Coach Curt Cignetti to INDIANA... Forever and Ever, Amen!

[RaceToTheTop]

Just now, Lebowski said:

I don't buy the too old argument.  If Nick Saban today said he's interested in the IUFB job, y'all would be rolling the crimson carpet for a 71 year old coach.

I would be okay with Fritz, but don't think the Saban comparison is a valid one.  On name alone, Saban would bring in elite recruits....and an immediate excitement.  And the fact that Fritz could be interested and Saban would never be interested in the job says there is a difference.

[RaceToTheTop]

It would be so IU to hire Archie Miller as the next football coach.

[Stuhoo]

7 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said:

Why is he not realistic? Because his age or because he wouldn’t take the job? If you think the next hire is going to be here 15-20 years you haven’t followed IU football nearly as long as I thought you have or college football in general. There are very few lifers in this day and age.

Whoever IU hires need to put together the best 5-7 years as possible. 

Primarily because I think he wouldn’t take the job, but his age is a negative and a factor in why he wouldn’t take the job.

[IndyResident16]

2 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

This is just so unnecessary. 

Why? Age should not be a detriment in this case. Hire the guy who is best adept at building the program as quickly as possible. History tells us the next coach is only going to be here a handful of years. Give me 5-6 years of Fritz leaving the program in a better place than he found it (like he’s done at every single other program he’s coached) than burning it to the ground in 5-6 years like IU has repeatedly done for the last century.

What’s the saying about doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?

[Demo]

19 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

He'd be a diamond in the rough, and that "stain" on his departure might get him interested in IU.  If that wasn't there, he'd have multiple other opportunities.  

He’ll certainly get another shot eventually, but this soon after the fact I doubt that they’d want to spend their new coach goodwill currency explaining and apologizing for that mess to recruits and transfers and alumni. 

[IndyResident16]

4 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Primarily because I think he wouldn’t take the job, but his age is a negative and a factor in why he wouldn’t take the job.

He may not take the job. Dolson (assuming he’s allowed to make the next hire) would be foolish if he didn’t make him say no.

[Lebowski]

4 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I would be okay with Fritz, but don't think the Saban comparison is a valid one.  On name alone, Saban would bring in elite recruits....and an immediate excitement.  And the fact that Fritz could be interested and Saban would never be interested in the job says there is a difference.

I completely understand your point, but saying a coaches age is a factor for recruiting is probably very low on a recruits list.  From a personal experience, it wasn't even on my list.  

[Golfman25]

17 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Agree.  If I'm Northwestern, I would have fired him.  If I'm IU, I would definitely consider hiring him.  Not all fireable offenses are the same.  And if Fitzgerald hadn't had two bad seasons in a row, he might not have been fired.

Part of the story is NW and the town it’s located in are the very definition of woke.  Frankly, they would get rid of the masculine activity that is sports all together.  The NW “charges” are way overblown, which is why he wasn’t originally fired.  

[mamasa]

18 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said:

Is Gruden a realistic option?

Jon or Jay?

[Jeff Flabjohns]

4 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Part of the story is NW and the town it’s located in are the very definition of woke.  Frankly, they would get rid of the masculine activity that is sports all together.  The NW “charges” are way overblown, which is why he wasn’t originally fired.  

Yikes 

[Jeff Flabjohns]

Just now, mamasa said:

Jon or Jay?

Founding father John Jay. 

[Hovadipo]

16 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said:

Why? Age should not be a detriment in this case. Hire the guy who is best adept at building the program as quickly as possible. History tells us the next coach is only going to be here a handful of years. Give me 5-6 years of Fritz leaving the program in a better place than he found it (like he’s done at every single other program he’s coached) than burning it to the ground in 5-6 years like IU has repeatedly done for the last century.

What’s the saying about doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?

Lol yeah…That’s what I meant.

[IndyResident16]

7 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Part of the story is NW and the town it’s located in are the very definition of woke.  Frankly, they would get rid of the masculine activity that is sports all together.  The NW “charges” are way overblown, which is why he wasn’t originally fired.  

And Bloomington isn’t woke? It would take a serious big donor voice threatening to pull funds for IU to consider Fritz.

[IndyResident16]

2 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Lol yeah…That’s what I meant.

Oh? Enlighten me then.

[ronzo4IU]

7 minutes ago, mamasa said:

Jon or Jay?

Jon

[DChoosier]

12 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Part of the story is NW and the town it’s located in are the very definition of woke.  Frankly, they would get rid of the masculine activity that is sports all together.  The NW “charges” are way overblown, which is why he wasn’t originally fired.  

The same city that rezoned a major parcel of land, to accommodate a “masculine” $800,000,000 football stadium, wants to get rid of sports. yea, ok …LOL LOL

[GoIU8]

27 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

I don't buy the too old argument.  If Nick Saban today said he's interested in the IUFB job, y'all would be rolling the crimson carpet for a 71 year old coach.

Yeah because 64 year old whose never coached in the Power 5 and the greatest coach in college football history are totally the same thing. 

[ronzo4IU]

2 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said:

Jon

I had heard rumblings that he had ties and might be interested?

[IndyResident16]

2 minutes ago, GoIU8 said:

Yeah because 64 year old whose never coached in the Power 5 and the greatest coach in college football history are totally the same thing. 

That 64 year old has been successful every single time he’s coached “up” a level, especially for the first time.

[Hovadipo]

7 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said:

Oh? Enlighten me then.

Have some self awareness man. The whole “if you don’t agree with me, then you must not know ball” schtick is trash.