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[Chris007]

7 minutes ago, maharkn said:

Just read an article that there is interest from Gruden in the job.

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So the boosters who paid the buyout for Allen want Gruden. Dolson supposedly isn't interested in Gruden. But his wife and Gruden did go to school together. But don't think he will get the job. 

[Artie86]

Just now, Chris007 said:

So the boosters who paid the buyout for Allen want Gruden. Dolson supposedly isn't interested in Gruden. But his wife and Gruden did go to school together. But don't think he will get the job. 

That would be a splash hire….

[Hovadipo]

I don’t know how Dolson does things, but it isn’t very common for interviews/negotiations to happen on campus. These things go down at a random place for the school and the candidate. 

[JSHoosier]

20 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

So the boosters who paid the buyout for Allen want Gruden. Dolson supposedly isn't interested in Gruden. But his wife and Gruden did go to school together. But don't think he will get the job. 

They provided the money to get rid of Allen, Dolson should probably listen and at least make the call. 

[hper50]

Looks like someone is having fun with Gruden’s Wiki page!

 

[Gahoosierfan]

On 11/25/2023 at 8:15 PM, IndyResident16 said:

I’m genuinely asking? A contract extension was warranted, no doubt. But while making him unpoachable, Dolson made him unfirable without serious ramifications by fully guaranteeing his buyout. I don’t know anybody outside of OSU, Bama, etc who have paid $30 million just to hire Allen away from IU on top of paying him another $30-40 million in salary. 14-7 is a phenomenal two year run for IU standards, but a $60 million investment for another program during a global pandemic? Nonsense. 
 

Dolson shouldn’t have a job.

I don't think a contract extension was warranted. When IU went 6-2 in the pandemic season, they beat UM, MSU, Wisconsin, and PSU along with 2 others. Those 4 schools were all having terrible seasons and ended with bad records. That hardly qualifies as a great season for IU. Dolson should not be there anymore. He displayed his incompetence. No major program wanted Allen obviously. 

[Chris007]

I think if the search ended today Candle would be the pick. Fitz is well-liked by the AD but don't think he passes the test for the President. This is moving fast and still think we have a coach by Friday. 

[IndyResident16]

1 minute ago, Gahoosierfan said:

I don't think a contract extension was warranted. When IU went 6-2 in the pandemic season, they beat UM, MSU, Wisconsin, and PSU along with 2 others. Those 4 schools were all having terrible seasons and ended with bad records. That hardly qualifies as a great season for IU. Dolson should not be there anymore. He displayed his incompetence. No major program wanted Allen obviously. 

While I agree with the latter that Dolson is incompetent, I do believe Allen deserved some kind of reward for his on-field success. But yes, reward doesn’t equal fully guaranteed buyout.

[Chris007]

15 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

I don’t know how Dolson does things, but it isn’t very common for interviews/negotiations to happen on campus. These things go down at a random place for the school and the candidate. 

Usually in a conference room at an airport. 

[kreigh8]

4 minutes ago, Gahoosierfan said:

I don't think a contract extension was warranted. When IU went 6-2 in the pandemic season, they beat UM, MSU, Wisconsin, and PSU along with 2 others. Those 4 schools were all having terrible seasons and ended with bad records. That hardly qualifies as a great season for IU. Dolson should not be there anymore. He displayed his incompetence. No major program wanted Allen obviously. 

No Dolson fan, but the women's basketball team is top 15. The men's team since he made a hire has made the tournament both seasons - which is what the AD at IU will always be measured by; and his men's soccer program is in the elite 8 among other program successes. Dolson has his flaws and I certainly don't get warm and fuzzy with the idea that he's calling the shot on this football hire after that awful Allen extension, but his incompetence hasn't done all that bad

[Trish]

5 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think if the search ended today Candle would be the pick. Fitz is well-liked by the AD but don't think he passes the test for the President. This is moving fast and still think we have a coach by Friday. 

How about Urban Meyer? ;) 

[Stuhoo]

6 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think if the search ended today Candle would be the pick. Fitz is well-liked by the AD but don't think he passes the test for the President. This is moving fast and still think we have a coach by Friday. 

Then I hope the search ends today.

[NashvilleHoosier]

Ok, somebody help me out. Throw likelihood out the window. How is Gruden even remotely appealing?

[kreigh8]

1 minute ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

Ok, somebody help me out. Throw likelihood out the window. How is Gruden even remotely appealing?

Super Bowl XXXVII

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

19 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

This is moving fast and still think we have a coach by Friday. 

Hope so with the portal opening next Monday.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

5 minutes ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

Ok, somebody help me out. Throw likelihood out the window. How is Gruden even remotely appealing?

Forget him.  Rumormill fodder.

[Chris007]

4 minutes ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

Ok, somebody help me out. Throw likelihood out the window. How is Gruden even remotely appealing?

Big name who would help with recruiting. I think he can still coach. Just not what were looking for. 

[NashvilleHoosier]

2 minutes ago, kreigh8 said:

Super Bowl XXXVII

That happened in 2002. He's coached a little over 3 seasons total in the last 15 years. None in college. His last taste of college football appears to have come 34 years ago, so it's safe to say he's never recruited. There have been hundreds of much bigger time college football openings while he's been unemployed and nobody has hired him? He's 60 and would be trying to jumpstart his coaching career at arguably the worst power 5 program in college football history. Is that really a fit for Indiana football? None of this even touches on his incredibly problematic history.

[JSHoosier]

Candle has made 6 bowl games at Toledo, but 2-4 in those games.

[kreigh8]

1 minute ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

That happened in 2002. He's coached a little over 3 seasons total in the last 15 years. None in college. His last taste of college football appears to have come 34 years ago, so it's safe to say he's never recruited. There have been hundreds of much bigger time college football openings while he's been unemployed and nobody has hired him? He's 60 and would be trying to jumpstart his coaching career at arguably the worst power 5 program in college football history. Is that really a fit for Indiana football? None of this even touches on his incredibly problematic history.

Is that really a fit for Indiana football?

I think there's also some vague ties to IU for Gruden and his family, can't recall what. Not advocating for it - but in terms of a Coach Prime like buzz around the program - Jon Gruden would be close or near to it. We're talking about the first and only D1 program to lose 700 games in history, if a former Super Bowl champion coach has interest in this program, Dolson should at least call. More stable options, but with portal and NIL Gruden might be able to stabilize things quicker than others due to his name

It also could be a complete disaster..