They Fired Tom Allen!

[LamarCheeks]

Intriguing look at things ... 

I think Tom Brew is a bit of a hack, but these observations are kinda interesting. 

According to this, Bell was enamored of Bazelak from the get-go. And CTA left the call to him. Players wanted Tuttle and apparently, Tuttle was better in practice. This piece also claims what many have said here -- Hiller should've been fired long before he was. 

At the start of yesterday's broadcast, CTA was in front of the team -- going on one if his "inspirational" rants. To me, it just looked as if the players were very uninterested. That rah-rah stuff gets real old, real quick when you're not winning and the team is in turmoil. 

Just a couple years ago, we seemed poised to become a top 25 program. Now, we seem poised to just be a hot mess. 

LEO. 

https://www.si.com/college/indiana/football/tom-brew-my-two-cents-indiana-brutal-football-season-over-so-does-player-exodus-begin?fbclid=IwAR1xUDCNsa4sUO8pz5i_mWTBAIapw1kSVUcM9pIUwMZs-CLphKbzS5mHLGA

 

 

[IU Scott]

3 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

Intriguing look at things ... 

I think Tom Brew is a bit of a hack, but these observations are kinda interesting. 

According to this, Bell was enamored of Bazelak from the get-go. And CTA left the call to him. Players wanted Tuttle and apparently, Tuttle was better in practice. This piece also claims what many have said here -- Hiller should've been fired long before he was. 

At the start of yesterday's broadcast, CTA was in front of the team -- going on one if his "inspirational" rants. To me, it just looked as if the players were very uninterested. That rah-rah stuff gets real old, real quick when you're not winning and the team is in turmoil. 

Just a couple years ago, we seemed poised to become a top 25 program. Now, we seem poised to just be a hot mess. 

LEO. 

https://www.si.com/college/indiana/football/tom-brew-my-two-cents-indiana-brutal-football-season-over-so-does-player-exodus-begin?fbclid=IwAR1xUDCNsa4sUO8pz5i_mWTBAIapw1kSVUcM9pIUwMZs-CLphKbzS5mHLGA

 

 

The players sure didn't sound fired up after the speech like they were in 2019-20

[HoosierX]

6 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

Intriguing look at things ... 

I think Tom Brew is a bit of a hack, but these observations are kinda interesting. 

According to this, Bell was enamored of Bazelak from the get-go. And CTA left the call to him. Players wanted Tuttle and apparently, Tuttle was better in practice. This piece also claims what many have said here -- Hiller should've been fired long before he was. 

At the start of yesterday's broadcast, CTA was in front of the team -- going on one if his "inspirational" rants. To me, it just looked as if the players were very uninterested. That rah-rah stuff gets real old, real quick when you're not winning and the team is in turmoil. 

Just a couple years ago, we seemed poised to become a top 25 program. Now, we seem poised to just be a hot mess. 

LEO. 

https://www.si.com/college/indiana/football/tom-brew-my-two-cents-indiana-brutal-football-season-over-so-does-player-exodus-begin?fbclid=IwAR1xUDCNsa4sUO8pz5i_mWTBAIapw1kSVUcM9pIUwMZs-CLphKbzS5mHLGA

 

 

Not to pat myself on the back, but I could dig up my post from a few years back that LEO would get old really fast if we stopped winning.

I also feel like there are very few ADs at big-time schools that that would have staked their job on the LEO culture and why the huge extension wasn’t totally necessary.

No one will be writing articles about LEO this off-season.

[monskisprodigy]

12 hours ago, IU Scott said:

The players sure didn't sound fired up after the speech like they were in 2019-20

I commented in the game thread right after they showed the "speech"...it was truly uncomfortable to watch. Players weren't doing the normal "YEAH", "THIS IS OUR HOUSE" rah rah type of stuff during the speech. It was just him, the camera, and a dead/stale awkwardness. When he was done, it was pretty quiet, and the camera cut away haha. 

[Hovadipo]

4 minutes ago, monskisprodigy said:

I commented in the game thread right after they showed the "speech"...it was truly uncomfortable to watch. Players weren't doing the normal "YEAH", "THIS IS OUR HOUSE" rah rah type of stuff during the speech. It was just him, the camera, and a dead/stale awkwardness. When he was done, it was pretty quiet, and the camera cut away haha. 

Honestly, this is kind of how they’ve always been. Way too long, not very exciting, and the same recycled material. Postgame win celebrations were always hype, but his pregame sermons have always sucked. 

[OGIUAndy]

10 hours ago, HoosierX said:

Not to pat myself on the back, but I could dig up my post from a few years back that LEO would get old really fast if we stopped winning.

I also feel like there are very few ADs at big-time schools that that would have staked their job on the LEO culture and why the huge extension wasn’t totally necessary.

No one will be writing articles about LEO this off-season.

Not to not pat you on the back, but I don't think you're the only person who thinks or has thought this. I would actually guess a majority of people thought this would get old quickly. The rah rah stuff only works in spurts hence why it's not a great motivator or coaching style long term or honestly, for adults. 

