IU Basketball News and Notes

[Home Jersey]

Basketball may be good, even great, again under DDV. 

But will they be so great they outshine IUFB, about to go 2/2 on CFP appearances under Cig?

Very possibly the first undefeated season... Stadium renovations/expansion being talked about more and more. 

For the AD to grow, football needs to succeed. It's more important than bball success, flat out. 

I wonder how often they will talk about the football team during basketball games this year. Plenty probably. 

Won't be surprised if they talk about basketball less and less during football games unless we turn it around fast. 

Totally fine by me... and I'd bet Cig too. Changing the way people think around here and what not. 

I prefer basketball to football on a personal level. But IUFB is way more fun to root for and follow right now. 

I buy that IUBB is a sleeping giant.

But I don't think it's going to overtake the momentum football has built without huge, nearly immediate success. 

1. Historically a basketball school.
2. Currently a football school.
3. Potentially an "everything" school if IUBB gets it figured out. 

If the basketball program starts to wake up, this is a good "problem" to have. And money will flow. 

[Home Jersey]

41 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

That’s the point. Cig and Dev won’t be battling for resources, not happening. It’s so easy to wallow in the wake of Miller/Woodson, but that era is over.

How do you figure Cig and DDV won't be "battling for resources" ?

I think every coach in every sport at every school is battling for resources within their department. 

And given the player payroll for football and basketball... with a finite amount of money... choices will need to be made. 

This is not wallowing in the wake of Miller/Woodson but acknowledging a reality IMO. 

Some would say that we were not the highest bidder for our 3 top HS targets, the battle for resources has a clear winner already.

Hopefully DDV can bring the success we all want to see for IUBB. 

[Pagoda]

As an aside on this FB vs BB topic, I'd hate to be an athletic director.  You got to:

• Manage all these programs that all want more resources, especially in this rev share/NIL era
• Keep the donors giving, and my goodness do we have some pain in the @$$ donors lol
• Get money from the university/BoT (thankfully our President is into sports)
• Deal with the fans, and there will always be some angry fans 
• Get coaching hires right
• Manage the operations of the athletic dept
• Deal with periodic PR issues
• Do the politics thing within the conference and broader college sports landscape to advance IU's interests

When an AD does well they don't get much credit, and when something goes wrong people get mad as hell at them.  ADs do get paid a lot, but it's a tough gig.

[jermhoosierfan]

CDD doing his pregame media stuff before tonight's game.  He mentioned a "motion offense" in the first minute, and I am like, "Finally!!!".

[TheWatShot]

Motion offense?! Be still, my heart. Need to see it before I get too excited, though. 

[str8baller]

5 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

Still leading the B1G in attendance the last couple years and top 6 nationally despite being a middle of the pack B1G team on the court and no tournament success shows me  IU is still a basketball  school. Either way,  call it a football school or basketball school but the outside perception will be IU is a basketball school.   During their football games, announcers go out of their way to bring up the basketball history.  For me IU will always be a basketball school first (shocker I know) 

The attendance thing is a good point, even though due to stadium size there’s only a couple schools that can possibly claim the top spot. In any event, we have amazing fans. Both loyal and patient. It’s why it always irks me when one of these coaches goes south that some contingent of the athletic department, coaching community, or blindly loyal fans blames the fan base.  It’s nonsense. 
 

With that said, I was kind of thinking more along the lines of what we’ve been, where we’re at, and where we’re going. At some level people will always associate IU and the state of Indiana with basketball. But looking at the money IU and its donors are pouring in on Cig and the football program and you have to at least raise the question. That’s not happening at Duke, UK, Uconn and Kansas. 
 

I’m not sure where that leaves IU. But another failed coach and 4-8 years lost in the wilderness for IU basketball while Cig goes to a couple more playoffs (or wins a title) and all the nostalgia in the world won’t matter. The balance of power will be firmly with the football program. Everyone inside and outside will recognize it. And I’m in your camp—as far as sports go IU basketball will always be my first choice. 

[str8baller]

4 hours ago, HoosierHoopster said:

the program was in good shape it just wasn’t consistently at the level where it could contend at a FF level team so the U canned Crean in favor of a terrible coach in Miller, mistake #1

This would be exhibit #1 in my case against current day IU basketball. 
 

Most, including donors, were ready for Crean to go because he hadn’t lived up to expectations. That people now look back on his tenure well enough to say his firing was a mistake shows how far things have fallen. Davis and Sampson had flashes too…twenty years ago.  
 

The standard at other basketball schools, with whom we wish to be considered peers, is roughly: be in the tourney every year, be able to make a run every few years, actually win a title (or damn close) every decade-ish, and be the best in your conference.  
 

