They Fired Tom Allen!

[Hovadipo]

Just now, Chris007 said:

Yes you are correct. Thank you. I read somewhere that some of those people that Allen worked with at Ole Miss are on the staff at Liberty right now. So maybe a small connection there. 

Half of his IU staff has Ole Miss connections and I’m sure a ton of Liberty’s staff has them too. Those guys pretty much all stuck together even with how ugly the Freeze thing ended. 

[LamarCheeks]

One story I read said CTA had worked for Freeze at three of his stops -- Lambuth, Arkansas and Mississippi. 

But I have no friggin' clue how that connects Allen to Liberty. 

Liberty prints money, so maybe if they offer him $6-7M a year, he might consider it -- but I don't see that happening. Especially coming off two-win and four-win seasons.

As it is, he's making $5M a year at a B1G school in his home state. He ain't gonna give that up. 

[Chris007]

1 minute ago, LamarCheeks said:

One story I read said Allen had worked for Freeze at three of his stops -- Lambuth, Arkansas and  Mississippi. 

But I have no friggin' clue how that connects Allen to Liberty. 

Liberty prints money, so maybe if they offer him $6-7M a year, he might consider it -- but I don't see that happening. Especially coming off two-win and four-win seasons.

As it is, he's making $5M a year at a B1G school in his home state. He ain't gonna give that up. 

But for how much longer? 2 years at most. He could go there and sign a 6-8 year contract making 4-5 million. 

[LamarCheeks]

13 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

But for how much longer? 2 years at most. He could go there and sign a 6-8 year contract making 4-5 million. 

I suppose so. But the dude already has probably made over $30M, and if he were to get fired in a year or two, would make his salary (another $5M to $10M) plus $7M to $15M or so in buyouts. If he's having health issues like you've indicated, I can just see him doing that -- then riding off into the sunset with even more major jingle in his pocket. 

[JSHoosier]

20 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Shhhhh…

Liberty may be reading 

To be fair, a title of "Fire Tom Allen" may be a giveaway on how the fanbase feels about him.

[bigrod]

1 hour ago, JSHoosier said:

To be fair, a title of "Fire Tom Allen" may be a giveaway on how the fanbase feels about him.

Hey, we're just a bunch of irrational fans who don't know anything about coaching.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

1 hour ago, JSHoosier said:

To be fair, a title of "Fire Tom Allen" may be a giveaway on how the fanbase feels about him.

Damn auto correct.  Supposed to be Hire

[IU Scott]

3 hours ago, Chris007 said:

I think there are a few things in play here. I do think there is smoke in the air about Liberty's interest in Allen. He was an assistant there, they can offer more money and more guaranteed years. He has to know the writing is on the wall here.

I think IU is not going to do anything to Allen because of the buyout right now. I think the MSU win helped, I think how we were playing early against Purdue helped and no one is donating 25 million. But I do think the administration has some things to announce as far as facility upgrades and things like that whenever Allen is gone and the new coach arrives. 

Just my two cents

What does the last sentence mean, we won't do any upgrades as long as Allen is here

[Chris007]

1 hour ago, IU Scott said:

What does the last sentence mean, we won't do any upgrades as long as Allen is here

From what I understand the decision makers don’t think Allen is the guy but don’t want to pay the buyout. But have some money set aside or have a donor ready to donate so the new coach starts off with a bang. I’m not sure I fully understand it myself.

[GoIU8]

1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

From what I understand the decision makers don’t think Allen is the guy but don’t want to pay the buyout. But have some money set aside or have a donor ready to donate so the new coach starts off with a bang. I’m not sure I fully understand it myself.

So everyone is just standing pat until Allen is gone before fully committing to the football program. Not the worst idea, if you can go all out and get somebody good to take the next step.

[cthomas]

24 minutes ago, GoIU8 said:

So everyone is just standing pat until Allen is gone before fully committing to the football program. Not the worst idea, if you can go all out and get somebody good to take the next step.

I don't think the program is exactly at rock bottom, but I think we can see it from here.

[Hovadipo]

2 minutes ago, cthomas said:

I don't think the program is exactly at rock bottom, but I think we can see it from here.

Sitting on our hands until the buyout hits the bargain bin will have us crash landing into rock bottom. That’s sooooo easy to recruit against.

[IU Scott]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

From what I understand the decision makers don’t think Allen is the guy but don’t want to pay the buyout. But have some money set aside or have a donor ready to donate so the new coach starts off with a bang. I’m not sure I fully understand it myself.

For NIL as well, if that is the case just pull the band aid off and start over now.

[Alford Bailey]

You have to hope decent options are available when the time comes even if we are ready to spend some money. See Auburn.

[Chris007]

11 hours ago, IU Scott said:

For NIL as well, if that is the case just pull the band aid off and start over now.

I think we will have a couple of million in NIL for next year

[JSHoosier]

With that buyout maybe it'd be cheaper to pay another program to take him?  We'd probably have to anyway if we can't just fire him.

[Lebowski]

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

I think we will have a couple of million in NIL for next year

That's not a lot. IUFB will always be the bottom of the conference with money like this. It's like Evansville Thunderbolts money trying to compete against Nashville Predators money. And if/when CTA is no longer with IUFB good luck finding a quality coach accepting a job here with money like this. 

[Alford Bailey]

Imagine having a job that’s sets you up for life financially with zero expectations or worries you could be fired. I think Allen is perfectly happy here right now.

[Chris007]

56 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

That's not a lot. IUFB will always be the bottom of the conference with money like this. It's like Evansville Thunderbolts money trying to compete against Nashville Predators money. And if/when CTA is no longer with IUFB good luck finding a quality coach accepting a job here with money like this. 

Agreed but I think Allen said we only had 150K this year. OSU, UM, PSU all try to raise 13 million in NIL, we need to be up to 5-6 IMO

[Banksyrules]

Question. What if we focus all of the NIL money for football (needs to be more) on just getting the best lineman? That’s half the game right there no?