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[Jeff Flabjohns]

Sigh. 

[Chris007]

3 minutes ago, Ngw7183 said:

Woody is pretty deep with CAA and we have a top agent there who is an IU grad. We have other players with them as you said as well.

I still don’t understand at all. Are you saying he has to go where agent says or still his decision but they want him there? I still don’t see the point of visiting. 

I don't fully understand this either but CAA thinks it will be better for them in the long run if he is at Louisville instead of IU. Meaning better for them with his shoe contract, his 2nd NBA contract, and marketing things like that. I'm guessing we got a visit because of our relationship with CAA

[HoosierHoopster]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Yes, and it sounds like both IU and Kansas still think they have a shot. I'll be honest I don't fully understand this whole recruitment. I got a text Saturday night that seemed like this visit couldn't have gone any better. The family and player loved Woody, we rolled out the red carpet and were told they were canceling the next visit. Then went home and talked it over with everyone, now taking the visit and their the favorite. 

Honestly just sounds like the kid and his family are going through the full process, taking the visits and then making their decision.

[Artie86]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

I'm not sure about that, but I do know that Payne has a better relationship with agents than Woodson does. 

sorry for the 20 questions, but what is helping Payne with these agent relationships more experience in NCAA coaching circles, younger age, etc.? Just curious.... I may have rose colored glasses on when looking at Woodson, I guess. I would think his vast NBA coaching and pro player relationships he has established is a great advantage for him. What do I know? lol

[Capt. Crimson]

I don't fully understand this either but CAA thinks it will be better for them in the long run if he is at Louisville instead of IU. Meaning better for them with his shoe contract, his 2nd NBA contract, and marketing things like that. I'm guessing we got a visit because of our relationship with CAA

People wanted to pay the players… now deals are being made where decisions are up to the agents and an algorithm rather than a personal choice. It’s not about winning. It’s all about money. Sad really.


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[Chris007]

1 minute ago, Artie86 said:

sorry for the 20 questions, but what is helping Payne with these agent relationships more experience in NCAA coaching circles, younger age, etc.? Just curious.... I may have rose colored glasses on when looking at Woodson, I guess. I would think his vast NBA coaching and pro player relationships he has established is a great advantage for him. What do I know? lol

Payne has a close relationship with WWWes and Roc nation. I think Roc Nation has some influence at CAA and the president of Roc Nation kid is on the staff at Louisville. It's things like this that I don't fully understand but are happening

[reconmkd]

In what reality is CAA currently in? Payne has no offense (might as well just roll the ball out on the court and say here you go boys). Did they watch last season? Being that I work in Louisville, I tortured myself to watch a couple of their games. I think I watched more of their games last season than a season ticket holder watched all season. He went to one game, after which he said he wasn't attending another. The pitchforks and torches were literally out (hell some were willing to bring Ol' Slick Rick back), but now everything seems to be the total opposite? So confused.

[RaceToTheTop]

9 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I don't fully understand this either but CAA thinks it will be better for them in the long run if he is at Louisville instead of IU. Meaning better for them with his shoe contract, his 2nd NBA contract, and marketing things like that. I'm guessing we got a visit because of our relationship with CAA

Just my opinion, but this sounds like CAA looking out for CAA and not their client. 

And trying to predict a 2nd NBA contract at this point is an exercise in futility.  

[Artie86]

10 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Yes, and it sounds like both IU and Kansas still think they have a shot. I'll be honest I don't fully understand this whole recruitment. I got a text Saturday night that seemed like this visit couldn't have gone any better. The family and player loved Woody, we rolled out the red carpet and were told they were canceling the next visit. Then went home and talked it over with everyone, now taking the visit and their the favorite. 

I definitely don't like how this is sounding. It sounds like the agent is trying to sway him to U of L. I would think After the Ledlum deal, Woodson and Co. will stay on top of this in every way possible......

[Artie86]

9 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Payne has a close relationship with WWWes and Roc nation. I think Roc Nation has some influence at CAA and the president of Roc Nation kid is on the staff at Louisville. It's things like this that I don't fully understand but are happening

Here's how I feel about that crap.....lol!

[Chris007]

2 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Just my opinion, but this sounds like CAA looking out for CAA and not their client. 

And trying to predict a 2nd NBA contract at this point is an exercise in futility.  

I will say it's sounding more like the individual agent than CAA as a whole pushing this. I don't know who the agent is. 

[Artie86]

4 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Just my opinion, but this sounds like CAA looking out for CAA and not their client. 

And trying to predict a 2nd NBA contract at this point is an exercise in futility.  

this kind of crap sux!

[RaceToTheTop]

2 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I will say it's sounding more like the individual agent than CAA as a whole pushing this. I don't know who the agent is. 

Then the individual agent shouldn’t be wasting people’s time. 
 

I will say there is something to be said for not swinging for the fences both in the transfer portal — focus on guys you can that you feel fit the program.  

[Alford Bailey]

Remember Payne was running things at UK. 

[Henryville Hoosier]

8 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I will say it's sounding more like the individual agent than CAA as a whole pushing this. I don't know who the agent is. 

They should’ve had him visit Louisville first and have him commit and be done with it. 

[Tom White]

1 hour ago, jbeaman9 said:

"insiders" from other sites have changed their opinions many times already. 

Dylan was right. The answer is blowing in the wind.

[Artie86]

7 minutes ago, Ngw7183 said:

All can be true and seems all likely even. Things like this have been happening for years. I still don’t understand…. Why make visits? When you are still in HS, with your parents etc. these are not “fun trips”.  They take time etc 

so if all this exist and why Louisville,  then it has been that way from the start and zero point in making the visit. 

unless… there is another way to read this and too many jumping to conclusions. I have said from the start they were the favorites. But something happened and they added visits. CAA probably said these 2 (Kansas and IU) are your options. So, goes and loves both. Says he still doesn’t want Louisville but CAA pushing. Please just take visit. if you still feel that way we understand.

I cannot imagine a world where an agent would force their clients hand. That doesn’t add up and doesn’t make sense on why any visits took place if they planned to force him there all along. 

CAA = this...... lol

[RaceToTheTop]

7 minutes ago, Ngw7183 said:

Nah… there is still plenty of time and talent. I say keep swinging. They will get 2 great guys by the end. 

The pool of great is dwindling rapidly.

[Scotty R]

Still say things like this will eventually bring an end to college sports. It is coming to a point where I care less and less about the game.  It has happened to me with the NBA where the last 15 years I rarely watch games besides the Pacers. I have probably watched a total of less than a half hour of this year's playoffs.

[Alford Bailey]

Wouldn’t surprise me if something shady is going on BUT MM always said they were taking 4 visits