IU hasn’t been there since the early 90’s. Pretty much nobody expects that out of IU. We’re basketball schools like Purdue and NC State are basketball schools where a strong football season relegates you to the backburner until January.  
 

Devries probably takes over a program with the lowest expectations since a young Bob Knight was hired. When Knight was hired IU hadn’t won a title in 18 years (our current FF drought is longer than that now).  Hopefully the lack of pressure will allow Devries to put down a solid foundation and ultimately succeed. 

[HoosierHoopster]

4 hours ago, Home Jersey said:

Basketball may be good, even great, again under DDV. 

But will they be so great they outshine IUFB, about to go 2/2 on CFP appearances under Cig?

Very possibly the first undefeated season... Stadium renovations/expansion being talked about more and more. 

For the AD to grow, football needs to succeed. It's more important than bball success, flat out. 

I wonder how often they will talk about the football team during basketball games this year. Plenty probably. 

Won't be surprised if they talk about basketball less and less during football games unless we turn it around fast. 

Totally fine by me... and I'd bet Cig too. Changing the way people think around here and what not. 

I prefer basketball to football on a personal level. But IUFB is way more fun to root for and follow right now. 

I buy that IUBB is a sleeping giant.

But I don't think it's going to overtake the momentum football has built without huge, nearly immediate success. 

1. Historically a basketball school.
2. Currently a football school.
3. Potentially an "everything" school if IUBB gets it figured out. 

If the basketball program starts to wake up, this is a good "problem" to have. And money will flow. 

Thing is, you're making assumptions based on the immediate now -- less than 2 seasons of football under Cig. 

FWIW, actual football schools (e.g., Texas) are critiquing IU now as #2 based on an overall weak schedule -- and that's pretty fair. We beat Oregon at Oregon, excellent W, and you can only play the schools on the schedule, but we haven't gone undefeated yet, we haven't yet faced OSU, the schedule has been pretty kind, and that's just this season anyway,. Very possibly the first undefeated season? Yes, possible, no it hasn't happened yet, and just one year anyway.

Football is more important than basketball success, flat out? Your opinion, certainly not mine, and no the AD certainly hasn't intimated that or anything close to it. Football is bigger revenue, that's always been the case, that doesn't mean suddenly IU is turning to football over basketball. It / the AD the administration just fired Woodson, so IU can return to being a strong bball program. That's fact. If it no longer cared so much about bball we could still have mediocre Mike - what an awful thought, lol.

Won't be surprised that they talk about basketball less during football games? Well, why wouldn't the school talk less about basketball during a football game. That doesn't mean anything. You and I agree on many things, on this topic we don't. My opinions are just my opinions, and I always enjoy your posts, so hope I'm not somehow conveying otherwise in the way I'm posting, but there's just no reason, imo, to think IU suddenly cares less about bball.

I think your preference to football on a personal level is driving your expectations. And the inverse of that is probably true of me.

Regardless, very much agree that if (when) the bball program starts to wake (I think that's happened already) this is a good problem to have. Let's be dominant in football and bball. Why not?

[HoosierHoopster]

3 minutes ago, str8baller said:

This would be exhibit #1 in my case against current day IU basketball. 
 

Most, including donors, were ready for Crean to go because he hadn’t lived up to expectations. That people now look back on his tenure well enough to say his firing was a mistake shows how far things have fallen. Davis and Sampson had flashes too…twenty years ago.  
 

The standard at other basketball schools, with whom we wish to be considered peers, is roughly: be in the tourney every year, be able to make a run every few years, actually win a title (or damn close) every decade-ish, and be the best in your conference.  
 

IU hasn’t been there since the early 90’s. Pretty much nobody expects that out of IU. We’re basketball schools like Purdue and NC State are basketball schools where a strong football season relegates you to the backburner until January.  
 

Devries probably takes over a program with the lowest expectations since a young Bob Knight was hired. When Knight was hired IU hadn’t won a title in 18 years (our current FF drought is longer than that now).  Hopefully the lack of pressure will allow Devries to put down a solid foundation and ultimately succeed. 

No -- I didn't say firing Crean was a mistake, I said hiring Miller was mistake #1. Again, pounding the dead horse that keeps getting ignored, with the right coach there's no reason to believe IU won't rise up again, none. "Exhibit No. 1" would be Sampson, picking up the pieces from Davis' decline after getting to the championship in 2000 with RMK's players. That Crean was able to accomplish the level of success he had -- and I don't care how you want to dice it, it was pretty good -- despite being just an OK coach, should be your Exhibit No. 3, but you flip the script. We see this all differently, that's OK.