[bigrod]

15 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said:

Not to not pat you on the back, but I don't think you're the only person who thinks or has thought this. I would actually guess a majority of people thought this would get old quickly. The rah rah stuff only works in spurts hence why it's not a great motivator or coaching style long term or honestly, for adults. 

Did you happen to see his interview at half-time? Honestly, I thought it was kind of embarrassing. The guys in the studio were basically laughing at the way he was speaking. Someone else on here described him as manic, and I think its fitting.

[Alford Bailey]

1 hour ago, bigrod said:

Did you happen to see his interview at half-time? Honestly, I thought it was kind of embarrassing. The guys in the studio were basically laughing at the way he was speaking. Someone else on here described him as manic, and I think its fitting.

As goofy as Tom Crean without the big wins.

[IUFootballHappyHappyJoyJoy]

21 hours ago, KingPG21 said:

Yup

 

No idea what happened when I was typing

Late season football gives us brain damage the longer we are exposed to it.  That, or the liquor.

[Golfman25]

22 hours ago, KingPG21 said:

Some of you are out of touch if you think the spectacle these big schools make of game day doesn't matter to high school kids. It absolutely does. 

On the Bart Simpson scale of 1-10, how much does it matter?  
 

Once they get to school all the pomp and circumstance is more of a PIA taking focus of your game.  

[OGIUAndy]

3 hours ago, bigrod said:

Did you happen to see his interview at half-time? Honestly, I thought it was kind of embarrassing. The guys in the studio were basically laughing at the way he was speaking. Someone else on here described him as manic, and I think its fitting.

I didn't see it, but I heard about it. I am not a big fan of the overly emotionally stuff because I also think it leads to bad decision making (who to play, what coaches to retain, who to recruit). 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

1 hour ago, Golfman25 said:

On the Bart Simpson scale of 1-10, how much does it matter?  
 

Once they get to school all the pomp and circumstance is more of a PIA taking focus of your game.  

Uhhhh... At least a 7. If you think a crappy and boring atmosphere where you can tell no one cares is going to get a recruit... You're out of touch. Outside of winning, places like Michigan, Ohio State, Bama, Georgia, Tennessee, USC, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Texas etc... It is an event to go to a football game. The show around the show. Indiana's GameDay experience? Boring as hell. Like... It is pathetic. Like oh snap... Couple fog machines, a big rock and seven nation army playing... Oozing excitement. 

[LIHoosier]

Wait, you mean throwing every schools tradition against the wall at the same time and seeing what sticks isn't an ideal strategy?

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[Hoosierfan2017]

The only real IUFB game day tradition is tailgating beforehand and never actually making it inside the football stadium. 

[Hoosierfan1901]

 

[KzooHoosier82]

4 hours ago, Hoosierfan1901 said:

 

IU Football wouldn’t be IU Football if we had the kinda luck that would result in CTA leaving willingly to Liberty

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

3 minutes ago, KzooHoosier82 said:

IU Football wouldn’t be IU Football if we had the kinda luck that would result in CTA leaving willingly to Liberty

No one will be mentioning Tom Allen's name to take over anywhere.... Except Indiana fans lol. 

[iubb]

So what names could get in the mix?

Liberty is expected to make swings at some active head coaches, due to its resources. Coastal Carolina head coach Jamey Chadwell hasn’t been able to get Power 5 bites, despite his massive success at Coastal, opening the possibility of other Group of 5 jobs that pay a lot more, like USF. (And unlike USF, Liberty has won recently.) Chadwell is 31-5 over the past three years at Coastal, and he’s won everywhere he’s been. He was the lowest-paid FBS head coach before the breakout season in 2020, later doubling his salary to more than $1 million. Liberty can offer him a lot more. But would leaving the Sun Belt for Conference USA be a step up? Liberty could also make a push for other Sun Belt names like Georgia Southern head coach Clay Helton and James Madison head coach Curt Cignetti.

Indiana head coach Tom Allen has had a rough two years since the breakout season of 2020. After a top-15 finish that year, the Hoosiers have gone 2-10 and 4-8 in the past two seasons, including 2-16 in Big Ten play. Could a break be beneficial for both sides? His buyout is massive, at $20 million if Indiana wanted to fire him even after the 2023 season. But the buyout on Allen’s end to leave drops to $4 million on Dec. 1, which is plenty manageable. His salary is right around $5 million, something we know Liberty could pay, as it did for Freeze. Allen and Freeze also go back more than a decade together. Of course, leaving a Big Ten job for a Conference USA job would be basically unprecedented, but multiple industry sources have mentioned Allen’s name as one to potentially watch.

https://theathletic.com/3948746/2022/11/29/liberty-football-coach-candidates-freeze-auburn/


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[Lebowski]

I'd be shocked if Allen leaves for Liberty. And dumbfounded if Liberty offered the job to Allen. 

[IUFootballHappyHappyJoyJoy]

14 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

I'd be shocked if Allen leaves for Liberty. And dumbfounded if Liberty offered the job to Allen. 

We should be cheering for Tom Allen to leave for Liberty.  It would save us a lot of money.