They Fired Tom Allen!

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

3 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

You obviously aren't reading their resumes and when they were coaching here.

I honestly think if IUFB was currently ranked 1 and undefeated you would find something wrong with the coach. Lol.  

Their resumes at Indiana? Sweet. They had a good year in 2020.. what happened in 2021? I guess forget the complete implosion of the program right? Peoples was only at Indiana for 20 and 21. Jones here for 20, 21, 22. McCullough there for 21. Hart was there from 2017-2020. By far the best assistant Allen has had outside of DeBoer and Wommack. Then if you want.. can't forget Darren Hiller, Nick Sheridan, Charlton Warren, Walt Bell. Allen hasn't had success overall with assistants. Period. Allen is a god awful coach in every aspect of the game.

[jefftheref]

1 hour ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Their resumes at Indiana? Sweet. They had a good year in 2020.. what happened in 2021? I guess forget the complete implosion of the program right? Peoples was only at Indiana for 20 and 21. Jones here for 20, 21, 22. McCullough there for 21. Hart was there from 2017-2020. By far the best assistant Allen has had outside of DeBoer and Wommack. Then if you want.. can't forget Darren Hiller, Nick Sheridan, Charlton Warren, Walt Bell. Allen hasn't had success overall with assistants. Period. Allen is a god awful coach in every aspect of the game.

Totally agree with this and he can't be gone soon enough! I can't stand his antics on the sideline and the results verify that he is totally incompetent. Terrible coaching, terrible hires, and terrible won/loss record.

I want the Hoosiers to win but, I would rather they would lose out to guarantee Alllen is sent packing. 

[Rico]

If IU wins out(including a bowl game), I MIGHT change my tune on CTA a tad.  I hope(and pray) that we do win 'em all so that I am put in that position

[bigrod]

13 hours ago, Rico said:

If IU wins out(including a bowl game), I MIGHT change my tune on CTA a tad.  I hope(and pray) that we do win 'em all so that I am put in that position

I wish I didn't feel this way, but it would be nice if he had the vision to make the necessary changes BEFORE his back was against the wall. I'll believe last Saturday wasn't a fluke if they don't crap the bed this week. He hasn't given anyone any reason to believe he can sustain success.

[OGIUAndy]

2 hours ago, bigrod said:

I wish I didn't feel this way, but it would be nice if he had the vision to make the necessary changes BEFORE his back was against the wall. I'll believe last Saturday wasn't a fluke if they don't crap the bed this week. He hasn't given anyone any reason to believe he can sustain success.

Therein lies the overall problem. We've looked good a couple of weeks against good to not so good teams, but against other "good" or "not so good" teams we were not competitive for more than a quarter. How do they compete on the road a against a top ten team but get destroyed at home by other average to below average programs?  It's hard to pinpoint besides CTA since he's the lead guy. I guess just the number of new players we brought in? But that seems to be the way it's going to be every year, so if that's an issue, they need to figure out how to get everyone on the same page a lot quicker. I understand what CTA brought to the program, but consistency or "optimism" hasn't been here for 3 seasons. We're always 3-6 or worse with our backs against the wall, never .500 with a reasonable chance to go to a bowl game without having to "win out". But if he wins out I will be the first to come here and kiss his arse. It's very doable, none of the teams left have a powerhouse offense so we should be able to actually win a game or two, I would be amazed if we won two games on the road. 

[Lebowski]

3 hours ago, OGIUAndy said:

Therein lies the overall problem. We've looked good a couple of weeks against good to not so good teams, but against other "good" or "not so good" teams we were not competitive for more than a quarter. How do they compete on the road a against a top ten team but get destroyed at home by other average to below average programs?  It's hard to pinpoint besides CTA since he's the lead guy. I guess just the number of new players we brought in? But that seems to be the way it's going to be every year, so if that's an issue, they need to figure out how to get everyone on the same page a lot quicker. I understand what CTA brought to the program, but consistency or "optimism" hasn't been here for 3 seasons. We're always 3-6 or worse with our backs against the wall, never .500 with a reasonable chance to go to a bowl game without having to "win out". But if he wins out I will be the first to come here and kiss his arse. It's very doable, none of the teams left have a powerhouse offense so we should be able to actually win a game or two, I would be amazed if we won two games on the road. 

