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10 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

I know the staff has a history with Mendoza so I wouldn't be surprised if they land him, but I'd like to land Cherry.

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I'm playing the Devil's advocate here....It's hard for me to wrap my head around seeing IU go from a bottom dweller to a team with a winning record. It's been this way for so long, with so many different coaches. What is so different and special about Coach Cignetti? I'm sure there are current IU players and IU portal players that feel that way too. 

I am all in on what Coach Cignetti is bringing. He's not going to change the way he does things, just because it's the mighty BIGTEN. If anything, IMO, he wants to "shock the world"  on how we're going to see IU next year and in the future. I'm sure he's heard how bad IU has been for decades and how many coaches have vowed to turn the program around and failed.

Coach Cig is not the soft, fuzzy and sensitive coach we are used seeing and that may turn some fans and players off. However, his commitment to a consistent plan, method and style of coaching as well as playing has been obvious. It will take time, energy and effort to build what he wants and is accustomed to. I can't wait to see he has in store for IU.

GO IU!

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32 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

I'm playing the Devil's advocate here....It's hard for me to wrap my head around seeing IU go from a bottom dweller to a team with a winning record. It's been this way for so long, with so many different coaches. What is so different and special about Coach Cignetti? I'm sure there are current IU players and IU portal players that feel that way too. 

I am all in on what Coach Cignetti is bringing. He's not going to change the way he does things, just because it's the mighty BIGTEN. If anything, IMO, he wants to "shock the world"  on how we're going to see IU next year and in the future. I'm sure he's heard how bad IU has been for decades and how many coaches have vowed to turn the program around and failed.

Coach Cig is not the soft, fuzzy and sensitive coach we are used seeing and that may turn some fans and players off. However, his commitment to a consistent plan, method and style of coaching as well as playing has been obvious. It will take time, energy and effort to build what he wants and is accustomed to. I can't wait to see he has in store for IU.

GO IU!

I'd love to be wrong, but there will be such a talent gap for awhile that I suspect we will get destroyed by decent teams throughout the first season or two. 

However, I have real hope that we can play with and prevail against the Purdoos and Western Kentucky's of the world far better than we have.

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1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

I'd love to be wrong, but there will be such a talent gap for awhile that I suspect we will get destroyed by decent teams throughout the first season or two. 

However, I have real hope that we can play with and prevail against the Purdoos and Western Kentucky's of the world far better than we have.

When you think about how well we competed against Louisville and Penn State, I believe a competent coach with a solid plan can get us over the top in at least one of these games we keep losing and hopefully win consistently these games we should be winning by two touchdowns!

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Not sure what to think about the exodus of current players to the portal just yet. I know everyone wants that $$$$, but some of the exits seem to have possibly just experienced a culture shock from the new staff. From the outside looking in, the new plan seems to be about as close to a 180 from LEO as you could get.

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2 hours ago, Artie86 said:

I'm playing the Devil's advocate here....It's hard for me to wrap my head around seeing IU go from a bottom dweller to a team with a winning record. It's been this way for so long, with so many different coaches. What is so different and special about Coach Cignetti? I'm sure there are current IU players and IU portal players that feel that way too. 

I am all in on what Coach Cignetti is bringing. He's not going to change the way he does things, just because it's the mighty BIGTEN. If anything, IMO, he wants to "shock the world"  on how we're going to see IU next year and in the future. I'm sure he's heard how bad IU has been for decades and how many coaches have vowed to turn the program around and failed.

Coach Cig is not the soft, fuzzy and sensitive coach we are used seeing and that may turn some fans and players off. However, his commitment to a consistent plan, method and style of coaching as well as playing has been obvious. It will take time, energy and effort to build what he wants and is accustomed to. I can't wait to see he has in store for IU.

GO IU!

IUFB hasn't had a coach like this, ever. I could be wrong but I believe IUFB will go bowling next year and we fans will enjoy the vast improvement of the product on the football field. We'll see a team that is disciplined, executes and has a completely different mindset then we are used to seeing. Again I could be way off but I'm really happy with who's running the program. I never thought in my lifetime we'd ever land a coach like him. 

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1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

I'd love to be wrong, but there will be such a talent gap for awhile that I suspect we will get destroyed by decent teams throughout the first season or two. 

However, I have real hope that we can play with and prevail against the Purdoos and Western Kentucky's of the world far better than we have.

