TheWatShot Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 23 minutes ago, HoosierFan1994 said: Side note: Why do teams/athletic programs reward coaches for okay results? Colts gave Reich, along with Ballard, a contract extension after ONE freakin playoff win. They've been a .500 team since the contract extension. Just like Glass giving Crean one after ONE good year. I don't get it... With the Colts, I think it's just Irsay's continued attempts to make the organization feel like one big happy family. He tries so hard to not be like his dad, even if it ultimately proves detrimental to the team (Bob Irsay once fired a coach at halftime of a preseason game). In college athletics, there's just so much pressure on people to perform or be replaced. It's absolutely crazy, and I'm not sure it will change for the better any time soon. Everyone (including us) wants to win, and win now, and they're willing to throw money at anyone who appears to be an upgrade over what they currently have. The teams who have successful coaches are paying them, because if they don't, someone else will. It doesn't take much to impress disgruntled fans and their short attention spans these days, because if they aren't busy yearning for a time when they used to be good, they're usually wondering why they aren't keeping up with the Joneses. Then you have all the armchair QB's who send threatening emails to athletic directors saying they'll cancel their season tickets if nothing changes, players transferring, graduating and transferring again, recruits changing their minds while the ink dries on their LOI's...throw all this in a blender, and you have the world of college athletics. This stuff is infuriating, and athletic directors have little control over it, so I think in some small way, huge contracts allow them to feel like they have some control over their own program. Stuhoo, Dave from Dayton, LIHoosier and 1 other 4 Quote
maharkn Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 Finkel would be a grand slam but I highly doubt he envisions IU being a positive contributor to his career path. I see a really good chance that cincy is where Dasan heads after the season Sent from my Pixel 6a using Tapatalk Loaded Chicken Sandwich and MemphisHoosier 2 Quote
DChoosier Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, maharkn said: I see a really good chance that cincy is where Dasan heads after the season Sent from my Pixel 6a using Tapatalk Sadly, it wouldn’t surprise me either. Quote
Alford Bailey Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 Dolson is gonna have to decide how far he lets the program slide. Another year or two of Allen and there may be nothing left talent wise. Stuhoo, Hoosierfan2017 and 8bucks 3 Quote
Stuhoo Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said: Dolson is gonna have to decide how far he lets the program slide. Another year or two of Allen and there may be nothing left talent wise. Yeah recruiting is really gonna tank soon Quote
Hovadipo Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 11 hours ago, TheWatShot said: With the Colts, I think it's just Irsay's continued attempts to make the organization feel like one big happy family. He tries so hard to not be like his dad, even if it ultimately proves detrimental to the team (Bob Irsay once fired a coach at halftime of a preseason game). In college athletics, there's just so much pressure on people to perform or be replaced. It's absolutely crazy, and I'm not sure it will change for the better any time soon. Everyone (including us) wants to win, and win now, and they're willing to throw money at anyone who appears to be an upgrade over what they currently have. The teams who have successful coaches are paying them, because if they don't, someone else will. It doesn't take much to impress disgruntled fans and their short attention spans these days, because if they aren't busy yearning for a time when they used to be good, they're usually wondering why they aren't keeping up with the Joneses. Then you have all the armchair QB's who send threatening emails to athletic directors saying they'll cancel their season tickets if nothing changes, players transferring, graduating and transferring again, recruits changing their minds while the ink dries on their LOI's...throw all this in a blender, and you have the world of college athletics. This stuff is infuriating, and athletic directors have little control over it, so I think in some small way, huge contracts allow them to feel like they have some control over their own program. This is a phenomenal post. ADs really don’t have a choice but to give these obnoxious contracts. Part of the game is all of us getting mad when that contract inevitably ends up looking dumb, (unless you’re Bama and Saban) but I’m not sure what the alternative is. Quote
Stuhoo Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 All because there is SO SO much money at stake. MemphisHoosier 1 Quote
Alford Bailey Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 Some schools can pay the big contracts and have no trouble finding buyout money when things go south. Others not so much. Quote
Rico Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said: Some schools can pay the big contracts and have no trouble finding buyout money when things go south. Others not so much. We need Mark Cuban to get involved. Quote
Stuhoo Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, Rico said: We need Mark Cuban to get involved. Will not happen for IU football Quote
Rico Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: Will not happen for IU football Well, sum beach. Jim Irsay? Stuhoo 1 Quote
Stuhoo Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, Rico said: Well, sum beach. Jim Irsay? No. Not for IU football. Three things: Kelly School Jacobs School IU Basketball. That. Is. It. Rico and BtownStrength 2 Quote
Hovadipo Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 https://www.forbes.com/profile/frederic-luddy/ Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stuhoo said: No. Not for IU football. Three things: Kelly School Jacobs School IU Basketball. That. Is. It. Im not convinced we are truly behind IUBB either. Nil above Market value for 3 to 4 seasons. Get the winning on the level as the Blue Bloods. Boom, become a Blue Blood again. 3 recruits a year. We paid over a million a year years ago on recruiting budget to often times get middling results. We have the wrong people making decisions. There are ways to get it done. If we can’t compete in the NIL market (we can) then overseas players probably the next best option. Archie tried the Indiana approach. Painter relies heavily on that and wins. Woodson has been really picky within the state. Which I’m good with. Get 3 studs a year. That’s the ticket. Jury will decide soon if “clean” option let us compete in the national stage. Edited October 23, 2022 by WayneFleekHoosier Quote
Popular Post Hoosierfan2017 Posted October 23, 2022 Author Popular Post Posted October 23, 2022 Billionaires don’t become billionaires by wasting money on hopeless endeavors like iufb lol. bird4par, MemphisHoosier, FWHoosier84 and 7 others 9 1 Quote
cthomas Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 54 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: Billionaires don’t become billionaires by wasting money on hopeless endeavors like iufb lol. Truer words were never spoken. Quote
Stuhoo Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: Billionaires don’t become billionaires by wasting money on hopeless endeavors like iufb lol. Exactly. Kelley School, Jacob’s School, IUBB. Quote
Stuhoo Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said: Isn't the B1G network air-dropping pallets of cash on each member school every day? Not being snarky, I guess my question is how can IU not have enough money? On the one hand "we have to have all the schools in our conference for the TV $$'s!" on the other "we're too poor to buy out our coach." Is Dolson using it all on hookers and coke? Yes. Hookers and coke. Louisville is eyeing him. cthomas and Hardwood83 2 Quote
Alford Bailey Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 20 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said: Isn't the B1G network air-dropping pallets of cash on each member school every day? Not being snarky, I guess my question is how can IU not have enough money? On the one hand "we have to have all the schools in our conference for the TV $$'s!" on the other "we're too poor to buy out our coach." Is Dolson using it all on hookers and coke? Dunno but we should be getting enough money to have Purdue or NW level success cthomas and Hardwood83 2 Quote
cthomas Posted October 23, 2022 Posted October 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said: Dunno but we should be getting enough money to have Purdue or NW level success Agree 100% with this. Maybe we can't be top 4 or5 in the conference, but there are plenty of programs that we should be able to be better than. I've never understood how Northwestern with their academic standards could possibly be better than us in football. Doesn't seem possible and yet it is. WayneFleekHoosier 1 Quote
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