You have literally just described the entire 136 year history of IUFB. Lol.

Aside from the gauntlet first half of the schedule, letting go of Bell and making a hard decision on the starting QB might have been the change that started the upward swing. We'll so though, we're talking about IUFB here. 

[OGIUAndy]

2 hours ago, Lebowski said:

You have literally just described the entire 136 year history of IUFB. Lol.

Aside from the gauntlet first half of the schedule, letting go of Bell and making a hard decision on the starting QB might have been the change that started the upward swing. We'll so though, we're talking about IUFB here. 

Yes I have. It's exhausting but yet here I am, still a fan and rooting on the team through the thick and the mostly thin. If CTA pulls out the last three, that would be pretty amazing considering what has transpired this season. I just don't see it, but take one game at a time. So ILL first and foremost. Do whatever you have to do to pull that one out. 

[Lebowski]

10 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said:

Yes I have. It's exhausting but yet here I am, still a fan and rooting on the team through the thick and the mostly thin. If CTA pulls out the last three, that would be pretty amazing considering what has transpired this season. I just don't see it, but take one game at a time. So ILL first and foremost. Do whatever you have to do to pull that one out. 

I feel your pain. LOL! Go Hoosiers!

[maharkn]

Ball needs to go to mcculley every time

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[maharkn]

My grandma has no arms or legs and could have made a better throw

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[Hovadipo]

17 minutes ago, maharkn said:

My grandma has no arms or legs and could have made a better throw

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Bet your grandma couldn’t have led the game-tying drive. 

[spe317]

Just now, Hovadipo said:

Bet your grandma couldn’t have led the game-tying drive. 

My grandma could have gone on a game(deer) hitting drive though. 

[Stuhoo]

[WayneFleekHoosier]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

Honestly hard to be excited. The program has no support and Tom Allen gives 100% to do everything possible for the program.  
 

It’s all just sad to me. Maybe we hit the lottery with the next hire but with our resources and dedication to football there isn’t much hope even with a new hire imo.  

[hoopsta007]

6 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Honestly hard to be excited. The program has no support and Tom Allen gives 100% to do everything possible for the program.  
 

It’s all just sad to me. Maybe we hit the lottery with the next hire but with our resources and dedication to football there isn’t much hope even with a new hire imo.  

I agree it is sad but at least a new coach would be a chance for optimism.  Losing games we should win to teams that aren’t very good is the team mantra and it’s time for a new voice.  

[monskisprodigy]

I know it’s $20mil…but can Dolson afford to keep him?

The apathy entering next season will be at an all time high. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

1 minute ago, hoopsta007 said:

I agree it is sad but at least a new coach would be a chance for optimism.  Losing games we should win to teams that aren’t very good is the team mantra and it’s time for a new voice.  

Agree but it’s not like basketball where we might actually try to be something special.  It’s rarely just the coach at Indiana, it’s the system.  Every coach fails.  Why would we expect anyone else to get different results unless something bigger than the coach gets changed. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

Thank you Illinois for (hopefully) saving us from another year with this goofball. 500 yards and 4 tds from a backup qb. Fitting end for Tom Allen and his vaunted defense. 

[Scotty R]

5 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Thank you Illinois for (hopefully) saving us from another year with this goofball. 500 yards and 4 tds from a backup qb. Fitting end for Tom Allen and his vaunted defense. 

Yes he was a backup this year but he had started a lot more games than Sorsby has

[Hoosierfan2017]

6 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Yes he was a backup this year but he had started a lot more games than Sorsby has

He’s a sixth year senior who started one year at… Ball State. They went 5-7 and he threw 18 tds to 14 ints. Appeared in 5 games over the other 4 seasons. IU just got torched by a mediocre MAC qb.