I don't think the talent gap is all that bad. They just didn't have the proper coaching, but that's just me. I say this because of all the one score losses (4 total) on this year's schedule. 

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2 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

I'd love to be wrong, but there will be such a talent gap for awhile that I suspect we will get destroyed by decent teams throughout the first season or two. 

However, I have real hope that we can play with and prevail against the Purdoos and Western Kentucky's of the world far better than we have.

Next year IU can  get destroyed by decent teams and still play in a bowl. Very favorable schedule. 

3 non-con wins and then they only need to win 33% of their conference games, which I think there has a good chance of happening. There were quite a few 1 score losses this year so turning those around gets it done.

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34 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

Broken link. Looks like they changed justin to jack.

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/qa-on-curt-cignetti-assistants-with-jack-fitzpatrick-of-jmu-sports-news/

I really like this part:

But, man does he assemble a great staff and he has an eye for talent like no one I have ever seen.

That guy was kind of critical of a couple of the assistant coaches coming to IU, though. Miller (RB coach) and Cain (special teams/TE), in particular. With Cain, he was critical of him as a special teams coach and complementary on him as a TE coach.

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27 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

IUFB hasn't had a coach like this, ever. I could be wrong but I believe IUFB will go bowling next year and we fans will enjoy the vast improvement of the product on the football field. We'll see a team that is disciplined, executes and has a completely different mindset then we are used to seeing. Again I could be way off but I'm really happy with who's running the program. I never thought in my lifetime we'd ever land a coach like him. 

What I think gives him an advantage is that he was already a HC with a winning team around him. That lets him bring in a coaching staff that are mostly already familiar with each other and on the same page with a culture of winning. That's huge.

Most of the hires IU has made are assistants from other schools or promoting from within. The outsiders had to cobble together a staff and the insiders mostly continued the with the losing staff already on hand.

Hoeppner may have been an exception since he was a current HC when hired but I honestly didn't pay too much attention at the time to remember how he built his staff. I do remember that he wasn't at IU long before the diagnosis so he never really got much of a chance but in his short time, he showed promise of turning things around.

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2 hours ago, Artie86 said:

I'm playing the Devil's advocate here....It's hard for me to wrap my head around seeing IU go from a bottom dweller to a team with a winning record. It's been this way for so long, with so many different coaches. What is so different and special about Coach Cignetti? I'm sure there are current IU players and IU portal players that feel that way too. 

I am all in on what Coach Cignetti is bringing. He's not going to change the way he does things, just because it's the mighty BIGTEN. If anything, IMO, he wants to "shock the world"  on how we're going to see IU next year and in the future. I'm sure he's heard how bad IU has been for decades and how many coaches have vowed to turn the program around and failed.

Coach Cig is not the soft, fuzzy and sensitive coach we are used seeing and that may turn some fans and players off. However, his commitment to a consistent plan, method and style of coaching as well as playing has been obvious. It will take time, energy and effort to build what he wants and is accustomed to. I can't wait to see he has in store for IU.

GO IU!

Coach C has the characteristics of the great coaches.  First and foremost, he adapts his offense/defense schemes to the players he has.  Doesn't try to fit square pegs into round holes.  For a school like IU that is key, because your talent is going to vary based on who you can land.  You're not going to have your pick of the top players, yet.  

Second, he seems tough without being obnoxious.  I don't want my football team to LEO.  I want them to kick a$$ and take names.  You can be tough but fair -- leading to accountability, leading to discipline on the field.  No stupid penalties, etc.  

Finally he believe is multiplication -- a unit of 11 guys, executing to perfection, ends up being more than the sum of it's parts.  

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2 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

What I think gives him an advantage is that he was already a HC with a winning team around him. That lets him bring in a coaching staff that are mostly already familiar with each other and on the same page with a culture of winning. That's huge.

Most of the hires IU has made are assistants from other schools or promoting from within. The outsiders had to cobble together a staff and the insiders mostly continued the with the losing staff already on hand.

Hoeppner may have been an exception since he was a current HC when hired but I honestly didn't pay too much attention at the time to remember how he built his staff. I do remember that he wasn't at IU long before the diagnosis so he never really got much of a chance but in his short time, he showed promise of turning things around.

In my opinion, regarding modern area resume, Bill Mallory is the closest type of hire IUFB has done. Maybe DiNardo? Everyone else doesn't even come close, including Hep. The thing that sets Coach Cig apart from all the other hires is his longevity of success. I personally think that's a big deal and we'll see it right away. 

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