PU, Butler and ISU all having serious momentum in-state.

He will be great in Indiana.  He might not be so well received in the Chicago Public League.

[HoosierFan1994 4,722]

40 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I have no idea let's say 50/50. But this is all work that Dolson should be doing before the end of the season. So he can sit down with Woodson, staff, players, BoT, Whitten and discuss all options. 

Rabjohns said last night that they better not waste anytime. When the season ends, I sure hope a decision is made somewhat soon. I know if Kentucky gets out of the tournament early, there will be calls to fire Cal. They'd absolutely go for a Bruce Pearl. 

[rcbowla 7,035]

I know we're all just posting opinions and thoughts and the potential coach discussion can get our interest going more now than what the rest of the season looks like, but I just don't get the continued Peal discussion. Fun coach to watch. No way in Hell IU hires him, just dead in the water. 

Probably due to the Trilly and Rabjohns stuff. Otherwise I figured it would never happen either.

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17 minutes ago, JF87 said:

My fear is that the big donors that support Woodson will say that it's cheaper to give more to NIL and buy Woodson a better team than to buy out his contract.  Then we have to watch another talented but underperforming team again next year.  

Maybe, maybe not. But the $12.5M question is can Woodson coach said "better" team to play better, execute and hit shots? Can Woodson adapt his style to something remotely similar to modern basketball?

I'm saying that he cannot. And if he cannot do it, why in the name of everything holy would Indiana keep him? And why would the donors insist on backing a losing proposition?

[mjeze106 191]

21 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

You know me too well

Did he play for Pearl at Southern Indiana?

[IUFAN1976 2,796]

Wow, 300 pages!

[cbp4iu 1,401]

2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

We all might disagree but if what I'm hearing is the backup plan this time IMO it's a clear upgrade than Woody but that can be argued.

So we can scratch Armond Hill off the list?

[Kentuckysucks 2,206]

6 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

Wow, 300 pages!

 

[Chris007 43,567]

7 minutes ago, mjeze106 said:

Did he play for Pearl at Southern Indiana?

He played there but I think Pearl was already gone but they are close. 

[Kentuckysucks 2,206]

10 minutes ago, cbp4iu said:

So we can scratch Armond Hill off the list?

I'm guessing Collins but completely a guess.  It's what I would do if the big dogs all said no.

[IUFAN1976 2,796]

10 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Maybe, maybe not. But the $12.5M question is can Woodson coach said "better" team to play better, execute and hit shots? Can Woodson adapt his style to something remotely similar to modern basketball?

I'm saying that he cannot. And if he cannot do it, why in the name of everything holy would Indiana keep him? And why would the donors insist on backing a losing proposition?

Because of:

A) $12.5 million reasons

B) Quinn Buckner & co.

C) Most people that donate, may support Woodson or the support of NIL support to buy a team.

I want Woodson gone like most on here, but I keep saying this, Woodson will be back next year.