[str8baller]

3 hours ago, HoosierHoopster said:

with the right coach there's no reason to believe IU won't rise up again, none.

Well yea…that’s any program in any sport anywhere. We don’t need to extrapolate out failed experiments in Crean and Sampson. Cig and IU football prove that. 
 

It doesn’t make IU special. If anything we’re the opposite of whatever “special “ is since most programs can find that hire through sheer luck over 3 decades. But IU on the other hand…
 

We all are hoping Devries is the one to turn that around, of course. 

[Pudman]

One thing I love about this year’s team so far is the camaraderie. The whole team has shown up for the last two IUWBB games, not only that, they sit together, they joke around, and they just seem to have fun and so care for one another. Sisley hanging next to Enright and Tucker too is awesome. They left yesterday at the start of the 4th quarter, except for Conerway and Wilkerson. Those two stayed the whole game. The first game those two were goofing and laughing a lot together and dancing too. The whole team was interacting also with the fans around them. Just great to see and great ambassadors of the program to start the season.

[AZ Hoosier]

1 hour ago, str8baller said:

Well yea…that’s any program in any sport anywhere. We don’t need to extrapolate out failed experiments in Crean and Sampson. Cig and IU football prove that. 
 
It doesn’t make IU special. If anything we’re the opposite of whatever “special “ is since most programs can find that hire through sheer luck over 3 decades. But IU on the other hand…
 
We all are hoping Devries is the one to turn that around, of course. 

Well, we had help. The call came from inside the house.

[LIHoosier]

New polls out; IU 3rd receiving votes in AP, 4th receiving votes Coaches...cowards

[HoosierHoopster]

On 11/5/2025 at 4:59 PM, str8baller said:

Well yea…that’s any program in any sport anywhere. We don’t need to extrapolate out failed experiments in Crean and Sampson. Cig and IU football prove that. 
 

It doesn’t make IU special. If anything we’re the opposite of whatever “special “ is since most programs can find that hire through sheer luck over 3 decades. But IU on the other hand…
 

We all are hoping Devries is the one to turn that around, of course. 

Any program in any sport anywhere?? Nope. Resources, foundation, facilities, general program recognition, media coverage/tv/web, recruiting base— connections to HS/AAU coaches/programs. Your perception of IU as the opposite of whatever special is, is crazy negative, couldn’t be less true. We’ve been run to ground by Miller and Woody, clearly. While you choose to deflect and ignore it, that Crean was able to do what he did - B1G championships and multiple SW16 runs despite being a mediocre coach is directly due to his “it’s Indiana” mantra. He rebuilt the program from nothing after Sampsongate into a successful program because of what IU is.
Now we have what I think is clearly a strong HC/basketball mind and staff again, and because of IU’s historical program stature, resources, facilities etc and all that comes with it, the path “back” is right there, not just “any” program anywhere. That’s not rose colored glasses, that’s reality 

[str8baller]

7 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Any program in any sport anywhere?? Nope. Resources, foundation, facilities, general program recognition, media coverage/tv/web, recruiting base— connections to HS/AAU coaches/programs.

None of that matters without the right coach. As we’ve proved for two decades now

[Stuhoo]

Field of 68 Goodman and Dauster post-win show. Most of this video is an on-air with Lamar. Our SG is one hell of a smooth, funny, guy. Great interview!

https://youtu.be/erEZe87ZYO0?si=vVagkmTA8mhbYFUg

[WayneFleekHoosier]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

Field of 68 Goodman and Dauster post-win show. Most of this video is an on-air with Lamar. Our SG is one hell of a smooth, funny, guy. Great interview!

https://youtu.be/erEZe87ZYO0?si=vVagkmTA8mhbYFUg

Very likeable kid that is also fun to watch. Wish he had more time with him.  And several others for that matter. 

[coonhounds]

Very likeable kid that is also fun to watch. Wish he had more time with him.  And several others for that matter. 

I wish we had him and others longer however the success these kids have here will make it easier for coach to go out and get yhe kids he wants. So far I trust his judgment on who he wants and that is a good thing. I will be stoked to have a coach that I dont feel needs a top 5 kid to have success!

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[HoosierHoopster]

10 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

I wish we had him and others longer however the success these kids have here will make it easier for coach to go out and get yhe kids he wants. So far I trust his judgment on who he wants and that is a good thing. I will be stoked to have a coach that I dont feel needs a top 5 kid to have success!

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If you build it they will come

[NashvilleHoosier]

I take it the Louisville seat assignments haven't been released yet? I selfishly need a lot more and better options to be available on secondary sites, and I'm guessing anyone intending to sell doesn't yet know what seats they are selling. How far in advance were the Marquette seats assigned?