Dane Fife leaves IU staff

[IU Scott]

45 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Yes all depends on who comes back

So if Race and or Trace comes back then JG leaves

[Golfman25]

4 minutes ago, btownqb said:

You aren't getting it. As an Asst Coach if you do something you are flat out told NOT to do, you're leaving your job security up to chance. 

I understand that.  But it's a red flag on woody, imo.  

[hoosierbgh]

29 minutes ago, VO5 said:

And this is why Its not a real loss he’s gone. Go get a bag man Woody. If he never played at IU fans wouldn’t care but since he did it’s somehow a sky is falling scenario. Fans need to let go of the emotional ties and look at this through a clear lens. 

Sounds like a good plan... but I wouldn't hold my breath on that. 

Admittedly, I preferred Lewis over Fife originally, but bottom line is he didn't produce any noticeable benefit for the team and teams cannot afford to have an AC that doesn't provide something of major value. 

[RaceToTheTop]

1 hour ago, ap2345 said:

It was known that he butted heads with Izzo at times but Izzo didn’t want yes men. Woody I’m not so sure…

That said, his departure from Michigan State for IU seemed very strange.  He was leaving for another assistant job in the Big Ten.  Even if it's for his alma mater, a lateral move after ten years at the same place usually indicates some issues.

[Aaron]

1 minute ago, brumdog45 said:

That said, his departure from Michigan State for IU seemed very strange.  He was leaving for another assistant job in the Big Ten.  Even if it's for his alma mater, a lateral move after ten years at the same place usually indicates some issues.

As I have said I feel pretty good in saying he wore out his welcome at MSU and would not of been there much longer. Fife needs to look in the mirror.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

6 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

So if Race and or Trace comes back then JG leaves

I'd say TJD would have zero impact on Geronimo's decision unless both Race and Trayce returned. 

[RaceToTheTop]

48 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Myles Colven a Purdue recruit. Woodson told all juniors they had to visit campus before getting an offer, Fife went out the next day and offer Colvin who was already telling people he was going to Purdue like his dad. 

For the record, this isn't Chris just hearing information now to make the Fife firing look 'good' for IU.  A very bright poster had messaged me earlier in the year about there being a bad recruiting issue with him before the season started.

[cleeter]

I'd say TJD would have zero impact on Geronimo's decision unless both Race and Trayce returned. 

I agree. Assume that JG would/could play the 4. Never the 5. So if one of Race or Trayce come back, then it wouldn’t effect him at the 4. He’ll even if both came back, would Geronimo at the 3 be such a bad thing? Can’t be worse than Kopp right?


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[IU Scott]

Just now, cleeter said:

I agree. Assume that JG would/could play the 4. Never the 5. So if one of Race or Trayce come back, then it wouldn’t effect him at the 4. He’ll even if both came back, would Geronimo at the 3 be such a bad thing? Can’t be worse than Kopp right?


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If JG works on his ball handling he could play the 3

[HoosierTrav]

37 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

See I don't like ultimatums like that.  If the next "all world" recruit decides he'll only visit where he has offers, then what.  Gotta stay flexible.  

The head coach has to be the one who sets the standard operating procedures. John Beilein had similar standards. Worked out ok for him. You should be more concerned about insubordination from staff. Says more about Fife’s character by breaking the rule than it does Woody making the rule.

[CSP]

9 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

I understand that.  But it's a red flag on woody, imo.  

Its a much larger one for Dane, unfortunately, it was a reason it cost him his job. 

[Aaron]

Just now, btownqb said:

Its a much larger one for Dane, unfortunately, it was a reason it cost him his job. 

100% true. Woodson deserves a small part of the blame, but Fife most of it and needs re-evaluate how he handles himself in a job if he doesn't want to keep moving on every couple years. 

[RaceToTheTop]

46 minutes ago, NVFalcons1990 said:

What's Calbert Cheaney Doing???????

Cheaney has pretty much indicated previously he's not interested in recruiting.

[maharkn]

Wtf are you doing Woody… not a good look imo.


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I don't think it is. It's really hard to dee if he actually did anything. Ya and hunter did all of the recruiting, so what did he do that made this team better or to add to building this team up.



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[RaceToTheTop]

30 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Focusing on Rob’s defense is like focusing on Trayce’s dunking ability. Rob was already a good defender. Isn’t a coach there to improve a player’s weaknesses? If folks are going to say that Fife was a big help to the guards, it can’t be ignored when a player’s weaknesses get worse. 

What was strange was that Rob was basically effective when X was in the game with him, but not really when X was out.  

CBBanalytics:  With X and Phin on the court at the same time, IU was +20.2 per 100 possessions.  When just X was on the court, IU was +13.3.  When Phin was on the court but not X, IU was -8.2.

The problem was that size wise, there are lineups where you simply can't play them together.  For the year, they only played 172 minutes together.  

[WayneFleekHoosier]

I’m not all that shocked honestly.  I enjoyed Fife and his grit as a player. He’s around my age.  I thought he’d be an excellent assistant coach based on basketball knowledge/Izzo carryover and toughness.  I listened to a lot of his interviews with the Hoosier Hysterics guys and others and I thought he was very smug.  Dry sense of humor. I don’t mind that too much but I could see him butting heads with folks with that personality.  I wish him well and wished it could have worked out, but anything that makes Indiana basketball better, I’m here for.  
 

I want and assistant that can help Indiana land top talent.  Most important role as an assistant IMO.  

[RaceToTheTop]

12 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said:

The head coach has to be the one who sets the standard operating procedures. John Beilein had similar standards. Worked out ok for him. You should be more concerned about insubordination from staff. Says more about Fife’s character by breaking the rule than it does Woody making the rule.

Not only that, but the standard that Fife broke the rule for wasn't an all-world recruit (as Golfman mentioned), but rather 75th ranked player who lives in Indianapolis.  If a kid in Indianapolis isn't going to take an official visit to a place that's a stone's throw away AND his dad went to Purdue AND he's telling people that he is going to Purdue as well, then Fife is doing nothing more than trying to flex some artificial muscle he doesn't have by offering him.  That's not about improving the team, that's about disagreeing with your boss and being a Purdue Person about it.

[Alford Bailey]

Loved Fife as a player but don’t think we lost much here either.

[Uspshoosier]

Tea leaves were there all year.   Most has been covered so far but the moment when the Indiana recruiter got taken off the recruitment of an Indiana kid “Booker” As the lead recruiter then things were probably going to go down from there 

[Capt. Crimson]

Why is this “not a good look”?? 

The first cracks in the Archie administration was when we all saw him and Bruiser arguing on the sidelines.

He just fired a guy we all thought was going to be our next head coach after 1 year.

Certainly can’t say it looks like a good thing. Maybe it’s just me.


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